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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:05:50 GMT, Janet Baraclough ..
wrote: Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston ================================================= ================== PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than no votes. "Some" people are still against the formation of uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are "plots of land" not your common house "garden". People with Allotments are more likely to use uk.rec.gardening.allotments because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote. ================================================= ================== That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either here or in unnc. For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the claim that (of the people who took part), "Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening" (sic). He totally ignored all the negative comments made to his proposed charter. Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past. Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ. Vote NO! -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:05:50 GMT, Janet Baraclough ..
wrote: Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston ================================================= ================== PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than no votes. "Some" people are still against the formation of uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are "plots of land" not your common house "garden". People with Allotments are more likely to use uk.rec.gardening.allotments because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote. ================================================= ================== That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either here or in unnc. For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the claim that (of the people who took part), "Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening" (sic). He totally ignored all the negative comments made to his proposed charter. Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past. Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ. Vote NO! -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
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Hash: SHA1 Franz Heymann said: "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to this in ok.net.news.config? The CFV appears to not have reached some news servers. It *was* posted to uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening under Message-ID: I see someone has copied the CFV into urg elsewhere in this thread. That copy is the same as posted to unna/unnc/urg for the avoidance of doubt *Read it before requesting a ballot paper*. Ballot paper is available by emailing which is the follow-up on the original CFV. Posts not propagating properly is a fact of life on Usenet. This post PGP signed as owner of dontspame.com - -- Pedt (Votetaker, uk.rec.gardening.allotments) Speaking as a member of, but not on behalf of, UKVoting -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk 2.0.5 iQA/AwUBQDt82FTbLaKOkibCEQJbRACg0sXrtEuvYC8ufNElk2Db+u H3c70An29n eEkZXw6AOCk3sq8GRG4pBhOf =REJj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:05:50 GMT, Janet Baraclough ..
wrote: Quote from start of thread: The Proponent is Gary Poston ================================================= ================== PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion I've not taken part in the discussion but monitored it and think I can win. On monitoring the threads for the last 10 days and come to a conclusion that I expect to have at least 12 more yes votes than no votes. "Some" people are still against the formation of uk.rec.gardening.allotments. "Most" believe that "Allotments" are a total different issue to "Gardening" for example; Allotments are "plots of land" not your common house "garden". People with Allotments are more likely to use uk.rec.gardening.allotments because this will be more common to them and would cut bandwidth with regards to uk.rec.gardening general gardening threads. A lot of people are in favour of an uk.rec.gardening.allotments newsgroup, a select few "beg to differ" or are in two minds which way to vote. ================================================= ================== That "summary" does not tally with my reading of the discussion either here or in unnc. For instance, I saw nothing in the public discussion to support the claim that (of the people who took part), "Most" believe allotments are a total different issue to gardening" (sic). He totally ignored all the negative comments made to his proposed charter. Urglers should note Gary's final para about "cutting bandwidth to urg general gardening threads". In other words his stated aim and intention is that his new group will reduce the number of postings to urg on a topic that has often enriched urg gardening discussions in the past. Is that good for uk.rec.gardening? I beg to differ. Vote NO! -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to this in ok.net.news.config? Franz I don't know precisely why you haven't seen it but the call for votes was cross posted to the various groups rather than (as is implied in the message) being posted to each group individually. Maybe you filter crossposts? No, I don't. I guess I will just have to wait for a day or two to see what gives. How long is the voting period likely to last? Franz |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to this in ok.net.news.config? Franz I don't know precisely why you haven't seen it but the call for votes was cross posted to the various groups rather than (as is implied in the message) being posted to each group individually. Maybe you filter crossposts? No, I don't. I guess I will just have to wait for a day or two to see what gives. How long is the voting period likely to last? Franz |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to this in ok.net.news.config? Franz I don't know precisely why you haven't seen it but the call for votes was cross posted to the various groups rather than (as is implied in the message) being posted to each group individually. Maybe you filter crossposts? No, I don't. I guess I will just have to wait for a day or two to see what gives. How long is the voting period likely to last? Franz |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
"Pedt" "\"@ wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Franz Heymann said: "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to this in ok.net.news.config? The CFV appears to not have reached some news servers. It *was* posted to uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening under Message-ID: I see someone has copied the CFV into urg elsewhere in this thread. That copy is the same as posted to unna/unnc/urg for the avoidance of doubt *Read it before requesting a ballot paper*. Ballot paper is available by emailing which is the follow-up on the original CFV. Posts not propagating properly is a fact of life on Usenet. This post PGP signed as owner of dontspame.com Many thanks for the info. Franz |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
"Pedt" "\"@ wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Franz Heymann said: "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to this in ok.net.news.config? The CFV appears to not have reached some news servers. It *was* posted to uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening under Message-ID: I see someone has copied the CFV into urg elsewhere in this thread. That copy is the same as posted to unna/unnc/urg for the avoidance of doubt *Read it before requesting a ballot paper*. Ballot paper is available by emailing which is the follow-up on the original CFV. Posts not propagating properly is a fact of life on Usenet. This post PGP signed as owner of dontspame.com Many thanks for the info. Franz |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
"Pedt" "\"@ wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Franz Heymann said: "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... How can it have started if I have not yet seen any reference whatsoever to this in ok.net.news.config? The CFV appears to not have reached some news servers. It *was* posted to uk.net.news.announce, uk.net.news.config, uk.rec.gardening under Message-ID: I see someone has copied the CFV into urg elsewhere in this thread. That copy is the same as posted to unna/unnc/urg for the avoidance of doubt *Read it before requesting a ballot paper*. Ballot paper is available by emailing which is the follow-up on the original CFV. Posts not propagating properly is a fact of life on Usenet. This post PGP signed as owner of dontspame.com Many thanks for the info. Franz |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:11:58 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: ~The message ~from (jane) contains these words: ~ ~ This is the first notification of the CFV I've seen. How does one vote ~ please? ~ ~Will be if you're using Demon's news server: it's been more-or-less dead ~for two days. Allegedly. I'm surprised you got the OP. ~ I use bt's, sadly, thanks to the adsl gateway... Though I switched to use freenews.netfront.net to see if it's any better. Certainly it received 180 more posts than bt: admittedly I had to plonk half of them! I have to revert to bt to post though. -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 12:11:58 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: ~The message ~from (jane) contains these words: ~ ~ This is the first notification of the CFV I've seen. How does one vote ~ please? ~ ~Will be if you're using Demon's news server: it's been more-or-less dead ~for two days. Allegedly. I'm surprised you got the OP. ~ I use bt's, sadly, thanks to the adsl gateway... Though I switched to use freenews.netfront.net to see if it's any better. Certainly it received 180 more posts than bt: admittedly I had to plonk half of them! I have to revert to bt to post though. -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
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from "Neil Jones" contains these words: "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... Too late for pointing anyone at where to look. I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:06:56 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from "Neil Jones" contains these words: "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: I see nothing relating to the allotments issue in uk.net.news.config. What date and what title should I see? 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments Ah. Too late, I see. Too late? The voting has only just started... Too late for pointing anyone at where to look. I'd be surprised if voting has begun - the 'papers' have to be sent out yet. I voted yesterday. I may vote again tomorrow. -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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