Hi All,
Early in June I posted about this and was given great advice about watering,
pollination and general care etc. Thanks again, however, despite my best
efforts I think our poor discovery has had it It is completely bare
now apart from about three leaves hanging on for dear life by, literally, a
thread. Im going to dig it up and later in the year replace it with a few
more. I now know that bare rooted is best and Autumn is the best time, and
that more than one is needed. My new question is can anyone give me advise
as to what variety to choose. Basically it's an eater we're looking for,
something that wont require me to need a degree in pruning and something
that will tolerate a little wind, not wonderful soil and perhaps a little
shade. Am I looking for miracles here or does such a plant exist?

Thanks again
--

Shan (Ireland)
http://ukdiscus.com/main.htm

In article , shannie
writes

Hi All,
Early in June I posted about this and was given great advice about watering,
pollination and general care etc. Thanks again, however, despite my best
efforts I think our poor discovery has had it It is completely bare
now apart from about three leaves hanging on for dear life by, literally, a
thread. Im going to dig it up and later in the year replace it with a few
more. I now know that bare rooted is best and Autumn is the best time, and
that more than one is needed. My new question is can anyone give me advise
as to what variety to choose. Basically it's an eater we're looking for,
something that wont require me to need a degree in pruning and something
that will tolerate a little wind, not wonderful soil and perhaps a little
shade. Am I looking for miracles here or does such a plant exist?

You could consider a variety not usually found in shops - that also
gives the possibility of one of the regional varieties which may be more
suited to your climate. Since you need two trees, perhaps you could have
one that you know well and are confident about, and one a bit more
unusual? make sure they are in the same flowering group to ensure cross
pollination.

eg - in cropping at the same time as Discovery, and therefore not
keping for more than a fortnight

- Devonshire Quarrenden - small dark crimson fruit, juicy and
pleasantly flavoured, but susceptible to scab
Irish Peach - small, delicately flavoured, tip bearer. Inclined to be
shy fruiter when young.

Slightly later, and keeping a bit longer

Kerry Pippin - crisp and juicy
Herrings Pippin, which I have - large aromatic fruits - but actually I
find them too large and too aromatic - they're the size of a large
cooker! Prolific, hardy and vigorous and resistant to scab.

right through to - ripening in December and keeping till march

Ard cairn Russet - Irish, quite a large tree, scab resisitant
Cornish aromatic - another that I have - crisp and aromatic, and is
cropping well for me - reliable cropper not minding high rainfall.

Descriptions are from the Scotts (Merriott) catalogue.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"shannie" wrote in message ...
Hi All,
Early in June I posted about this and was given great advice about watering,
pollination and general care etc. Thanks again, however, despite my best
efforts I think our poor discovery has had it It is completely bare
now apart from about three leaves hanging on for dear life by, literally, a
thread. Im going to dig it up and later in the year replace it with a few
more. I now know that bare rooted is best and Autumn is the best time, and
that more than one is needed. My new question is can anyone give me advise
as to what variety to choose. Basically it's an eater we're looking for,
something that wont require me to need a degree in pruning and something
that will tolerate a little wind, not wonderful soil and perhaps a little
shade. Am I looking for miracles here or does such a plant exist?

Thanks again

oh dear

you can amend the soil with compost/manure. can you also do something
about a windbreak and something about demolishing whatever creates the
shade? if not its going to be an uphill struggle.

i have too much wind and rain and have decided that a family tree (two
trees grafted on one rootstock)of lord lambourne and egremont russet
is the least worst option, but yields are frankly not impressive.
thornhayes nursery specialise in apples for the wetter, wester bits of
britain and will be able to advise you. or find a specialist nursey
close to where you are.

"Kay Easton" wrote in message
news can anyone give me advise
as to what variety to choose. Basically it's an eater we're looking for,
something that wont require me to need a degree in pruning and
something
that will tolerate a little wind, not wonderful soil and perhaps a little
shade. Am I looking for miracles here or does such a plant exist?

You could consider a variety not usually found in shops - that also
gives the possibility of one of the regional varieties which may be more
suited to your climate. Since you need two trees, perhaps you could have
one that you know well and are confident about, and one a bit more
unusual? make sure they are in the same flowering group to ensure cross
pollination.

eg - in cropping at the same time as Discovery, and therefore not
keping for more than a fortnight

- Devonshire Quarrenden - small dark crimson fruit, juicy and
pleasantly flavoured, but susceptible to scab
Irish Peach - small, delicately flavoured, tip bearer. Inclined to be
shy fruiter when young.

Slightly later, and keeping a bit longer

Kerry Pippin - crisp and juicy
Herrings Pippin, which I have - large aromatic fruits - but actually I
find them too large and too aromatic - they're the size of a large
cooker! Prolific, hardy and vigorous and resistant to scab.

right through to - ripening in December and keeping till march

Ard cairn Russet - Irish, quite a large tree, scab resisitant
Cornish aromatic - another that I have - crisp and aromatic, and is
cropping well for me - reliable cropper not minding high rainfall.

Descriptions are from the Scotts (Merriott) catalogue.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

thanks Kay printed that lot off and will have it with me when I go
shopping in Autumn, will let you know what choice I've made then.

Shan

"billtheburglar" wrote in message
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can anyone give me advise
as to what variety to choose. Basically it's an eater we're looking for,
something that wont require me to need a degree in pruning and
something
that will tolerate a little wind, not wonderful soil and perhaps a
little
shade. Am I looking for miracles here or does such a plant exist?

Thanks again

oh dear

you can amend the soil with compost/manure. can you also do something
about a windbreak and something about demolishing whatever creates the
shade? if not its going to be an uphill struggle.

Yup...will do the compost/manure thing soon and let it work on the soil
before I plant in Autumn. The windbreak/shade's a little harder, it's an
enormour piece of land, despite leylandii cutting it in half and other
shrubs n trees, we get a very strong north wind, so it's not easy to find a
place it doesn't wreak havok...anywhere nice and calm is in the shade of the
hawthorn/bramble/whitethorn ditches surrounding us. I've got till autumn to
think on it though and surely will come up with something

i have too much wind and rain and have decided that a family tree (two
trees grafted on one rootstock)of lord lambourne and egremont russet
is the least worst option, but yields are frankly not impressive.
thornhayes nursery specialise in apples for the wetter, wester bits of
britain and will be able to advise you. or find a specialist nursey
close to where you are.

Have an idea now from Kay what to look for and will take it with me when I
go. Problem with nurseries round here is they don't seem to know much about
the likes of apple trees etc....when I bought my poor discovery it was they
that told me I didn't need a second...hence the request here, I figured it
would be best to ask someone who actually grows them..reading tags at the
nursery is confusing as they all want theirs to sell...anyway, I've got me
list, will do the work on the area and after that it's fingers crossed.

Thanks again
Shan

In article , Kay Easton
writes
In article , shannie
writes

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Cornish aromatic - another that I have - crisp and aromatic, and is
cropping well for me - reliable cropper not minding high rainfall.

Is that the same as Cornish Gillyflower? If so, that is the one I would
choose if I were planting an eater. The fruit has the most wonderful
subtle flavour of aniseed.
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.