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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Does anyone know the date of this please?

Ophelia

what do you have planned?

Oh I thought I might dance naked in the moonlight hoping for better
veggies

OR

I was curious as to when it might be. I had seen the dates mentioned in the
previous post There is stuff also about May)

O *grin*

"June Hughes" wrote in message
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In article , Ophelia
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Does anyone know the date of this please?

Me. 24 June. My birthday

Oh I say June) It must be you then))

you shall have a flower for your ear

O

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Mary Fisher wrote:



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Ophelia wrote:

Does anyone know the date of this please?

Ophelia



21st June is midsummer's day

No. That's the summer solstice, not the same thing at all. It's also the
first day of summer.


It always strikes me a singularly silly to claim that the summer
solstice (the true 'middle' of summer in terms of the sun's height) is
claimed to be the *start* of summer.

I know that the actual season is delayed somewhat behind the time one
would expect it from the height of the sun but it really isn't delayed
by a seven weeks or so. To my mind all of June is 'summer', whether
any of May is summer is open to debate. It's not a black/white
decision anyway.


Well, that's how they do it in Australia... but with the seasons
reversed of course. Winter starts on 1st of June and summer on the 1st
of December.

Having said that, February is always the hottest month, so I always
thought it was a daft system too...

Thes.

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:146408

"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"k" wrote in message
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Ophelia wrote:

Does anyone know the date of this please?

Ophelia



21st June is midsummer's day


No. That's the summer solstice, not the same thing at all. It's also
the
first day of summer.

Mary


Keith over



Sorry Knew it was one of them

LOL no problem Thank you for helping

O



Hang on if 21st June is the first day of summer, and 24th June is
mid-summers day, does this mean that we are officially admitting that UK
summer is actually only 6 days long ???
Duncan

Jo Ling wrote:
The 21st of June is the "first day of Summer" and ALSO midsummer's day, it
being the longest day in the year (the Summer solstice).

... and pretty stupid that sounds too! :-) Unless you're making a
comment about the length of our summer how can the first day of summer
also be "midsummer's day"


Who came up with the 24th of June? That's the feast of St Johann, if I
remember rightly, and now to do with being the first, last or middle day of
Summer.

The 24th of June is a "quarter day", a day on which, traditianally,
bills are paid and the name of that quarter day is "Midsummer Day".
This is what causes a lot of the confusion between 21st and 24th June
I think.

--
Chris Green )

"Druss" wrote in message
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Hang on if 21st June is the first day of summer, and 24th June is
mid-summers day, does this mean that we are officially admitting that UK
summer is actually only 6 days long ???
Duncan

ROFL

In article , Jo Ling
writes
The 21st of June is the "first day of Summer" and ALSO midsummer's day, it
being the longest day in the year (the Summer solstice).

No, Midsummer's day has always been 24th June and as such was always the
day when everyone would go to the top of the Beacon to watch the
sunrise. We didn't do that on the longest day, we did that on midsummer
day. We ignored the fact that Druids were cavorting at Stonehenge 3 days
earlier.

Who came up with the 24th of June?

well, in my part of the world (Worcs) it's traditional.

I think, but may be wrong here, that it is also the day of pershore
Fair, and the day that you cut the last asparagus.

That's the feast of St Johann, if I
remember rightly, and now to do with being the first, last or middle day of
Summer.


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Ophelia
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"June Hughes" wrote in message
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In article , Ophelia
writes
Does anyone know the date of this please?

Me. 24 June. My birthday

Oh I say June) It must be you then))

you shall have a flower for your ear

Thanks Ophelia.
--
June Hughes

The 21st of June is the "first day of Summer" and ALSO midsummer's day, it
being the longest day in the year (the Summer solstice).

.. and pretty stupid that sounds too! :-) Unless you're making a
comment about the length of our summer how can the first day of summer
also be "midsummer's day"

Totally agree. I always get annoyed with these pronouncements that
"today is offically the first day of spring/summer/whatever". Seasons
vary across the country. Spring comes much earlier in the Scilly Isles
than it does in Norfolk, I can tell you! Why do we *need* to identify
the seasons by dates. Seasons are natural, dates are man-made.

In article , Jo Ling
writes
The 21st of June is the "first day of Summer" and ALSO midsummer's day, it
being the longest day in the year (the Summer solstice).

Who came up with the 24th of June? That's the feast of St Johann, if I
remember rightly, and now to do with being the first, last or middle day of
Summer.

I think it is St John the Baptist's day. I have no idea why it is
called midsummer's day.
--
June Hughes

Hang on if 21st June is the first day of summer, and 24th June is
mid-summers day, does this mean that we are officially admitting that UK
summer is actually only 6 days long ???
Duncan

No, there's no connection between them, just a matter of different
traditions.

Mary

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
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In article , Jo Ling
writes
The 21st of June is the "first day of Summer" and ALSO midsummer's day,
it
being the longest day in the year (the Summer solstice).

No, Midsummer's day has always been 24th June and as such was always the
day when everyone would go to the top of the Beacon to watch the
sunrise. We didn't do that on the longest day, we did that on midsummer
day. We ignored the fact that Druids were cavorting at Stonehenge 3 days
earlier.

Who came up with the 24th of June?

well, in my part of the world (Worcs) it's traditional.

I think, but may be wrong here, that it is also the day of pershore
Fair, and the day that you cut the last asparagus.

Well if we are to have a vote I vote for 24th.. espcially since it is June's
birthday

O

Hang on if 21st June is the first day of summer, and 24th June is
mid-summers day, does this mean that we are officially admitting that UK
summer is actually only 6 days long ???
Duncan



That's not as daft as it sounds. In Scotland Autumn lasts one day if you're
lucky.

Jo

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Well if we are to have a vote

???????! This is urg, not some peaceloving democracy :-)

Janet

"Jo Ling" wrote in message
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Hang on if 21st June is the first day of summer, and 24th June is
mid-summers day, does this mean that we are officially admitting that UK
summer is actually only 6 days long ???
Duncan



That's not as daft as it sounds. In Scotland Autumn lasts one day if
you're
lucky.

Are you here too? We had our summer in April

O