Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT hardly anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Regards

Ron

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Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT hardly anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Flavour depends more upon plant management than variety. We grow ours on
good healthy soil, following brassicas without any added nutrients. We
only water them if there is a drought. That way they grow more slowly,
thus they have more opportunity to develop good flavour at an early
stage while they are still tender. [We have not had them with waffles,
but it's an idea worth trying.]

We consider that big knobbly pods with hardening bean-seeds in them are
only fit for the compost heap. We are picking, eating and freezing young
runner beans every day at present. I can't tell you the variety, we save
our own seed each year and it's a long time since we bought new ones.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

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Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT hardly anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Scarlet Emperor.

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Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT
hardly anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Scarlet Emperor.

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Ron.
You must accept that the flavour or taste of any vegetables is down
to the individual.. What is good for the goose may not be good for the
gander, (as they say.)
I can only suggest you try all the varieties and decided for yourself
which to grow in future years. Like others have mentioned( and me) you
can save 'pods' of those you prefer for the following season..
I like them all home grown ones.
Peter.

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Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT hardly
anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Scarlet Emperor.

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I'll second that.
Cheers
John T

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You must accept that the flavour or taste of any vegetables is down
to the individual.. What is good for the goose may not be good for the
gander, (as they say.)
I can only suggest you try all the varieties and decided for yourself
which to grow in future years. Like others have mentioned( and me) you
can save 'pods' of those you prefer for the following season..
I like them all home grown ones.

However, if you grow more than one variety you may well get an hybrid
because of cross-pollination, and the beans from the new plants may not
be the same as the beans from the originals.

So:

Before the first frosts, dig up carefully all the roots of the beans you
like best, leaving several inches of stem.

Store these over winter in dry sand in a plastic tub or sack. Keep cool,
but protect from frost.

Plant the roots out when you would be planting out beans or seedlings.

You will get several vines from each root, and beans before any grown
from seed.

In dry weather give the flowers a spray-mist to help them set. (Applies
to any runner beans.)

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In dry weather give the flowers a spray-mist to help them set

Hessayon says this is an old wives tale. It is important for the soil to
be moist. His recommendation for success is to plant a white-flowered
variety

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

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You must accept that the flavour or taste of any vegetables is
down
to the individual.. What is good for the goose may not be good for
the
gander, (as they say.)
I can only suggest you try all the varieties and decided for
yourself
which to grow in future years.
Rusty replied.
However, if you grow more than one variety you may well get an
hybrid
because of cross-pollination, and the beans from the new plants may
not
be the same as the beans from the originals.

So:

Before the first frosts, dig up carefully all the roots of the beans
you
like best, leaving several inches of stem.

Store these over winter in dry sand in a plastic tub or sack. Keep
cool,
but protect from frost.

Plant the roots out when you would be planting out beans or
seedlings.

You will get several vines from each root, and beans before any
grown
from seed.

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A good point re cross pollination. I have never heard or read about
saving roots and some stem.(apart from leaving the roots in the
ground)
I will give it a go at the end of the season and see if I can
overwinter them.
Peter.

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Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT hardly anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Can't you read? I said Enorma (grown organically, of course.)
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.

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Can't you read? I said Enorma (grown organically, of course.)

Now, now! While your reply may have been picked up by your server (and
mine), there's no guarantee that it arrived on Ron's mousemat.

It didn't, and anyway, I was hoping for no waffle and if he didn't waffle
then, why waffle now?!

Ron

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| A good point re cross pollination. I have never heard or read about
| saving roots and some stem.(apart from leaving the roots in the
| ground)
| I will give it a go at the end of the season and see if I can
| overwinter them.
|
| I packed a ten gallon plastic tub with roots last year, and every one
| was viable in the spring. I found that I hadn't left enough stem on some
| of them and the ones I cut right back took an extra month or so to
| shoot.
|
| Those with a couple of inches of stem (and buds!) were away within a
| week or so.

I left some in the ground a year or two back. It was a mild winter,
but all died. I would expect the same for roots in a tub, as I
believe that the damage was consequent on freezing.

My guess is that you can do this only when you can ensure that the
roots will never freeze at all.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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(Rusty Hinge) wrote:

In dry weather give the flowers a spray-mist to help them set

Hessayon says this is an old wives tale. It is important for the soil to
be moist. His recommendation for success is to plant a white-flowered
variety

Who's Hessayon? He may say spraying is an old wives' tale, but I tried
it two years ago and only sprayed half the row, leaving the other half
as a control.

All plants were kept well watered. All were Scarlet Emperor.

The sprayed half cropped normally, while the unsprayed vines cropped
very poorly.

Who is Hessayon again?

http://www.mlys00070.pwp.blueyonder....%20hesayon.htm
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Martin

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In article , Ron
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Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT hardly
anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Can't you read? I said Enorma (grown organically, of course.)

Now, now! While your reply may have been picked up by your server (and
mine), there's no guarantee that it arrived on Ron's mousemat.

IMHO Ron earned a terse reply by his own rudeness.

Janet.

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In article , Ron
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Urglers,

There's been lots of guff written on and off the subject BUT hardly
anybody
has told me of a runner bean with tons of flavour.

P L E A S E stop waffling and give me your recommendation.

Can't you read? I said Enorma (grown organically, of course.)

Now, now! While your reply may have been picked up by your server (and
mine), there's no guarantee that it arrived on Ron's mousemat.

IMHO Ron earned a terse reply by his own rudeness.

Janet.

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I left some in the ground a year or two back. It was a mild winter,
but all died. I would expect the same for roots in a tub, as I
believe that the damage was consequent on freezing.

My guess is that you can do this only when you can ensure that the
roots will never freeze at all.

Runner beans are very tender and the lightest frost will kill them. The
year before last i was too late, and while the roots looked OK when I
put them in the sand, by the end of the winter they were all black,
mushy and smelly.

This last winter I cut and dug them before any frost hit them, and every
root has grown. I kept the tub in the kitchen over winter, and in the
shed from mid February. (Clay lump and pantile shed.)

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