On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:41:01 GMT, Janet Baraclough..
wrote:

.have you read the weekly help post called abcfor newcomers to
uk.rec.gardening? It will direct you to some useful FAQ's

I have not seen the FAQs for ages. (last one 18/10/03)
I use Free Agent. Any long messages require me to "press enter" but I
have been looking out for the FAQs and not seen them'
Where am I going wrong?

Pam in Bristol

On Sun, 02 May 2004 09:59:29 +0100, Pam Moore
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:41:01 GMT, Janet Baraclough..
wrote:

.have you read the weekly help post called abcfor newcomers to
uk.rec.gardening? It will direct you to some useful FAQ's

I have not seen the FAQs for ages. (last one 18/10/03)
I use Free Agent. Any long messages require me to "press enter" but I
have been looking out for the FAQs and not seen them'
Where am I going wrong?

It is posted as abc for newcomers to uk.rec.gardening

I have copied it ..........

For detailed information on this newsgroup you are recommended to
read the charter for uk.rec.gardening at:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.gardening.html

There are a number of FAQ files (answers to Frequently Asked
Questions) which have been put together by the contributors
to this group and are available at:

http://www.nugget.demon.co.uk/MetaFAQ/index.html

If you are new to this group and have a particular question you
want to ask, do take a look at the FAQs first to see if your
question has been covered. The FAQs will usually give a more
comprehensive answer than is possible in a newsgroup article.

Now a little more information about the aims of uk.rec.gardening,
which we would ask you to read whether you are new to newsgroups
or an old hand. Note particularly the request not to post photographs.

Uk.rec.gardening is based in the British Isles for the discussion
of gardening within those islands. Some here are quite experienced
gardeners, others are (or were when they first joined urg) complete
beginners. It is an unmoderated self-help group and is not owned or
dominated by anyone.

If you are a newcomer (newbie) or a "lurker" (someone who reads but
has so far not posted anything), you are invited to introduce
yourself (though don't make it a reply to this thread - start a new
thread). Please do not feel any obligation to do this, but telling us
a little about yourself and, roughly, where you live, will help those
trying to answer your questions to give the best advice. Don't be
afraid of asking a question that you may fear is naive - remember,
we were all beginners once!

Sometimes people feel a little disappointed when they don't get an
answer to a question. There may be several reasons for this, the most
common ones being (1) no-one has the answer, (2) you didn't give a
clue in the subject header what your question was about, and (3) for
some reason the message did not get through. The best thing in the
last situation is to post the message once more. Urglers do try to
respond to new posters and no-one is deliberately ignored.

You may be puzzled by references to "urg" and "urglers". It's simply
an acronym and means this newsgroup and contributors to it!

Contributors from outside the British Isles are not discouraged but,
because this newsgroup is intended to help gardeners in the British
Isles, it should be remembered that all questions and answers should
relate to a climate similar to that found in the British Isles. We
thank you for your cooperation in this.

Here are one or two pointers to help you if you are not familiar with
newsgroups:

(1) NEVER post binaries (photographs or illustrations) in urg. They
will be cancelled automatically by the Usenet watchdogs! The reason
is that many will complain about the length of time taken to download
such files. If you want people to see your photograph then post it on
your own web page and put a message in urg telling people where to
find
it.

(2) When you are replying to a message, it's a good idea to edit down
your quotes (snipping) to the point(s) that you are actually
addressing,
but be sure that you have kept enough in to make it intelligible!

(3) Think out what you want to say and try to make it as concise as
possible. A long message in a busy newsgroup runs the risk of losing
the
attention of readers.

Thank you for reading this and we hope that you will find
uk.rec.gardening a very helpful forum.

The message
from Pam Moore contains these words:

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:41:01 GMT, Janet Baraclough..
wrote:

.have you read the weekly help post called abcfor newcomers to
uk.rec.gardening? It will direct you to some useful FAQ's

I have not seen the FAQs for ages. (last one 18/10/03)
I use Free Agent. Any long messages require me to "press enter" but I
have been looking out for the FAQs and not seen them'
Where am I going wrong?

The FAQs themselves never appear here on the newsgroup, they are much
too long and numerous.

The post called "abc for newcomers to urg" appears every Saturday
without fail, and contains a link to the FAQS. If you are using an
offline newsreader, copy and paste the FAQS-link into your internet
browser.

If your newsreader isn't showing you the current abc post, you can
always find it online in www.google/group's archive of urg.

Janet.

"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in a message:
snip
The post called "abc for newcomers to urg" appears every Saturday
without fail, and contains a link to the FAQS. If you are using an
offline newsreader, copy and paste the FAQS-link into your internet
browser.

If your newsreader isn't showing you the current abc post, you can
always find it online in www.google/group's archive of urg.

---
I found the FAQs in Google Groups last week, but I'm blessed if I could
fiind *anything* about top posting Janet.

Bella

As I said, "abc for newcomers" has not appeared on my list since
18/10/03. I have been looking for it.
Still mystified.

Pam in Bristol

The message
from Pam Moore contains these words:

As I said, "abc for newcomers" has not appeared on my list since
18/10/03. I have been looking for it.
Still mystified.

It arrives in my downloads every week.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

In article Yrdlc.64$D9.54@newsfe1-win, Bella
writes
I found the FAQs in Google Groups last week, but I'm blessed if I could
fiind *anything* about top posting Janet.

Top or bottom posting is entirely optional anywhere on the Internet.

--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

On Sun, 2 May 2004 23:46:26 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from Pam Moore contains these words:

As I said, "abc for newcomers" has not appeared on my list since
18/10/03. I have been looking for it.
Still mystified.

It arrives in my downloads every week.

Yeah but Pam misoperates a kill file.
I wasted my time finding the last abc .. and reposting it for her. I
won't trouble again.

In article , Pam Moore
writes

As I said, "abc for newcomers" has not appeared on my list since
18/10/03. I have been looking for it.

Somebody else made the same complaint some time ago.
It had something to do with his/her 'blocks'.
I think she/he was blocking everything over a certain length and the abc
fell into that category. Are you sure one of your blocking rules isn't
doing the same thing as you seem to be the only person not receiving the
abc post?
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

Jaques d'Alltrades2/5/04 11:46
co.uk

The message
from Pam Moore contains these words:

As I said, "abc for newcomers" has not appeared on my list since
18/10/03. I have been looking for it.
Still mystified.

It arrives in my downloads every week.

And mine - every Saturday. From 'sysop' 'abc for newcomers to
uk.rec.gardening
http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.gardening.html
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

In message , Alan Gould
writes
Top or bottom posting is entirely optional anywhere on the Internet.

but deprecated in most (all?) guides to usenet

--
dave @ stejonda

On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:51:12 +0100, "dave @ stejonda"
wrote:

In message , Alan Gould
writes
Top or bottom posting is entirely optional anywhere on the Internet.

but deprecated in most (all?) guides to usenet

Not both surely? :-)

Some news groups only contain top posted messages, others only bottom
posted messages. It's normal to do what most others do in the group.

martin3/5/04 10:14

On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:51:12 +0100, "dave @ stejonda"
wrote:

In message , Alan Gould
writes
Top or bottom posting is entirely optional anywhere on the Internet.

but deprecated in most (all?) guides to usenet

Not both surely? :-)

Some news groups only contain top posted messages, others only bottom
posted messages. It's normal to do what most others do in the group.

Normal in this group is bottom posting because it's considered more logical.
Certainly I've seen arguments in groups about top posting, never about
bottom posting!
Some urglers don't bother to answer top posts.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

In message , martin
writes
On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:51:12 +0100, "dave @ stejonda"
wrote:
In message , Alan Gould
writes
Top or bottom posting is entirely optional anywhere on the Internet.

but deprecated in most (all?) guides to usenet

NYoets Tboottahl lsy!urely? :-)

Some news groups only contain top posted messages, others only bottom
posted messages. It's normal to do what most others do in the group.

True.

--
dave @ stejonda

On Mon, 03 May 2004 10:21:54 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

martin3/5/04 10:14


On Mon, 3 May 2004 09:51:12 +0100, "dave @ stejonda"
wrote:

In message , Alan Gould
writes
Top or bottom posting is entirely optional anywhere on the Internet.

but deprecated in most (all?) guides to usenet

Not both surely? :-)

Some news groups only contain top posted messages, others only bottom
posted messages. It's normal to do what most others do in the group.

Normal in this group is bottom posting because it's considered more logical.

I should have included that :-)

Certainly I've seen arguments in groups about top posting, never about
bottom posting!

Microsoft spit groups are all top posting.

Some urglers don't bother to answer top posts.

and quite correctly :-)