I've used the "Taxonomy Browser" - at:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi

....to prepare a family tree of edible plants:

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

This is quite a large page - and takes a while to load and display.

My tree contains much the same information as is in the database -
but *only* the major edible plants are listed.

This helps to remove clutter - manages to fit everything onto one page -
and /hopefully/ makes it a lot easier to see what is related to what.

This page may be of interest to those who are interested in
the genetic relationships between edible plants.

This might be of interest - for example - for those interested
in ensuring they eat a genuinely diverse diet.

Enjoy,
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Tim Tyler wrote in message ...
I've used the "Taxonomy Browser" - at:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi

...to prepare a family tree of edible plants:

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

This is quite a large page - and takes a while to load and display.

My tree contains much the same information as is in the database -
but *only* the major edible plants are listed.

This helps to remove clutter - manages to fit everything onto one page -
and /hopefully/ makes it a lot easier to see what is related to what.

This page may be of interest to those who are interested in
the genetic relationships between edible plants.

This might be of interest - for example - for those interested
in ensuring they eat a genuinely diverse diet.

Excellent: thank you very much. One of the things I dealt with when
working in world development education was that Ethiopians used a
vastly greater range of food plants than we typically do in Europe and
America. Your list narrows the gap a bit.

Mike.

Mike Lyle wrote or quoted:
Tim Tyler wrote in message ...

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

Excellent: thank you very much. [...] Your list narrows the gap a bit.

I /do/ plan to add more species as time passes.

As well as the work involved, there is some tension between completeness -
and having a page that doesn't take forever to load, and isn't too loaded
with obscure species that nobody has heard of.

Some things are missing because tracking down taxonomic information is
not always trivial - but having said that, if anyone thinks I'm missing
important species, feel free to tell me about it - and I'll see what I
can do.

I found preparing the page very instructive.

For instance, I learned that coffee "beans" and chocolate "beans" are not
related to other beans - or to each other - and that chocolate, okra and
durian most likely share their pentagonal symmetry - and other properties -
through a genetic relationship.
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Mike Lyle wrote or quoted:
Tim Tyler wrote in message ...

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

Excellent: thank you very much. [...] Your list narrows the gap a bit.

I /do/ plan to add more species as time passes.

As well as the work involved, there is some tension between completeness -
and having a page that doesn't take forever to load, and isn't too loaded
with obscure species that nobody has heard of.

Some things are missing because tracking down taxonomic information is
not always trivial - but having said that, if anyone thinks I'm missing
important species, feel free to tell me about it - and I'll see what I
can do.

I found preparing the page very instructive.

For instance, I learned that coffee "beans" and chocolate "beans" are not
related to other beans - or to each other - and that chocolate, okra and
durian most likely share their pentagonal symmetry - and other properties -
through a genetic relationship.
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In article , Tim Tyler writes
I've used the "Taxonomy Browser" - at:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi

IIRC, the Taxonomy Browser only contains those plants for which DNA
sequences are available in GenBank/EMBL/DDBJ/Sanger Institute. Therefore
it is possible that some plants cultivated for food are not listed
therein. (Crop plants will be disproportionately listed, but need not
all be present.)

Also, the Taxonomy Browser isn't completely accurate.

...to prepare a family tree of edible plants:

Is tobacco really edible?

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

You've got Apiales and Lamiales in twice. You might like to check the
tree for Asterids - it doesn't look right, but the classification might
have changed again. Also Fagaceae and Betulaceae should be under
Fagales, rather than directly under Eurosids I. I recommend the
Angiosperm Phylogeny Website for the latest word on classification. See
URL:http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/Research/APweb/.

This is quite a large page - and takes a while to load and display.

My tree contains much the same information as is in the database -
but *only* the major edible plants are listed.

I think you should have kola (Cola acuminata - Malvaceae/Byttneroideae),
and jute (Corchorus olitorius - Malvaceae/Grewioideae). (Jute is a salad
vegetable as well as a fibre crop.)

The zed in Zibethinus shouldn't be capitalised.

There's other malvaceous plants used as food, but perhaps they're not
'major'. (But I would have thought that several were more used than
Malva neglecta.) As far as I know cottonseed oil is only used in animal
feeds. (It's poisonous in sufficient dosage, so people have to worry
about feed formulation.)

I guess that you ought to have the currants under Ribes, as well as
gooseberry. (Ribes nigrum and Ribes rubrum, IIRC.)
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
http://www.meden.demon.co.uk/Malvaceae/Malvaceae.html

In article , Tim Tyler writes
For instance, I learned that coffee "beans" and chocolate "beans" are not
related to other beans - or to each other - and that chocolate, okra and
durian most likely share their pentagonal symmetry - and other properties -
through a genetic relationship.

These three species are all malvaceous, but not all malvaceous plants
have 5 sepals and petals - several, including Sparrmannia, have 4, and
Octolobus has 8 sepals (no petals). A corolla of 4 or 5 petals is a
trait shared by a large subclade of the eudicots - last I tried I failed
to work out exactly how large - so these three species share a closer
genetic relationship that indicated by the pentagonal symmetry.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article , Tim Tyler writes
I've used the "Taxonomy Browser" - at:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi

IIRC, the Taxonomy Browser only contains those plants for which DNA
sequences are available in GenBank/EMBL/DDBJ/Sanger Institute. Therefore
it is possible that some plants cultivated for food are not listed
therein. (Crop plants will be disproportionately listed, but need not
all be present.)

Also, the Taxonomy Browser isn't completely accurate.

...to prepare a family tree of edible plants:

Is tobacco really edible?

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

You've got Apiales and Lamiales in twice. You might like to check the
tree for Asterids - it doesn't look right, but the classification might
have changed again. Also Fagaceae and Betulaceae should be under
Fagales, rather than directly under Eurosids I. I recommend the
Angiosperm Phylogeny Website for the latest word on classification. See
URL:http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/Research/APweb/.

This is quite a large page - and takes a while to load and display.

My tree contains much the same information as is in the database -
but *only* the major edible plants are listed.

I think you should have kola (Cola acuminata - Malvaceae/Byttneroideae),
and jute (Corchorus olitorius - Malvaceae/Grewioideae). (Jute is a salad
vegetable as well as a fibre crop.)

The zed in Zibethinus shouldn't be capitalised.

There's other malvaceous plants used as food, but perhaps they're not
'major'. (But I would have thought that several were more used than
Malva neglecta.) As far as I know cottonseed oil is only used in animal
feeds. (It's poisonous in sufficient dosage, so people have to worry
about feed formulation.)

I guess that you ought to have the currants under Ribes, as well as
gooseberry. (Ribes nigrum and Ribes rubrum, IIRC.)
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
http://www.meden.demon.co.uk/Malvaceae/Malvaceae.html

In article , Tim Tyler writes
For instance, I learned that coffee "beans" and chocolate "beans" are not
related to other beans - or to each other - and that chocolate, okra and
durian most likely share their pentagonal symmetry - and other properties -
through a genetic relationship.

These three species are all malvaceous, but not all malvaceous plants
have 5 sepals and petals - several, including Sparrmannia, have 4, and
Octolobus has 8 sepals (no petals). A corolla of 4 or 5 petals is a
trait shared by a large subclade of the eudicots - last I tried I failed
to work out exactly how large - so these three species share a closer
genetic relationship that indicated by the pentagonal symmetry.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote or quoted:
In article , Tim Tyler writes

I've used the "Taxonomy Browser" - at:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi

IIRC, the Taxonomy Browser only contains those plants for which DNA
sequences are available in GenBank/EMBL/DDBJ/Sanger Institute. Therefore
it is possible that some plants cultivated for food are not listed
therein. (Crop plants will be disproportionately listed, but need not
all be present.)

Also, the Taxonomy Browser isn't completely accurate.

I'm not above using other sources of information - where available.

...to prepare a family tree of edible plants:

Is tobacco really edible?

;-)

I reserve the right to include a few species that people only chew on...

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

You've got Apiales and Lamiales in twice. You might like to check the
tree for Asterids - it doesn't look right, but the classification might
have changed again. Also Fagaceae and Betulaceae should be under
Fagales, rather than directly under Eurosids I. I recommend the
Angiosperm Phylogeny Website for the latest word on classification. See
URL:http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/Research/APweb/.

I think you should have kola (Cola acuminata - Malvaceae/Byttneroideae),
and jute (Corchorus olitorius - Malvaceae/Grewioideae). (Jute is a salad
vegetable as well as a fibre crop.)

The zed in Zibethinus shouldn't be capitalised.

Thanks for these points - I'll look into them.

I only capitized the "z" out of my sincere regard for all things Durian ;-)

chocolate, okra and durian most likely share their pentagonal symmetry -
and other properties - through a genetic relationship.

These three species are all malvaceous, but not all malvaceous plants
have 5 sepals and petals - several, including Sparrmannia, have 4, and
Octolobus has 8 sepals (no petals). A corolla of 4 or 5 petals is a
trait shared by a large subclade of the eudicots - last I tried I failed
to work out exactly how large - so these three species share a closer
genetic relationship that indicated by the pentagonal symmetry.

I see, I think ;-)

There's other malvaceous plants used as food, but perhaps they're not
'major'. (But I would have thought that several were more used than
Malva neglecta.) As far as I know cottonseed oil is only used in animal
feeds. [...]

Alas, I am rathr ignorant of all things mallow - but was keen to include
/something/ from this branch of the family.

The only "mallow family" plant's I've consumed personally are okra,
chocolate and durian. However, I'm extremely curious about other
members of the family - since they plainly have remarkable relatives.

I guess that you ought to have the currants under Ribes, as well as
gooseberry. (Ribes nigrum and Ribes rubrum, IIRC.)

Black, white and red currants were all conspicuous by their absence.
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I, Tim Tyler wrote or quoted:

Alas, I am rathr ignorant of all things mallow [...]

Judging by: http://www.meden.demon.co.uk/ I seem to have stumbled onto
a bit of a mallow expert ;-)

....but no pictures of okra, cocoa or durian? What gives? ;-)

I've made all the changes to:

http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

....that were suggested. Thanks again for your comments.
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In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes
I think you should have kola (Cola acuminata - Malvaceae/Byttneroideae),

Oops. Memory glitch. Cola acuminata is in Sterculioideae,
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article , Tim Tyler writes

Judging by: http://www.meden.demon.co.uk/ I seem to have stumbled onto
a bit of a mallow expert ;-)

...but no pictures of okra, cocoa or durian? What gives? ;-)


For okra see Abelmoschus Gallery.
For cocao see Theobroma Gallery.

Photographing durians in the UK is a little difficult; they're not
hardy, and they're too big for glasshouses.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes
I think you should have kola (Cola acuminata - Malvaceae/Byttneroideae),

Oops. Memory glitch. Cola acuminata is in Sterculioideae,
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
writes
I think you should have kola (Cola acuminata - Malvaceae/Byttneroideae),

Oops. Memory glitch. Cola acuminata is in Sterculioideae,
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article , Tim Tyler writes

Judging by: http://www.meden.demon.co.uk/ I seem to have stumbled onto
a bit of a mallow expert ;-)

...but no pictures of okra, cocoa or durian? What gives? ;-)


For okra see Abelmoschus Gallery.
For cocao see Theobroma Gallery.

Photographing durians in the UK is a little difficult; they're not
hardy, and they're too big for glasshouses.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley