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Transparent hedge in winter
We have a mixed 6 foot deciduous hedge (30 feet long) at the front of the
house which makes a great screen from the road in the summer. Problem is it turns transparent in the winter as the leaves drop. Not sure of the plants but one I think is Blackthorn (has Sloe Berries) and another might be hawthorn or similar? I have considered digging it up and replacing with a fast-growing evergreen (privet or similar) but I realise that is going to be huge effort and will probably take some years to get back up to 6 foot. We have a restriction from building fences or walls so I was wondering if there are other alternatives such as growing an evergreen climber such as ivy to climb through and over so the evergreen climber provides the screen in the winter? Will this tend to smother and kill off the hedge or is it feasible? any ideas regards Peter |
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in article , Pete at junk wrote
on 6/8/03 9:37 pm: snip We have a restriction from building fences or walls so I was wondering if there are other alternatives such as growing an evergreen climber such as ivy to climb through and over so the evergreen climber provides the screen in the winter? Will this tend to smother and kill off the hedge or is it feasible? any ideas Where do you live? In some parts of the country you can grow evergreen hedging plants such as Escallonia. That grows fast, flowers and will give good screening. So does Griselinia. Beech can grow to 8 or 9 feet and retain its dead leaves in winter, giving a screen. (above that it will lose its leaves) Some Eucalyptus can be used as evergreen hedging but you'd need to choose the right ones. -- Sacha (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... in article , Pete at junk wrote on 6/8/03 9:37 pm: snip We have a restriction from building fences or walls so I was wondering if there are other alternatives such as growing an evergreen climber such as ivy to climb through and over so the evergreen climber provides the screen in the winter? Will this tend to smother and kill off the hedge or is it feasible? any ideas Where do you live? In some parts of the country you can grow evergreen hedging plants such as Escallonia. That grows fast, flowers and will give good screening. So does Griselinia. Beech can grow to 8 or 9 feet and retain its dead leaves in winter, giving a screen. (above that it will lose its leaves) Some Eucalyptus can be used as evergreen hedging but you'd need to choose the right ones. We live in Ipswich, Suffolk so milder than some parts of the country. Also need to add that the hedge is right next to a public footpath so I need to avoid big roots that will cause problems (the previous owner planted another section of hedge we have - conifers which have caused lifting and cracking of the tarmac pavement). I didn't really want to go to huge effort to dig up the old hedge and prepare etc. but if it is my only option then I will go for it this winter. Escallonia sounds good if I'm going to go to the effort - I like the idea of flowers as well in the summer Pete -- Sacha (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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Get a load of cuttings of Lonicera Natidia, early October, and stick them in
6 inches or more, along the base of the existing hedge every 6 inches, single or double row, they will root over the winter then grow up through the hedge, not all will survive but I think you will be surprised at the number that take. I did this 3 years ago and the hedge now looks as if it is 50 % lonicera. and if you can scrounge the cuttings then its also a very cheap solution -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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Pete wrote:
snip We have a restriction from building fences or walls What restrictions? where? snip Steve R -- "Latest gear:- One piece one button suit extremely comfortable, perfect for Relaxation, Sports, Hiking, Swimming, a must have" OOPS sorry you have one!!! |
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"Essjay001" wrote in message ... Pete wrote: snip We have a restriction from building fences or walls What restrictions? where? I think our deeds specifically state we are not allowed to erect a wall or fence on the front boundary. A hedge is a bit of a grey area but since there is one there already then I'm not concerned about replacing it with another hedge. Also I prefer something living - cheaper and nicer to look at. Pete snip Steve R -- "Latest gear:- One piece one button suit extremely comfortable, perfect for Relaxation, Sports, Hiking, Swimming, a must have" OOPS sorry you have one!!! |
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in article , Pete at junk wrote
on 7/8/03 9:55 pm: "Essjay001" wrote in message ... Pete wrote: snip We have a restriction from building fences or walls What restrictions? where? I think our deeds specifically state we are not allowed to erect a wall or fence on the front boundary. A hedge is a bit of a grey area but since there is one there already then I'm not concerned about replacing it with another hedge. Also I prefer something living - cheaper and nicer to look at. Pete Infinitely better for the wildlife, too. -- Sacha (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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"David Hill" wrote in message ... Get a load of cuttings of Lonicera Natidia, early October, and stick them in 6 inches or more, along the base of the existing hedge every 6 inches, single or double row, they will root over the winter then grow up through the hedge, not all will survive but I think you will be surprised at the number that take. I did this 3 years ago and the hedge now looks as if it is 50 % lonicera. and if you can scrounge the cuttings then its also a very cheap solution Hmm - interesting suggestion. But I haven't got any room at all on the footpatch side (overhangs) and not a lot of room on the back side - it would really need to go in its place. Would it grow up the middle and would it struggle for light and food with the existing growing again in the spring? Existing is maybe 3 feet deep or more. Or would it be worth chopping the existing hedge half back as much as I can (i.e. chop it 'in half' from the back) and planting the Lonicera to grow into the back of it? Pete -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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in article , Pete at junk wrote
on 7/8/03 9:55 pm: "Essjay001" wrote in message ... Pete wrote: snip We have a restriction from building fences or walls What restrictions? where? I think our deeds specifically state we are not allowed to erect a wall or fence on the front boundary. A hedge is a bit of a grey area but since there is one there already then I'm not concerned about replacing it with another hedge. Also I prefer something living - cheaper and nicer to look at. Pete Infinitely better for the wildlife, too. -- Sacha (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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"David Hill" wrote in message ... Get a load of cuttings of Lonicera Natidia, early October, and stick them in 6 inches or more, along the base of the existing hedge every 6 inches, single or double row, they will root over the winter then grow up through the hedge, not all will survive but I think you will be surprised at the number that take. I did this 3 years ago and the hedge now looks as if it is 50 % lonicera. and if you can scrounge the cuttings then its also a very cheap solution Hmm - interesting suggestion. But I haven't got any room at all on the footpatch side (overhangs) and not a lot of room on the back side - it would really need to go in its place. Would it grow up the middle and would it struggle for light and food with the existing growing again in the spring? Existing is maybe 3 feet deep or more. Or would it be worth chopping the existing hedge half back as much as I can (i.e. chop it 'in half' from the back) and planting the Lonicera to grow into the back of it? Pete -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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".........Would it grow up the middle and would it struggle for light and
food with the existing growing again in the spring? Existing is maybe 3 feet deep or more. ........" Yes and Yes, but if you cut your existing hedge back when it has been in leaf for a few weeks, say Sometime in April then it will be a couple of months till it gets thick again and taking light from the Lonicera, yes it will grow leggy but you can cut it back in oct or as soon as the leaves are off the thorn and it will thicken well 2nd year, and where it is on the surface then it will thicken with clipping. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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Pete wrote:
"Essjay001" wrote in message ... Pete wrote: snip We have a restriction from building fences or walls What restrictions? where? I think our deeds specifically state we are not allowed to erect a wall or fence on the front boundary. A hedge is a bit of a grey area but since there is one there already then I'm not concerned about replacing it with another hedge. Also I prefer something living - cheaper and nicer to look at. I asked because I have a clause such as this on my property. I am not allowed to park a car or caravan on my front garden. (after all with a 100 foot drive and double garage at the back of the house why would I?) But I seem to be the only one in the street. I have been told it is easy to get such a restriction removed. However if you don't want a wall or fence it is not a problem for you. My house is an ex-council house and I assume that they put the clause in at the time of sale, but I now see that the council is dropping kerbs for their tenants even in the same terrace. Steve R |
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In article , PJ
writes Self repairing and very little maintenance IMHO as well. Hmm. Sound insulation is excellent. Not as good as solid brick If you want privacy the hedge can be let grow to 7 feet even without causing offence, whereas a wall that high will just look appalling. And require planning permission -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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Transparent hedge in winter
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 8:20:30 +0100, Kay Easton wrote
(in message ): In article , PJ writes Self repairing and very little maintenance IMHO as well. Hmm. Well my simple privet hedge seems to be fine with just two trimmings a year with my electric hedge trimmer It would be better if I did more I guess... Sound insulation is excellent. Not as good as solid brick This is very true, but the hedge does have the advantage of creating a lovely sonic environment in the area it is enclosing. If you want privacy the hedge can be let grow to 7 feet even without causing offence, whereas a wall that high will just look appalling. And require planning permission I have heard that over 6 foot walls require planning permission, but this is hearsay on my part, I don't know what the rules are really. -- Patrick |
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In article , PJ
writes On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 8:20:30 +0100, Kay Easton wrote (in message ): In article , PJ writes Self repairing and very little maintenance IMHO as well. Hmm. Well my simple privet hedge seems to be fine with just two trimmings a year with my electric hedge trimmer That's what I call high maintenance ;-) It would be better if I did more I guess... Sound insulation is excellent. Not as good as solid brick This is very true, but the hedge does have the advantage of creating a lovely sonic environment in the area it is enclosing. I'm very happy it's a church between us and the A65 rather than a hedge! -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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