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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
Does anyone in urg grow this outdoors in the garden (in the UK)? I've just seen it for sale in Scotland but have some doubts about the vendor's hardiness claim Janet |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
On 09/03/2013 15:54, Janet wrote:
Does anyone in urg grow this outdoors in the garden (in the UK)? I've just seen it for sale in Scotland but have some doubts about the vendor's hardiness claim Janet I don't, but both Ness and Birmingham Botanic Gardens used to grow it. Ness lost it in the last hard winter; I haven't been to Birmingham for a few years, so I don't know how their specimen did. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
On 2013-03-09 15:54:38 +0000, Janet said:
Does anyone in urg grow this outdoors in the garden (in the UK)? I've just seen it for sale in Scotland but have some doubts about the vendor's hardiness claim Janet We usually have it but sell it in our 'Tender' section. It depends what hardiness they're claiming for it really. Most seem to think it won't go below -5C and certainly not for prolonged periods. Frost-free gardens which can offer shelter, sun and good drainage would probably keep it but the majority don't fall into that category, so we'd call it more of a conservatory plant. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
Am 09.03.2013 16:54, schrieb Janet:
Does anyone in urg grow this outdoors in the garden (in the UK)? I've just seen it for sale in Scotland but have some doubts about the vendor's hardiness claim It survives (and grows well) even in the warmer parts of Germany (wine regions) with temperatures sometimes dropping well below -15C. Best regards Gotthelf -- http://www.wolmershaeuser.de |
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"G Wolmershäuser" wrote
schrieb Janet: Does anyone in urg grow this outdoors in the garden (in the UK)? I've just seen it for sale in Scotland but have some doubts about the vendor's hardiness claim It survives (and grows well) even in the warmer parts of Germany (wine regions) with temperatures sometimes dropping well below -15C. That would suggest that if the wood is hardened in a warm summer it can survive the cold. Janet, pray for warm summers! -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
Thanks for replies...you've talked me into trying it :-) Who could resist at £30. Now I'm mentally roaming the garden back home looking for a suitable spot. Janet |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
On 09/03/2013 20:40, Janet wrote:
Thanks for replies...you've talked me into trying it:-) Who could resist at £30. Now I'm mentally roaming the garden back home looking for a suitable spot. huh, my friend's got one in a fairly sheltered garden. You never see the blinking flowers as you have to crawl under netting and fleece to see them as they always flower at the coldest time. Growth not much to write home about either but fragrance lovely. -- Janet T. Amersham |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
On 2013-03-09 23:09:03 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:
On 09/03/2013 20:40, Janet wrote: Thanks for replies...you've talked me into trying it:-) Who could resist at £30. Now I'm mentally roaming the garden back home looking for a suitable spot. huh, my friend's got one in a fairly sheltered garden. You never see the blinking flowers as you have to crawl under netting and fleece to see them as they always flower at the coldest time. Growth not much to write home about either but fragrance lovely. The scent is lovely, I agree but the growth habit would make it better in a conservatory, preferably in a (very) raised bed!! ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
On 10/03/2013 07:18, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-03-09 23:09:03 +0000, Janet Tweedy said: On 09/03/2013 20:40, Janet wrote: Thanks for replies...you've talked me into trying it:-) Who could resist at £30. Now I'm mentally roaming the garden back home looking for a suitable spot. huh, my friend's got one in a fairly sheltered garden. You never see the blinking flowers as you have to crawl under netting and fleece to see them as they always flower at the coldest time. Growth not much to write home about either but fragrance lovely. The scent is lovely, I agree but the growth habit would make it better in a conservatory, preferably in a (very) raised bed!! ;-) Whenever I see a plant offered for sale that I've never seen before, the first question I ask myself is /why/ have I never seen it before if it is as good as the label tells me it is? The usual answer is that it is not hardy despite what the label or seller might say. And I think that is the case with Edgeworthia (which I have seen for sale several times), but have never seen outside - even against a wall. Maybe there are some in very sheltered sites, but it's rarity suggests it has been tried and found wanting. It's always worth pushing the boundaries - particularly for new plants - to establish just what the limits are, whether temperature, light, watering, or whatever. But I think that Edgeworthia has been around long enough for it to have a "not hardy" label. -- Jeff |
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On 2013-03-10 10:31:22 +0000, Jeff Layman said:
On 10/03/2013 07:18, Sacha wrote: On 2013-03-09 23:09:03 +0000, Janet Tweedy said: On 09/03/2013 20:40, Janet wrote: Thanks for replies...you've talked me into trying it:-) Who could resist at £30. Now I'm mentally roaming the garden back home looking for a suitable spot. huh, my friend's got one in a fairly sheltered garden. You never see the blinking flowers as you have to crawl under netting and fleece to see them as they always flower at the coldest time. Growth not much to write home about either but fragrance lovely. The scent is lovely, I agree but the growth habit would make it better in a conservatory, preferably in a (very) raised bed!! ;-) Whenever I see a plant offered for sale that I've never seen before, the first question I ask myself is /why/ have I never seen it before if it is as good as the label tells me it is? The usual answer is that it is not hardy despite what the label or seller might say. And I think that is the case with Edgeworthia (which I have seen for sale several times), but have never seen outside - even against a wall. Maybe there are some in very sheltered sites, but it's rarity suggests it has been tried and found wanting. It's always worth pushing the boundaries - particularly for new plants - to establish just what the limits are, whether temperature, light, watering, or whatever. But I think that Edgeworthia has been around long enough for it to have a "not hardy" label. Ray always says that if people aren't growing a (garden) plant there may well be a reason for that! I'm sure you're right re Edgworthia. It wouldn't 'do' here but it might in e.g. Salcombe which gives a fairly limited range. That said, friends of ours living there lost several Agaves a couple of years ago. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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EDGEWORTHIA chrysantha
"Janet" wrote in message ... Does anyone in urg grow this outdoors in the garden (in the UK)? I've just seen it for sale in Scotland but have some doubts about the vendor's hardiness claim Janet There is a plant of this in the border in front of the house at Wisley, I checked this January while visiting and it is unprotected and un damaged (I accept its been a mild winter but its a large shrub so its been there a few years) I would say if it gets good summer heat it will take occasional -10c -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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On 2013-03-11 08:45:14 +0000, Charlie Pridham said:
"Janet" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Janet" wrote in message ... Does anyone in urg grow this outdoors in the garden (in the UK)? I've just seen it for sale in Scotland but have some doubts about the vendor's hardiness claim Janet There is a plant of this in the border in front of the house at Wisley, I checked this January while visiting and it is unprotected and un damaged (I accept its been a mild winter but its a large shrub so its been there a few years) I would say if it gets good summer heat it will take occasional -10c Gardening is always a compromise :-) In a typical winter my Arran garden will have a few nights where the temp dips below 0C. The coldest so far this winter was - 2C.But, we do not get anything I could seriously call "good summer heat". Every few siummers or so the temp briefly reaches 74 for an afternoon or so and we all start flopping around imagining the onset of heat exhaustion. I agree there's sometimes a good reason a plant is "never seen".. but quite often, it's not been seen just because it never had a good publicity agent. I already grow several such plants which have proved to be perfectly happy and hardy in my garden to a regular chorus from visitors of "whatever is that, never seen it for sale". Anyway, since several posters have reported seeing Edgworthia surviving in colder spots than mine, I reckon it's worth a gamble, so this afternoon I went back to the GC and bought one. Janet Same for us here Janet, lack of summer heat is a bigger problem than winter cold. Plus winter wet! We had a Cytisus battandieri in what we thought was a sheltered spot and it lasted precisely one year. I don't think it was a particularly cold winter, so suspect it was the wet wot got it. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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