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Old 25-12-2003, 10:12 PM
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Hiya all, I have been lurking for a while with the occasional post and have
actually got one about gardening. I have only been gardening for a little
over a year really, so am a beginner.

What I wanted some advice on was on the subject line.

I have these in the garden and in pots, they have done well and flowered
since the summer and still look good after being covered in a layer of snow.

The main thing I wanted to know is how long is their lifespan and how do I
get the best out of them, I have found them to be the best plants to grow in
my garden and I love the colours they produce.


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Old 25-12-2003, 10:32 PM
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Hiya all, I have been lurking for a while with the occasional post and

have
actually got one about gardening. I have only been gardening for a little
over a year really, so am a beginner.

What I wanted some advice on was on the subject line.

I have these in the garden and in pots, they have done well and flowered
since the summer and still look good after being covered in a layer of

snow.

The main thing I wanted to know is how long is their lifespan and how do I
get the best out of them, I have found them to be the best plants to grow

in
my garden and I love the colours they produce.


I haven't grown any so far but I would love to, so I will be very interested
in the responses

Ophelia


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Old 25-12-2003, 11:03 PM
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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"seven" wrote in message
...
Hiya all, I have been lurking for a while with the occasional post and

have
actually got one about gardening. I have only been gardening for a

little
over a year really, so am a beginner.

What I wanted some advice on was on the subject line.

I have these in the garden and in pots, they have done well and flowered
since the summer and still look good after being covered in a layer of

snow.

The main thing I wanted to know is how long is their lifespan and how do

I
get the best out of them, I have found them to be the best plants to

grow
in
my garden and I love the colours they produce.


I haven't grown any so far but I would love to, so I will be very

interested
in the responses

Ophelia



I have been very surprised at the length of the flowering as all the other
plants in my garden had stopped flowering months ago.

I just hope the fuchsia I have starts looking better in the spring as it
doesn't look too good just now out in the garden, but I really loved it when
it was in flower a few months ago. Thankfully I was advised by someone in
this group to take cuttings, which I did, and they seem to be doing well, so
if the original doesn't survive the winter I should have some cuttings to
plant up in the spring.

Gardening is all about learning I suppose and I am having fun doing so )


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Old 26-12-2003, 10:04 AM
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"seven" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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"seven" wrote in message
...
Hiya all, I have been lurking for a while with the occasional post and

have
actually got one about gardening. I have only been gardening for a

little
over a year really, so am a beginner.

What I wanted some advice on was on the subject line.

I have these in the garden and in pots, they have done well and

flowered
since the summer and still look good after being covered in a layer of

snow.

The main thing I wanted to know is how long is their lifespan and how

do
I
get the best out of them, I have found them to be the best plants to

grow
in
my garden and I love the colours they produce.


I haven't grown any so far but I would love to, so I will be very

interested
in the responses

Ophelia



I have been very surprised at the length of the flowering as all the other
plants in my garden had stopped flowering months ago.

I just hope the fuchsia I have starts looking better in the spring as it
doesn't look too good just now out in the garden, but I really loved it

when
it was in flower a few months ago. Thankfully I was advised by someone in
this group to take cuttings, which I did, and they seem to be doing well,

so
if the original doesn't survive the winter I should have some cuttings to
plant up in the spring.


Which Fuchsia do you mean?
The only Fuchsias which I have ever grown successfully for more than one
season in the open garden are various varieties of Fuchsia ricartonii. And
then the top growth never survived the winter in any serious way. I have
always had to cut them to ground level each spring, like herbaceous
perennials.

Gardening is all about learning I suppose and I am having fun doing so

)

Franz


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Old 26-12-2003, 11:34 AM
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Gardening is all about learning I suppose and I am having fun doing so

)

Indeed A question now. I grew those tiny white daisy flowers
(Marguerites?) and they were a wonderful show until the first frost. Can I
leave the plant in situ? Will they grow again. Are they perennials?

Ophelia




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Old 26-12-2003, 12:03 PM
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"seven" wrote in
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

"seven" wrote in message
...
Hiya all, I have been lurking for a while with the occasional post
and

have
actually got one about gardening. I have only been gardening for a

little
over a year really, so am a beginner.

What I wanted some advice on was on the subject line.

I have these in the garden and in pots, they have done well and
flowered since the summer and still look good after being covered
in a layer of

snow.

The main thing I wanted to know is how long is their lifespan and
how do

I
get the best out of them,



I have been very surprised at the length of the flowering as all the
other plants in my garden had stopped flowering months ago.

I just hope the fuchsia I have starts looking better in the spring as
it doesn't look too good just now out in the garden, but I really
loved it when it was in flower a few months ago. Thankfully I was
advised by someone in this group to take cuttings, which I did, and
they seem to be doing well, so if the original doesn't survive the
winter I should have some cuttings to plant up in the spring.


Pansies are usually grown as annuals, though I too find that they often
last for two or three years. They do tend to get leggy after the first
year, though, and flower less well. As they are relatively easy to grow
from seed I tend to grow new plants rather than coaxing the old one back
- it's easier.

I think violas are more often grown as short-lived perennials, but I am
not sure if mine are perennial or if they just seed themselves! You
will probably find they come up all over if you just keep the weeds
back.

Fuchsias will all be looking a bit manky at the moment, particularly the
less hardy sorts. I find here they pretty much all come back from the
roots, even if the top growth is killed off, and I have a couple of big
hardy 'tree fuchsias' that survive very well.

If you are somewhere colder, you may be less lucky. It might be worth
bunging on a mulch of straw or compost to give it a little extra
protection before it gets really cold, and of course you do have
cuttings just in case.

If you like fuchsias, you might like to try crinodendron hookeriana next
year too - that makes quite a big bush or a small tree, with big
fuchsia-like flowers, and is a long-lived perennial that needs very
little looking after.

Victoria
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Old 26-12-2003, 02:03 PM
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Franz Heymann wrote:


"seven" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

"seven" wrote in message
...
Hiya all, I have been lurking for a while with the occasional post and
have
actually got one about gardening. I have only been gardening for a

little
over a year really, so am a beginner.

What I wanted some advice on was on the subject line.

I have these in the garden and in pots, they have done well and

flowered
since the summer and still look good after being covered in a layer of
snow.

The main thing I wanted to know is how long is their lifespan and how

do
I
get the best out of them, I have found them to be the best plants to

grow
in
my garden and I love the colours they produce.

I haven't grown any so far but I would love to, so I will be very

interested
in the responses

Ophelia



I have been very surprised at the length of the flowering as all the other
plants in my garden had stopped flowering months ago.

I just hope the fuchsia I have starts looking better in the spring as it
doesn't look too good just now out in the garden, but I really loved it

when
it was in flower a few months ago. Thankfully I was advised by someone in
this group to take cuttings, which I did, and they seem to be doing well,

so
if the original doesn't survive the winter I should have some cuttings to
plant up in the spring.


Which Fuchsia do you mean?
The only Fuchsias which I have ever grown successfully for more than one
season in the open garden are various varieties of Fuchsia ricartonii. And
then the top growth never survived the winter in any serious way. I have
always had to cut them to ground level each spring, like herbaceous
perennials.

Gardening is all about learning I suppose and I am having fun doing so

)

Franz


Depends where you are. F. ricartonii etc are rarely cut back by frost here on
the North Wales coast - we have a 300 metre hedge of them, fully exposed to the
sea. Where I grew up in the East Midlands they were cut back, but even there
they could be easily persuaded to make a framework of old wood if grown on a
warm wall. Don't have any experience of other allegedly hardy Fuchsias but I
see plenty in other gardens around here. Victoria mentioned Crinodendron
hookerianum, that's a smashing plant which could be grown more widely -
certainly in the Western half of the country. I'm sure it's hardier than many
authors suggest. I've seen ours cut back to the ground twice in 28 winters, but
they soon regrow from the huge woody rootstock. They are both around 2.5 x 2
metres atm. All the usual suspects flowering here today but the one that
surprised me is Sweet Violets still (almost) as good as new, this is my 2nd
winter with them so still learning what they will and won't do.
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Old 26-12-2003, 02:12 PM
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I just hope the fuchsia I have starts looking better in the spring as it
doesn't look too good just now out in the garden, but I really loved it

when
it was in flower a few months ago. Thankfully I was advised by someone

in
this group to take cuttings, which I did, and they seem to be doing

well,
so
if the original doesn't survive the winter I should have some cuttings

to
plant up in the spring.


Which Fuchsia do you mean?


I had the name of it written down, but cant find it at the moment, it's a
trailing one. Isn't looking too good at all.....


The only Fuchsias which I have ever grown successfully for more than one
season in the open garden are various varieties of Fuchsia ricartonii.

And
then the top growth never survived the winter in any serious way. I have
always had to cut them to ground level each spring, like herbaceous
perennials.



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Old 26-12-2003, 03:43 PM
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Pansies are usually grown as annuals, though I too find that they often
last for two or three years. They do tend to get leggy after the first
year, though, and flower less well. As they are relatively easy to grow
from seed I tend to grow new plants rather than coaxing the old one back
- it's easier.


You might try cutting the pansies back pretty well to the base, and putting
a handful or two of potting compost as a heaped mulch over the plant. Next
year's pansy will be much rejuvenated.

[snip]

Franz


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Indeed A question now. I grew those tiny white daisy flowers
(Marguerites?) and they were a wonderful show until the first frost. Can I
leave the plant in situ? Will they grow again. Are they perennials?


Marguerites are perenniels, though I'd describe them as approaching
elephantine daisies, not tiny. I'd gaugue the flowers to be about 2½"
across, and their height around 2'6".

Otherwise, spot-on!

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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
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[snip]

Pansies are usually grown as annuals, though I too find that they often
last for two or three years. They do tend to get leggy after the first
year, though, and flower less well. As they are relatively easy to grow
from seed I tend to grow new plants rather than coaxing the old one back
- it's easier.


You might try cutting the pansies back pretty well to the base, and

putting
a handful or two of potting compost as a heaped mulch over the plant.

Next
year's pansy will be much rejuvenated.


Thanks, will try that.

I have some polyanthus, I know that these are hardy plants, but should I be
doing anything to them just now? They have flowers on them, but look a
little poor.


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Indeed A question now. I grew those tiny white daisy flowers
(Marguerites?) and they were a wonderful show until the first frost.
Can I
leave the plant in situ? Will they grow again. Are they perennials?


Marguerites are perenniels, though I'd describe them as approaching
elephantine daisies, not tiny. I'd gaugue the flowers to be about 2½"
across, and their height around 2'6".


Otherwise, spot-on!


I rather suspect that the Marguerites Ophelia was referring to were
those that are a.k.a. "Paris daisies"? Bushy plants, ideal for pots.

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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Indeed A question now. I grew those tiny white daisy flowers
(Marguerites?) and they were a wonderful show until the first frost.

Can I
leave the plant in situ? Will they grow again. Are they perennials?


Marguerites are perenniels, though I'd describe them as approaching
elephantine daisies, not tiny. I'd gaugue the flowers to be about 2½"
across, and their height around 2'6".

Otherwise, spot-on!


Thanks Rusty. These are small though and come in pots. I planted some out
in a raised bed and they soon spread. They were wonderful

O


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I rather suspect that the Marguerites Ophelia was referring to were
those that are a.k.a. "Paris daisies"? Bushy plants, ideal for pots.


Yes they are bushy. They came in pots and I planted them out. They spread
beautifully and gave a super display I love all daisy type flower

O


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Old 26-12-2003, 07:02 PM
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"seven" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
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[snip]

Pansies are usually grown as annuals, though I too find that they

often
last for two or three years. They do tend to get leggy after the

first
year, though, and flower less well. As they are relatively easy to

grow
from seed I tend to grow new plants rather than coaxing the old one

back
- it's easier.


You might try cutting the pansies back pretty well to the base, and

putting
a handful or two of potting compost as a heaped mulch over the plant.

Next
year's pansy will be much rejuvenated.


Thanks, will try that.

I have some polyanthus, I know that these are hardy plants, but should I

be
doing anything to them just now? They have flowers on them, but look a
little poor.


There is nothing much to do with polyanthus now.
Divide them after flowering in the early spring

Franz


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