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"Jolly Bee"
Anyone know where I can get a guaranteed "Jolly bee" geranium? Don't
want Rozanne and seeing the two at Eyhtrope Garden tonight (a wonderful walled vegetable and flower garden done on old Victorian lines owned by the Rotschilds) I prefer the mounded Jolly bee to the more lower growing Rozanne. -- Janet Tweedy |
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"Jolly Bee"
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... Anyone know where I can get a guaranteed "Jolly bee" geranium? Don't want Rozanne and seeing the two at Eyhtrope Garden tonight (a wonderful walled vegetable and flower garden done on old Victorian lines owned by the Rotschilds) I prefer the mounded Jolly bee to the more lower growing Rozanne. -- Janet Tweedy Janet, I thought the recent court battle decided they were identical and came down in favour of Rozanne, Jolly Bee no longer being allowed (all to do with Plant Breeders Rights) -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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"Jolly Bee"
In article , Charlie Pridham
writes Janet, I thought the recent court battle decided they were identical and came down in favour of Rozanne, Jolly Bee no longer being allowed (all to do with Plant Breeders Rights) The plant breeder man that spoke at the recent HPS in Winslow said that he felt they were different in growing habit. Now, it may be that they are identical to all intents and purposes but last night four very experienced gardeners all said the same thing, Jolly bee makes a nice mound in growing and Rozanne is more straggly and low growing. Maybe it's like conifers that are prostrate. If you take a cutting from an upright bit you get an upright shrub if you take a cutting from the middle going sideways you get a prostrate shrub. I bow to scientists if they say it's the same - i only saw the difference visually and know what four different gardeners said from experience. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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"Jolly Bee"
In article , Sacha
writes Jolly Bee and Rozanne have been declared to be one and the same. You should have told me when you were here as we have Jolly Bee growing by the gate into the car park! But now we have to call it Rozanne. Well that rules out PBR and please may i have a little bit if it's forming a mound and not a carpet Wanted to get it for Judy one of whose dogs got run over in their long drive yesterday by the milkman, (the dog was lovely, inherited from an old aunt, she was a Guide dog originally but was now 14 and deaf) The poor dog got her leg banged and broken as she didn't hear the milk float reverse and she died en route to vets. As her name was Pebbles and there's very little that's named so. I thought a Jolly Bee plant might cheer Judy up as she's always wanted one. -- Janet Tweedy |
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"Jolly Bee"
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Sacha writes Jolly Bee and Rozanne have been declared to be one and the same. You should have told me when you were here as we have Jolly Bee growing by the gate into the car park! But now we have to call it Rozanne. Well that rules out PBR and please may i have a little bit if it's forming a mound and not a carpet Wanted to get it for Judy one of whose dogs got run over in their long drive yesterday by the milkman, (the dog was lovely, inherited from an old aunt, she was a Guide dog originally but was now 14 and deaf) The poor dog got her leg banged and broken as she didn't hear the milk float reverse and she died en route to vets. As her name was Pebbles and there's very little that's named so. I thought a Jolly Bee plant might cheer Judy up as she's always wanted one. I am so sorry for Judy I hope you manage to find what you need. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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"Jolly Bee"
"Janet Tweedy" wrote
Sacha writes Jolly Bee and Rozanne have been declared to be one and the same. You should have told me when you were here as we have Jolly Bee growing by the gate into the car park! But now we have to call it Rozanne. Well that rules out PBR and please may i have a little bit if it's forming a mound and not a carpet Wanted to get it for Judy one of whose dogs got run over in their long drive yesterday by the milkman, (the dog was lovely, inherited from an old aunt, she was a Guide dog originally but was now 14 and deaf) The poor dog got her leg banged and broken as she didn't hear the milk float reverse and she died en route to vets. As her name was Pebbles and there's very little that's named so. I thought a Jolly Bee plant might cheer Judy up as she's always wanted one. Don't know if she is into cacti but how about some Lithops, known as living stones or pebble plants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithops http://www.lithops.info/ -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"Jolly Bee"
"Sacha" wrote I've ask Ray for some, Janet and he'll see what can be done without killing the whole thing! It does spread but is mound forming, too, if that makes sense. Certainly, when Ray planted it, it was 'Jolly Bee'. This whole name/plant thing can get irritating. Ray has a variegated Bilbergia staring us in the face but Wisley told him it doesn't exist! Apparently, a couple of people have said that, in their opinion, Rosanne and Jolly Bee are entirely different plants, even though the flowers are so similar. As you say, one ismound forming and the other is straggly. Also, Jolly Bee seems to flower for much longer. I'm so sorry to hear of this, poor Judy. Do give her our warmest thoughts and best wishes. I have this plant which was bought as Rozanne (from Blooms GC iirc) and would also describe mine as a fairly vigorous, mounding spreader - like yours it seems to do both. It does flower for a long time, well into autumn, and the individual flowers are larger than e.g. Johnson's Blue and make a good show for months. It's confusing - Carol Klein once said Jolly Bee was in her opinion the better one, so she must have though there's a difference but now plant science has declared them the same, apparently. -- Sue |
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"Jolly Bee"
On 19/07/2012 12:05, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Sacha writes Jolly Bee and Rozanne have been declared to be one and the same. You should have told me when you were here as we have Jolly Bee growing by the gate into the car park! But now we have to call it Rozanne. Well that rules out PBR and please may i have a little bit if it's forming a mound and not a carpet Wanted to get it for Judy one of whose dogs got run over in their long drive yesterday by the milkman, (the dog was lovely, inherited from an old aunt, she was a Guide dog originally but was now 14 and deaf) The poor dog got her leg banged and broken as she didn't hear the milk float reverse and she died en route to vets. As her name was Pebbles and there's very little that's named so. I thought a Jolly Bee plant might cheer Judy up as she's always wanted one. There is a rose called 'Pebble Beach'. However, it's more commonly sold as 'Softcover' or 'Sparkling Pink'. What Judy calls it within her own garden is her affair. -- Spider from high ground in SE London gardening on clay |
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"Jolly Bee"
In article , Bob Hobden
writes Don't know if she is into cacti but how about some Lithops, known as living stones or pebble plants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithops http://www.lithops.info/ Thanks Bob, I have found a nursery in NI which sells a Hosta called sand pebbles, well the RHS says it does but I can't find it in their catalogue!! Also Chiltern seeds had Auriana pebbles. No idea what the plant is but I'll give that a go -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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"Jolly Bee"
In article , Spider
writes There is a rose called 'Pebble Beach'. However, it's more commonly sold as 'Softcover' or 'Sparkling Pink'. What Judy calls it within her own garden is her affair. Lovely will look out for it. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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