Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water, including my
allotment. Also including the car park of a garden centre I passed today,
which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming "Seed potatoes now in".

It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

shazzbat wrote:
Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water,
including my allotment. Also including the car park of a garden
centre I passed today, which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming "Seed
potatoes now in".
It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

You'll have to wait for the long-trumpeted human-induced global warming [1]
to take affect first to heat the paddies (fields that is, not the Irish) -
and then you'll have no bloody water to plant the rice in 'cos it's too
flamin' hot and dry!

You just can't win!

[1] If you believe in such rot that is - and notwithstanding the fact
that nature changes her weather patterns more times than females nag!

"Let It Be" wrote

shazzbat wrote:
Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water,
including my allotment. Also including the car park of a garden
centre I passed today, which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming "Seed
potatoes now in".
It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

You'll have to wait for the long-trumpeted human-induced global warming [1]
to take affect first to heat the paddies (fields that is, not the Irish) -
and then you'll have no bloody water to plant the rice in 'cos it's too
flamin' hot and dry!

You just can't win!

[1] If you believe in such rot that is - and notwithstanding the fact
that nature changes her weather patterns more times than females nag!


Oh I now believe in Global Warming, there is too much evidence that it is
happening. Just look at how the weather has changed in the way it was
predicted. Worse storms, more rain, more wind, rise in sea levels, it's
exactly as predicted. Global warming does not mean it will get warmer
everywhere and considering what keeps this northern island warm winters here
could become a great deal colder.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Let It Be" wrote

shazzbat wrote:
Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water,
including my allotment. Also including the car park of a garden
centre I passed today, which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming
"Seed potatoes now in".
It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

You'll have to wait for the long-trumpeted human-induced global
warming [1] to take affect first to heat the paddies (fields that
is, not the Irish) - and then you'll have no bloody water to plant
the rice in 'cos it's too flamin' hot and dry!

You just can't win!

[1] If you believe in such rot that is - and notwithstanding the
fact that nature changes her weather patterns more times than
females nag!
Oh I now believe in Global Warming, there is too much evidence that
it is happening. Just look at how the weather has changed in the way
it was predicted.

Just to show who really is the mistress, mother nature's been doing that for
millions of years with the odd ice-age, flood, drought, fire etc being
recycled every few thousand years - even letting Krakato blow its top in
1883 and changing the weather patterns in this country for a couple of years
showing her power by causing a famine here with all the dust fall-out
blocking out the sun.

Worse storms, more rain, more wind, rise in sea
levels, it's exactly as predicted. Global warming does not mean it
will get warmer everywhere and considering what keeps this northern
island warm winters here could become a great deal colder.

"As predicted" - it's not really difficult to see a change in natural
weather patterns and then the scientists "predict" the end of the world so
that governments and multi-national firms can attempt to scare the living
daylights out of the population and start taxing them to subsidise oversized
windmills etc in the 'false hope' that the world will be saved.

Remember that weather patterns change and at some time in the future, when
all the earth's resources are used up, all animal life on this planet will
become extinct - a simple fact. And that's assuming that someone doesn't
start an atomic war or let loose chemical or germ warfare - let alone mother
nature deciding to teach us mere mortals a lesson and wipe us out with her
own mighty army of little germs that we humans are not resistant to because
of overuse of various medicines and antidotes.

And that's without the poisons we are ingesting through adding various
chemicals to our foods and plants so that they apparently 'last longer',
'taste better' or simply just to change their colour because they will 'look
better'.

A long response from a sceptic - but I never did follow the herd!

"Let It Be" wrote in message ...

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Let It Be" wrote

shazzbat wrote:
Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water,
including my allotment. Also including the car park of a garden
centre I passed today, which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming
"Seed potatoes now in".
It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

You'll have to wait for the long-trumpeted human-induced global
warming [1] to take affect first to heat the paddies (fields that
is, not the Irish) - and then you'll have no bloody water to plant
the rice in 'cos it's too flamin' hot and dry!

You just can't win!

[1] If you believe in such rot that is - and notwithstanding the
fact that nature changes her weather patterns more times than
females nag!
Oh I now believe in Global Warming, there is too much evidence that
it is happening. Just look at how the weather has changed in the way
it was predicted.

Just to show who really is the mistress, mother nature's been doing that for
millions of years with the odd ice-age, flood, drought, fire etc being
recycled every few thousand years - even letting Krakato blow its top in
1883 and changing the weather patterns in this country for a couple of years
showing her power by causing a famine here with all the dust fall-out
blocking out the sun.

Worse storms, more rain, more wind, rise in sea
levels, it's exactly as predicted. Global warming does not mean it
will get warmer everywhere and considering what keeps this northern
island warm winters here could become a great deal colder.

"As predicted" - it's not really difficult to see a change in natural
weather patterns and then the scientists "predict" the end of the world so
that governments and multi-national firms can attempt to scare the living
daylights out of the population and start taxing them to subsidise oversized
windmills etc in the 'false hope' that the world will be saved.

Remember that weather patterns change and at some time in the future, when
all the earth's resources are used up, all animal life on this planet will
become extinct - a simple fact. And that's assuming that someone doesn't
start an atomic war or let loose chemical or germ warfare - let alone mother
nature deciding to teach us mere mortals a lesson and wipe us out with her
own mighty army of little germs that we humans are not resistant to because
of overuse of various medicines and antidotes.

And that's without the poisons we are ingesting through adding various
chemicals to our foods and plants so that they apparently 'last longer',
'taste better' or simply just to change their colour because they will 'look
better'.

A long response from a sceptic - but I never did follow the herd!

============================== =====================



Couldn't have put it better myself.

Well said.

All these 'tree huggers' who are going to save the world!!!! As if they
'really' think think they can!!!

Too many people are too full of their own importance.

Mike





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Brings to mind Pot, Kettle Black.



Couldn't have put it better myself.

Well said.

All these 'tree huggers' who are going to save the world!!!! As if they
'really' think think they can!!!

Too many people are too full of their own importance.

Mike





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www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com
www.rneba.org.uk
www.nsrafa.org

David I look forward to you posting where I have said I am a tree hugger and
will save the world.

There was a programme on TV a few years back giving the history of the world
from it's forming thirty six thousand million years ago, (I will take their
word for it) and right at the end of the programme the presenter,
Attenborough I think it was, walked towards the camera down a black and
white tile path explaining that each tile represented, something like ten
thousand years, (somebody will correct me) and after he had got to the end
he told the camera to pan down to the end, and there was a very thin line.
"And that is how long man has been on the Planet"

and you think you are important to the Earth?

I know some on this forum do think that, but
.................................

Happy New Year. Make the most of it, you won't see too many compared to the
Earth's existence, so live it to the full and ignore the fools full of worry
and "We must save the World"

Mike

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www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com
www.rneba.org.uk
www.nsrafa.org
"David Hill" wrote in message ...

Brings to mind Pot, Kettle Black.



Couldn't have put it better myself.

Well said.

All these 'tree huggers' who are going to save the world!!!! As if they
'really' think think they can!!!

Too many people are too full of their own importance.

Mike





---------------------------------------------------------------
www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk
www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com
www.rneba.org.uk
www.nsrafa.org

Too many people are too full of their own importance.

Mike





---------------------------------------------------------------
www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk
www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com
www.rneba.org.uk
www.nsrafa.org

Think this may have been what prompted the pot and kettle remark! ;-)

"Harry D" wrote in message ...




Too many people are too full of their own importance.


Think this may have been what prompted the pot and kettle remark! ;-)
==========================================

Well said Harry!! :-)

But you try telling them!

You just watch the postings ........ 'I know this ...' .... 'I know that
.........'

I have many friends who watch and read this forum and have a damn good
laugh.

If only they could see themselves! :-)

Mike


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www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com
www.rneba.org.uk
www.nsrafa.org

"Let It Be" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Let It Be" wrote

shazzbat wrote:
Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water,
including my allotment. Also including the car park of a garden
centre I passed today, which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming
"Seed potatoes now in".
It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

You'll have to wait for the long-trumpeted human-induced global
warming [1] to take affect first to heat the paddies (fields that
is, not the Irish) - and then you'll have no bloody water to plant
the rice in 'cos it's too flamin' hot and dry!

You just can't win!

[1] If you believe in such rot that is - and notwithstanding the
fact that nature changes her weather patterns more times than
females nag!
Oh I now believe in Global Warming, there is too much evidence that
it is happening. Just look at how the weather has changed in the way
it was predicted.

Just to show who really is the mistress, mother nature's been doing that
for millions of years with the odd ice-age, flood, drought, fire etc being
recycled every few thousand years - even letting Krakato blow its top in
1883 and changing the weather patterns in this country for a couple of
years showing her power by causing a famine here with all the dust fall-out
blocking out the sun.

Worse storms, more rain, more wind, rise in sea
levels, it's exactly as predicted. Global warming does not mean it
will get warmer everywhere and considering what keeps this northern
island warm winters here could become a great deal colder.

"As predicted" - it's not really difficult to see a change in natural
weather patterns and then the scientists "predict" the end of the world so
that governments and multi-national firms can attempt to scare the living
daylights out of the population and start taxing them to subsidise
oversized windmills etc in the 'false hope' that the world will be saved.

Remember that weather patterns change and at some time in the future, when
all the earth's resources are used up, all animal life on this planet will
become extinct - a simple fact. And that's assuming that someone doesn't
start an atomic war or let loose chemical or germ warfare - let alone
mother nature deciding to teach us mere mortals a lesson and wipe us out
with her own mighty army of little germs that we humans are not resistant
to because of overuse of various medicines and antidotes.

And that's without the poisons we are ingesting through adding various
chemicals to our foods and plants so that they apparently 'last longer',
'taste better' or simply just to change their colour because they will
'look better'.

A long response from a sceptic - but I never did follow the herd!


But those natural changes in the past were very slow, except the volcanos,
whereas this change has been much quicker. Unfortunately for those with
their heads in the sand nothing will convince them.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ...

"Let It Be" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Let It Be" wrote

shazzbat wrote:
Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water,
including my allotment. Also including the car park of a garden
centre I passed today, which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming
"Seed potatoes now in".
It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

You'll have to wait for the long-trumpeted human-induced global
warming [1] to take affect first to heat the paddies (fields that
is, not the Irish) - and then you'll have no bloody water to plant
the rice in 'cos it's too flamin' hot and dry!

You just can't win!

[1] If you believe in such rot that is - and notwithstanding the
fact that nature changes her weather patterns more times than
females nag!
Oh I now believe in Global Warming, there is too much evidence that
it is happening. Just look at how the weather has changed in the way
it was predicted.

Just to show who really is the mistress, mother nature's been doing that
for millions of years with the odd ice-age, flood, drought, fire etc being
recycled every few thousand years - even letting Krakato blow its top in
1883 and changing the weather patterns in this country for a couple of
years showing her power by causing a famine here with all the dust fall-out
blocking out the sun.

Worse storms, more rain, more wind, rise in sea
levels, it's exactly as predicted. Global warming does not mean it
will get warmer everywhere and considering what keeps this northern
island warm winters here could become a great deal colder.

"As predicted" - it's not really difficult to see a change in natural
weather patterns and then the scientists "predict" the end of the world so
that governments and multi-national firms can attempt to scare the living
daylights out of the population and start taxing them to subsidise
oversized windmills etc in the 'false hope' that the world will be saved.

Remember that weather patterns change and at some time in the future, when
all the earth's resources are used up, all animal life on this planet will
become extinct - a simple fact. And that's assuming that someone doesn't
start an atomic war or let loose chemical or germ warfare - let alone
mother nature deciding to teach us mere mortals a lesson and wipe us out
with her own mighty army of little germs that we humans are not resistant
to because of overuse of various medicines and antidotes.

And that's without the poisons we are ingesting through adding various
chemicals to our foods and plants so that they apparently 'last longer',
'taste better' or simply just to change their colour because they will
'look better'.

A long response from a sceptic - but I never did follow the herd!


But those natural changes in the past were very slow, except the volcanos,
whereas this change has been much quicker. Unfortunately for those with
their heads in the sand nothing will convince them.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK
===========================================

What sort of time scale Bob?

Do you remember the late 1940's and the early 1950's?

Of what I remember they were very much the same as today. We had an hotel,
well before I get corrected, MY PARENTS had an hotel, and we had to pacify
some really wet guests.

I also very vaguely remember being pushed across a frozen River Thames in my
push chair when we lived at Kingston on Thames. Has the Thames frozen to
that extent lately?

Time scale. Did you see the reference I made earlier to just how long man
has been on earth?

A blink in the World's existence.

Happy New Year

Mike




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www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com
www.rneba.org.uk
www.nsrafa.org

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Let It Be" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Let It Be" wrote

shazzbat wrote:
Quite a lot of the land round here (Dorset) is under water,
including my allotment. Also including the car park of a garden
centre I passed today, which nonetheless had a sign proclaiming
"Seed potatoes now in".
It might make more sense right now to plant rice.

Steve

You'll have to wait for the long-trumpeted human-induced global
warming [1] to take affect first to heat the paddies (fields that
is, not the Irish) - and then you'll have no bloody water to plant
the rice in 'cos it's too flamin' hot and dry!

You just can't win!

[1] If you believe in such rot that is - and notwithstanding the
fact that nature changes her weather patterns more times than
females nag!
Oh I now believe in Global Warming, there is too much evidence that
it is happening. Just look at how the weather has changed in the way
it was predicted.

Just to show who really is the mistress, mother nature's been doing
that for millions of years with the odd ice-age, flood, drought,
fire etc being recycled every few thousand years - even letting
Krakato blow its top in 1883 and changing the weather patterns in
this country for a couple of years showing her power by causing a
famine here with all the dust fall-out blocking out the sun.

Worse storms, more rain, more wind, rise in sea
levels, it's exactly as predicted. Global warming does not mean it
will get warmer everywhere and considering what keeps this northern
island warm winters here could become a great deal colder.

"As predicted" - it's not really difficult to see a change in natural
weather patterns and then the scientists "predict" the end of the
world so that governments and multi-national firms can attempt to
scare the living daylights out of the population and start taxing
them to subsidise oversized windmills etc in the 'false hope' that
the world will be saved. Remember that weather patterns change and at
some time in the
future, when all the earth's resources are used up, all animal life
on this planet will become extinct - a simple fact. And that's
assuming that someone doesn't start an atomic war or let loose
chemical or germ warfare - let alone mother nature deciding to teach
us mere mortals a lesson and wipe us out with her own mighty army of
little germs that we humans are not resistant to because of overuse
of various medicines and antidotes. And that's without the poisons we are
ingesting through adding
various chemicals to our foods and plants so that they apparently 'last
longer', 'taste better' or simply just to change their colour
because they will 'look better'.

A long response from a sceptic - but I never did follow the herd!


But those natural changes in the past were very slow, except the
volcanos, whereas this change has been much quicker. Unfortunately
for those with their heads in the sand nothing will convince them.

Are you that old that you can tell us how fast nature moves and seen it all?

As for the "head in the sand", even the so-called scientists cannot agree
that what's supposedly happening is an acceleration of the process caused by
man, as all they have to work on is less that a few hundred years of
ill-kept records, possibly some accurate from the last 25 years or so and
some dug-up samples that are again open to interpretation - so what are we
really to believe when these scientists don't know, and often change their
minds to an opposite way of thinking (usually after their pontificating has
caused maximum distress and upset). And that happens all of the time!

Bear in mind also that mother nature works in time-cycles, and that all we
are seeing is the repeat of one of those cycles, which have already been
described in some of those old records of yesteryear (and a long time before
the man-made dross of the industrial revolution and onwards) - and the
weather patterns that we are seeing now will change again for the better
within the next decade and all thoughts of global warming or climate change
(whatever you want to call it) will be forgotten for the next hundred years
or so after that change.

My belief is that the climate change is a natural phenomena that is
ruthlessly being exploited by governments and industry alike to their
financial advantage.

My greatest fear is not climate change, but the over-exploitation of the
planets natural mineral resources and the change of crop-growing from food
production to oil-production to try and replace the crude oil being pumped
from the earth (and for a far higher financial return) to keep up with the
petrol-heads of this world.

And don't get me started on the 'tree-huggers' policies and the damage that
they have caused with their preference over the saving of the flora and
fauna life rather than human lives.

This thread for me, started off as a comical response and has turned into
something that was not intended.

If you want my genuine thoughts on the subject, I believe that at some (not
too distant) stage in the human life cycle, all the natural resources that
we rely on now will become extinct and all forms of mass produced energy
will not be available.

As result of this (and disease) the population will be reduced to a very
tiny fraction of what it is now and life will return to that of almost a
cave-man existence of hunter-gatherer for what life and growth is left just
to barely survive - and the weather will be the least of the worries then.

And lastly, my head isn't buried in sand or anything else, it's just that no
scientist (or anyone else for that matter) has proved to me that their
theories (and that's all they are) truly altruistic - and with no hidden
agenda.

Good day to you.