I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

--
Spider
On high ground in SE London
Gardening on heavy clay

On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 10/11/2016 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.


Oh dear. Those azaleas are unlikely to flower in spring/late spring
now, which is a shame. I'm hoping my alliums will hold off flowering
until there are some bees to enjoy them, not to mention the fact that
they're supposed to be scented. They're also meant to flower in August
and extend the allium season. Anything could happen now.

Thanks for your reply.

--
Spider
On high ground in SE London
Gardening on heavy clay

On 10/11/16 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

I've got a dozen flowers on Ceanothus arboreus "Trewithen Blue ". But it
often has some flowers at this time, and also seems to be a lot hardier
than is usually stated.

--

Jeff

On 10/11/2016 15:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 10/11/16 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

I've got a dozen flowers on Ceanothus arboreus "Trewithen Blue ". But it
often has some flowers at this time, and also seems to be a lot hardier
than is usually stated.


Yes, I've known my Ceanothus (both thyr. repens and 'Concha') to put on
a few late flowers, although this is usually August/September, not
November. Fortunately, this shouldn't interfere with next year's
flowering period. I don't know what to expect with my Alliums. I'll
report back if I have flowers for Christmas.

--
Spider
On high ground in SE London
Gardening on heavy clay

On 10/11/2016 16:58, Spider wrote:
On 10/11/2016 15:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 10/11/16 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are
already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

I've got a dozen flowers on Ceanothus arboreus "Trewithen Blue ". But it
often has some flowers at this time, and also seems to be a lot hardier
than is usually stated.


Yes, I've known my Ceanothus (both thyr. repens and 'Concha') to put on
a few late flowers, although this is usually August/September, not
November. Fortunately, this shouldn't interfere with next year's
flowering period. I don't know what to expect with my Alliums. I'll
report back if I have flowers for Christmas.

I took these at the end of Oct.
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...bwbhw.jpg.html
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...ide5i.jpg.html
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...rh1gt.jpg.html
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...4b8qz.jpg.html
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...u75g3.jpg.html
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...ixng8.jpg.html
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...9abip.jpg.html
And lastly
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...9ym10.jpg.html
These daffs now have the flower spikes with the flower bud turned over
into flowering position.
David@a mixed up side of Swansea Bay

On 10/11/2016 20:23, David Hill wrote:
On 10/11/2016 16:58, Spider wrote:
On 10/11/2016 15:46, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 10/11/16 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are
already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in
pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not
much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

I've got a dozen flowers on Ceanothus arboreus "Trewithen Blue ". But it
often has some flowers at this time, and also seems to be a lot hardier
than is usually stated.


Yes, I've known my Ceanothus (both thyr. repens and 'Concha') to put on
a few late flowers, although this is usually August/September, not
November. Fortunately, this shouldn't interfere with next year's
flowering period. I don't know what to expect with my Alliums. I'll
report back if I have flowers for Christmas.

I took these at the end of Oct.
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...bwbhw.jpg.html

http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...ide5i.jpg.html

http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...rh1gt.jpg.html

http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...4b8qz.jpg.html

http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...u75g3.jpg.html

http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...ixng8.jpg.html

http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...9abip.jpg.html

And lastly
http://s240.photobucket.com/user/taf...9ym10.jpg.html

These daffs now have the flower spikes with the flower bud turned over
into flowering position.
David@a mixed up side of Swansea Bay


Lovely pics, David, and some astonishing late colour. I seem to
remember(?)you were interested in early-flowering daffs, but November
with a flower-bud-elect is quite something. Obviously, I shouldn't be
quite so surprised to find my allium in active growth! Do post a pic
when that daff flowers, please. Do you know which one it is?

--
Spider
On high ground in SE London
Gardening on heavy clay

In article , lid
says...

On 10/11/16 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

I've got a dozen flowers on Ceanothus arboreus "Trewithen Blue ". But it
often has some flowers at this time, and also seems to be a lot hardier
than is usually stated.

My (nameless) ceanothus is flowering like mad at the moment; and the
hardy fuchsias are having their best display ever.

Janet.

On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Talking of strange happenings, Iwas tidying up mmy blackberries an found
on the end of a new growth (over 1m long) some ripe berries!

Do I cut this growth back or just cut off the berries?

Malcolm

On 13/11/2016 20:18, Malcolm Race wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Talking of strange happenings, Iwas tidying up mmy blackberries an found
on the end of a new growth (over 1m long) some ripe berries!

Do I cut this growth back or just cut off the berries?

Malcolm

You could leave them for the birds, but according to old superposition
after Michaelmas (29th September) the devil takes possession of all
blackberries left and they become poisonousness
"She killed off her last husband by giving him Devil berry Pie, and I
saw her yesterday out picking again"
But according to this item the date is later
http://www.cottagesmallholder.com/th...ckberries-466/

David @ a rainfree side of Swansea Bay

On 12/11/2016 10:42, Janet wrote:
In article , lid
says...

On 10/11/16 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

I've got a dozen flowers on Ceanothus arboreus "Trewithen Blue ". But it
often has some flowers at this time, and also seems to be a lot hardier
than is usually stated.

My (nameless) ceanothus is flowering like mad at the moment; and the
hardy fuchsias are having their best display ever.

Janet.



Yes, I've got some lovely colour on my hardy fuchsias. I shall take
cuttings next year and increase the bounty.

--
Spider
On high ground in SE London
Gardening on heavy clay

On 17/11/2016 21:12, Spider wrote:
On 12/11/2016 10:42, Janet wrote:
In article , lid
says...

On 10/11/16 10:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/11/2016 15:10, Spider wrote:
I'm astonished to note that my Allium 'Summer Drummer' bulbs are
already
growing away. They were planted a bit late in October and are in
pots,
but I thought they'd come up late, not early .... certainly not this
early! Is anyone else seeing early summer bulbs coming up?
I'm concerned they won't flower at the right time, but there's not
much
I can do about it.

Among the odder things in flower are some very confused azaleas.
They got a bit of a shock yesterday when it snowed briefly.

I've got a dozen flowers on Ceanothus arboreus "Trewithen Blue ". But it
often has some flowers at this time, and also seems to be a lot hardier
than is usually stated.

My (nameless) ceanothus is flowering like mad at the moment; and the
hardy fuchsias are having their best display ever.

Janet.



Yes, I've got some lovely colour on my hardy fuchsias. I shall take
cuttings next year and increase the bounty.

As I posted my first daffs are in flower.
David@ the wet side of Swansea Bay