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A plea for help with Carrot fly
This year in my allotment I have again suffered with carrott fly.
I've tried a lot of the growing methods by growing under fleece, planting altenate rows with other plants, jeyes fluid watered on the crop and this year covering with grass clippings. Nothing seems to work, and to add embarrassment to dismal failure last night, whilst watering the plot my wife tripped and fell over and into the fleece covered carrot rows. She caused quite extensive damage for such a small woman! The damage caused gave us the opportunity to check the crop only to find, yes you guessed, carrot fly. So next year I guess the only alternative will be a raised covered bed or no carrotts. At 76 I really don't fancy making a raised bed with all the hassle of transporting earth in a wheel barrow. So, my plea is this. Is there any product on the market that can be used to deter this little beast. Years ago I used "Bromophos" and that worked so well the EEC banned it. Does anyone on the group use any other product with any degree of success? Peter -- - The e-mail address obviously doesn't exist. If it's essential that you contact me then try peterATpfjamesDOTcoDOTuk |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
On 22/07/2013 08:30, Peter James wrote:
This year in my allotment I have again suffered with carrott fly. I've tried a lot of the growing methods by growing under fleece, planting altenate rows with other plants, jeyes fluid watered on the crop and this year covering with grass clippings. Nothing seems to work, and to add embarrassment to dismal failure last night, whilst watering the plot my wife tripped and fell over and into the fleece covered carrot rows. She caused quite extensive damage for such a small woman! The damage caused gave us the opportunity to check the crop only to find, yes you guessed, carrot fly. So next year I guess the only alternative will be a raised covered bed or no carrotts. At 76 I really don't fancy making a raised bed with all the hassle of transporting earth in a wheel barrow. So, my plea is this. Is there any product on the market that can be used to deter this little beast. Years ago I used "Bromophos" and that worked so well the EEC banned it. Does anyone on the group use any other product with any degree of success? Peter I do not know, but have had the same problems. There must be a product available to commercial growers, otherwise the country would be a carrot free zone! ;-) |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
Peter if you are only 76 it will be worth it.
I had a letter from one of my pension providers and they offered me a lump sum instead of the monthly payments. The lump sum is equal to 10.5 years of payments! Thank you but no thank you. I intend living much longer than that. So should you so build those raised beds, that's what we have got. Mike "Peter James" wrote in message . .. This year in my allotment I have again suffered with carrott fly. I've tried a lot of the growing methods by growing under fleece, planting altenate rows with other plants, jeyes fluid watered on the crop and this year covering with grass clippings. Nothing seems to work, and to add embarrassment to dismal failure last night, whilst watering the plot my wife tripped and fell over and into the fleece covered carrot rows. She caused quite extensive damage for such a small woman! The damage caused gave us the opportunity to check the crop only to find, yes you guessed, carrot fly. So next year I guess the only alternative will be a raised covered bed or no carrotts. At 76 I really don't fancy making a raised bed with all the hassle of transporting earth in a wheel barrow. So, my plea is this. Is there any product on the market that can be used to deter this little beast. Years ago I used "Bromophos" and that worked so well the EEC banned it. Does anyone on the group use any other product with any degree of success? Peter -- - The e-mail address obviously doesn't exist. If it's essential that you contact me then try peterATpfjamesDOTcoDOTuk |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:19:01 +0000, Baz wrote:
What has always worked for me, is to make up a timber frame to length and breadth you want it to be, but it MUST be at least 700mm high. The fly does not fly above that. Wot 'e said and use seed-tapes so that you don't need to thin. |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
Derek Turner wrote in news:b54farFe6cmU1
@mid.individual.net: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:19:01 +0000, Baz wrote: What has always worked for me, is to make up a timber frame to length and breadth you want it to be, but it MUST be at least 700mm high. The fly does not fly above that. Wot 'e said and use seed-tapes so that you don't need to thin. Thinning has now't to do with it. The fly WILL get to them without thinning How do I know? I have tried sowing and not thinning, and the fly was there. How they find them is a mystery to me, but they find them. To sum up : You have to use the barrier method. (stop them getting in) Baz |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
Peter James wrote:
This year in my allotment I have again suffered with carrott fly. I've tried a lot of the growing methods by growing under fleece, planting altenate rows with other plants, jeyes fluid watered on the crop and this year covering with grass clippings. Nothing seems to work, and to add embarrassment to dismal failure last night, whilst watering the plot my wife tripped and fell over and into the fleece covered carrot rows. She caused quite extensive damage for such a small woman! The damage caused gave us the opportunity to check the crop only to find, yes you guessed, carrot fly. So next year I guess the only alternative will be a raised covered bed or no carrotts. At 76 I really don't fancy making a raised bed with all the hassle of transporting earth in a wheel barrow. So, my plea is this. Is there any product on the market that can be used to deter this little beast. Years ago I used "Bromophos" and that worked so well the EEC banned it. Does anyone on the group use any other product with any degree of success? Peter For years I've planted mine in boxes fixed onto the garden fence 4 foot up off the ground - and never had a problem with the blighters. The growing compost is changed every year, so no need to rotate the planting sequence with other stuff I grow by the same method - and I'm not too far behind you in age. |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
"Peter James" wrote in message . .. This year in my allotment I have again suffered with carrott fly. I've tried a lot of the growing methods by growing under fleece, planting altenate rows with other plants, jeyes fluid watered on the crop and this year covering with grass clippings. Nothing seems to work, and to add embarrassment to dismal failure last night, whilst watering the plot my wife tripped and fell over and into the fleece covered carrot rows. She caused quite extensive damage for such a small woman! The damage caused gave us the opportunity to check the crop only to find, yes you guessed, carrot fly. So next year I guess the only alternative will be a raised covered bed or no carrotts. At 76 I really don't fancy making a raised bed with all the hassle of transporting earth in a wheel barrow. So, my plea is this. Is there any product on the market that can be used to deter this little beast. Years ago I used "Bromophos" and that worked so well the EEC banned it. Does anyone on the group use any other product with any degree of success? Last year the carrot fly didn't discover my carrots until late and this year we have sowed inside 6 inch boards i.e. the soil is the same height but there are 6 inch high wooden boards tacked into place around the carrots. Remains to be seen if it works as they aren't ready yet. Tina |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
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, says... This year in my allotment I have again suffered with carrott fly. I've tried a lot of the growing methods by growing under fleece, planting altenate rows with other plants, jeyes fluid watered on the crop and this year covering with grass clippings. Nothing seems to work, and to add embarrassment to dismal failure last night, whilst watering the plot my wife tripped and fell over and into the fleece covered carrot rows. She caused quite extensive damage for such a small woman! The damage caused gave us the opportunity to check the crop only to find, yes you guessed, carrot fly. So next year I guess the only alternative will be a raised covered bed or no carrotts. At 76 I really don't fancy making a raised bed with all the hassle of transporting earth in a wheel barrow. So, my plea is this. Is there any product on the market that can be used to deter this little beast. Years ago I used "Bromophos" and that worked so well the EEC banned it. Does anyone on the group use any other product with any degree of success? Peter A new neighbour of mine is growing his carrots in and old dustbin, has a very health looking crop compared to mine! Not sure how much soil he put in, but obviously the bin is full of something. I'll be interested to see the results. Does not give a massive crop of course, I suspected you'll need about 10 dustbins if you want to keep them through the winter. -- Roger T 700 ft up in Mid-Wales |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
"Peter James" wrote ...
This year in my allotment I have again suffered with carrott fly. I've tried a lot of the growing methods by growing under fleece, planting altenate rows with other plants, jeyes fluid watered on the crop and this year covering with grass clippings. Nothing seems to work, and to add embarrassment to dismal failure last night, whilst watering the plot my wife tripped and fell over and into the fleece covered carrot rows. She caused quite extensive damage for such a small woman! The damage caused gave us the opportunity to check the crop only to find, yes you guessed, carrot fly. So next year I guess the only alternative will be a raised covered bed or no carrotts. At 76 I really don't fancy making a raised bed with all the hassle of transporting earth in a wheel barrow. So, my plea is this. Is there any product on the market that can be used to deter this little beast. Years ago I used "Bromophos" and that worked so well the EEC banned it. Does anyone on the group use any other product with any degree of success? We pulled some lovely carrots yesterday and no root fly. We grow them in an old large household water tank so they are about 2.5 feet above the normal ground. The tank is filled with compost from grow bags and sharp sand. The tank needs to be positioned away from any other high plants, fences etc, so it's in the open or from experience the fly will get in. Even this will not stop the fly eventually finding the carrots late in the season IME. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
"Malcolm" wrote in message ... I've grown them in the past at ground level under fleece which has always worked for me. This year, though, I thought I would try something different and so, rather than use a fleece, I've sprayed on Nemasys Grow Your Own, from the moment the first leaves appeared and then fortnightly. This contains nematodes that control against a range of pests. Available on Amazon. I've also been very careful not to leave holes when thinning, but to press the soil down, and, so far, no signs of damage, and thinnings up to half an inch thick and 3-4 inches long. Never knowingly had an attack from fly round here. Just them pesky bunnies that attack, given half a chance. They eat off the tops given half a chance. Pete |
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A plea for help with Carrot fly
Derek Turner wrote in news:b54farFe6cmU1
@mid.individual.net: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:19:01 +0000, Baz wrote: What has always worked for me, is to make up a timber frame to length and breadth you want it to be, but it MUST be at least 700mm high. The fly does not fly above that. Wot 'e said and use seed-tapes so that you don't need to thin. Ah! I see what you mean. But a raised bed 700mm high? I don't know how that can be done with the cost of the thing. I always thought of raised beds as 300mm max.(due to the cost) Baz |
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