"martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"

It is in uk.net.news.announce and it should have been posted here too

I don't see it in uk.net.news.announce and I don't see it in urg either.
What is going on?

Franz

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Franz Heymann said:

"Neil Jones" wrote in message
...

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to
this in ok.net.news.config?

The CFV appears to not have reached some news servers. It *was* posted
to uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening under
Message-ID:

I see someone has copied the CFV into urg elsewhere in this thread. That
copy is the same as posted to unna/unnc/urg for the avoidance of doubt
*Read it before requesting a ballot paper*. Ballot paper is available
by emailing which is the follow-up on the
original CFV.

Posts not propagating properly is a fact of life on Usenet.

This post PGP signed as owner of dontspame.com
- --
Pedt
(Votetaker, uk.rec.gardening.allotments)
Speaking as a member of, but not on behalf of, UKVoting

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPsdk 2.0.5

iQA/AwUBQDt82FTbLaKOkibCEQJbRACg0sXrtEuvYC8ufNElk2Db+u H3c70An29n
eEkZXw6AOCk3sq8GRG4pBhOf
=REJj
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Franz Heymann said:

"Neil Jones" wrote in message
...

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to
this in ok.net.news.config?

The CFV appears to not have reached some news servers. It *was* posted
to uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening under
Message-ID:

I see someone has copied the CFV into urg elsewhere in this thread. That
copy is the same as posted to unna/unnc/urg for the avoidance of doubt
*Read it before requesting a ballot paper*. Ballot paper is available
by emailing which is the follow-up on the
original CFV.

Posts not propagating properly is a fact of life on Usenet.

This post PGP signed as owner of dontspame.com
- --
Pedt
(Votetaker, uk.rec.gardening.allotments)
Speaking as a member of, but not on behalf of, UKVoting

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPsdk 2.0.5

iQA/AwUBQDt82FTbLaKOkibCEQJbRACg0sXrtEuvYC8ufNElk2Db+u H3c70An29n
eEkZXw6AOCk3sq8GRG4pBhOf
=REJj
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

The message
from "Neil Jones" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

Too late for pointing anyone at where to look.

I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:06:56 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from "Neil Jones" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

Too late for pointing anyone at where to look.

I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet.

I voted yesterday. I may vote again tomorrow.
--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

The message
from "Neil Jones" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

Too late for pointing anyone at where to look.

I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

The message
from "Neil Jones" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

Too late for pointing anyone at where to look.

I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:06:56 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from "Neil Jones" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

Too late for pointing anyone at where to look.

I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet.

I voted yesterday. I may vote again tomorrow.
--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:06:56 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from "Neil Jones" contains these words:
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

Too late for pointing anyone at where to look.

I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet.

I voted yesterday. I may vote again tomorrow.
--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

Neil

Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston
================================================== =================

PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion

I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I
can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to
a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than
no votes.

"Some" people are still against the formation of
uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a
total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are
"plots of land" not your common house "garden".

People with Allotments are more likely to use uk.rec.gardening.allotments
because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with
regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people
are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select
few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote.

================================================== =================

That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either
here or in unnc.
For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the
claim that (of the people who took part),

"Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening" (sic).


Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg
general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention
is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a
topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past.

Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ.

Janet

Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston
================================================== =================

PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion

I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I
can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to
a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than
no votes.

"Some" people are still against the formation of
uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a
total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are
"plots of land" not your common house "garden".

People with Allotments are more likely to use uk.rec.gardening.allotments
because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with
regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people
are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select
few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote.

================================================== =================

That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either
here or in unnc.
For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the
claim that (of the people who took part),

"Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening" (sic).


Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg
general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention
is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a
topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past.

Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ.

Janet

Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston
================================================== =================

PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion

I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I
can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to
a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than
no votes.

"Some" people are still against the formation of
uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a
total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are
"plots of land" not your common house "garden".

People with Allotments are more likely to use uk.rec.gardening.allotments
because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with
regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people
are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select
few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote.

================================================== =================

That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either
here or in unnc.
For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the
claim that (of the people who took part),

"Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening" (sic).


Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg
general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention
is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a
topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past.

Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ.

Janet

"Neil Jones" wrote in message
...

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in
message ...
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
words:

I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in
uk.net.news.config.
What date and what title should I see?

1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments

Ah. Too late, I see.


Too late? The voting has only just started...

How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to
this in ok.net.news.config?

Franz

"martin" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"

It is in uk.net.news.announce and it should have been posted here too

I don't see it in uk.net.news.announce and I don't see it in urg either.
What is going on?

Franz