In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
@stejonda.freeuk.com writes

Ahhh, Ok - I asked in dist for you - the rule is the same and you (will
have) press(ed) F9 to enter the rule apparently.

Well, no, actually!
I clicked classify/kill/custom rule.
But having done that I can see that kill has f9 next to it so I can save
myself a few keystrokes next time ))))))

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I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
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"John Edgar" wrote in message
...
Why has this newsgroup been taken over by loonies who are not
interested in gardening in the U.K.?
John
In limine sapientiae

*******
Take heart! No! - it hasn't. I can prove it, - but disregard my advice for
the sake of your sanity.
Subscribe and download uk.politics misc. . That N.G is populated by masses
of weirdo nogs, misfits, sex miscreants,
insane trolls, argumentive uneducated Uni undisciplined dumb foul-mouthed
teenagers.... most of whom have completely and totally reversed all that
time honoured and proven tenets - especially shame, - and all that we have
been taught and had confirmed by living it ourselves.
I use outlook Express. It works, - although I have certain reservations, -
but I cull all the rubbish by simply highlighting and then pressing Delete
and confirm. The rubbish stays away until I Synchronise again.
The remedy is simple. They have to be starved of oxygen. So what to do?.
Delete if you can, but in the event, DO NOT answer them. They thrive on
reaction. Above all, do not let them touch your emotions, - be firm and
steel yourself to let it slide off like water off a ducks back.
It's the only way. I have been guilty sometimes of toying in idle moments
with them occasionally for sport, but what does that make me?.
I am too ashamed to answer my own question.
Doug.

In-adayadag, de-apumpthag,

********

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:01:20 +0100, "tuin man"
wrote:


"Kay" wrote in message
...
Kill file all posts which are cross posted to more than about 3 groups.

Done

Kill file all obvious trolls and posters whose addresses bear a curious
resemblance to regular posters.

Done

Kill file all ...servation threads.

Eh? What are servation threads?

Then
you'll find you just get the urg threads, and the group will look very
much like what you're used to.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

Dunno if it's an insult per say, but I note that a reply amongst this thread
was to someone who I had already kilfiled... and I'm sure it was for much
the same reasons as stated above, whilst adding foul language to that list.
I did find it laughable that someone would attack this NG on the grouds of
teaching "net nannies" a lesson.... now... if that in itself is not "net
nanny" behaviour....(and in this instance... with flashing neons)
I'm not pointing that out by way of wishing to engage in 'debate' with the
half wit. There would be no point. No futher proof of that is needed then to
point out that the troll demonstrated inconsistency of excuse. (Apart from
the wastefulness of engaging a troll!!)
Oh and this, or my next post might well be my last post...

How many times have we heard that promise! besides what would you do
for attention you prick.

Shut the **** up, we had mabbetry here.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:56:52 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 15/7/04 1:34 pm, in article ,
"John Edgar" wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:27:51 +0100, Alan Gould
wrote:

In article , John Edgar
writes
Why has this newsgroup been taken over by loonies who are not
interested in gardening in the U.K.?

You could help to redress the balance by posting on topic.


OK, maybe I should have said "OT." Sorry. It seems like a reasonable
question for someone like me who has followed this NG for a couple of
years with much pleasure. Now it is all going pear-shaped. Maybe
someone will set up another gardening NG for us?
John
In limine sapientiae

Why and who? Do you mean a moderated group and if so, are you willing to be
moderator? And are you sure enough urglers want to be in a moderated group?
Bit of a thankless task I would imagine.
Giving these juvenile idiots attention and group discussion space simply
gives them what they want. Ignore them or killfile them.

Richard Aston, a member of the UK Usenet Committee has provided
software that automatically removes troll messages for
uk.local.yorkshire.moderated newsgroup and others, it has worked very
well so far.
--
Martin

"Kay" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Kill file all posts which are cross posted to more than about 3
groups.

How do you do this if you are using Outlook Express?

[snip]

Franz

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:06:55 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Kay" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Kill file all posts which are cross posted to more than about 3
groups.

How do you do this if you are using Outlook Express?

[snip]

or Agent?
--
Martin

"B Z Bee" wrote in message

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:25:28 +0100, "Douglas"
wrote:


"John Edgar" wrote in message
...
Why has this newsgroup been taken over by loonies who are not
interested in gardening in the U.K.?
John
In limine sapientiae

*******
Take heart! No! - it hasn't. I can prove it, - but disregard my
advice for the sake of your sanity.
Subscribe and download uk.politics misc. . That N.G is populated by
masses of weirdo nogs, misfits, sex miscreants,
insane trolls, argumentive uneducated Uni undisciplined dumb
foul-mouthed teenagers.... most of whom have completely and totally
reversed all that time honoured and proven tenets - especially
shame, - and all that we have been taught and had confirmed by
living it ourselves.
I use outlook Express. It works, - although I have certain
reservations, - but I cull all the rubbish by simply highlighting
and then pressing Delete and confirm. The rubbish stays away until
I Synchronise again.
The remedy is simple. They have to be starved of oxygen. So what to
do?. Delete if you can, but in the event, DO NOT answer them. They
thrive on reaction. Above all, do not let them touch your emotions,

LOL too late for Michael saunby aka J Edgar, he's been fried, cooked
and hung out to dry. Our best troll bait yet.

- be firm and
steel yourself to let it slide off like water off a ducks back.

Ruddy ducks?

It's the only way. I have been guilty sometimes of toying in idle
moments with them occasionally for sport, but what does that make
me?.
I am too ashamed to answer my own question.
Doug.

Shame on you, the vicar may be able to save you from damnation.

The Vicar is on a well earned break at the moment. Anyone in need of
spiritual guidance should repeat "Hail the Parsnip" four times, click
their heels, and down a large glass of spirits. (He often recommends Jack
Daniels but I'm a rum man myself.)

HTH.
Signed,

The Verger (part-time)

In message ,
writes
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:06:55 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:
"Kay" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Kill file all posts which are cross posted to more than about 3
groups.

How do you do this if you are using Outlook Express?

[snip]

or Agent?

Having done a Google search of the www.forteinc.com domain it appears
that neither Agent nor Free Agent are able to filter out cross-posted
articles.

The only time cross-post is mentioned is in the feature comparison table
- "Cross-Post Management - Agent automatically recognizes when the same
message is posted in more than one newsgroup so you can avoid
downloading and viewing the same message twice."

Us Turnpike users will just have to keep quiet I guess. ;-)

--
dave @ stejonda
Bring culture back to NTL.
http://www.performance-channel.com/

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:46:09 +0100, Jane Ransom
wrote:

In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
writes

Us Turnpike users will just have to keep quiet I guess. ;-)

So how does one do it, Dave?


Easy, put a sock in it.
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Newsgroup ettiquette

1) Tell everyone the Trolls don't bother you.
2) Say you've killfiled them, yet continue to respond.
3) Tell other people off who repsond despite doing so yourself.
4) Continually talk about Trolls while maintaining
they're having no effect.
5) Publicly post killfile rules so the Trolls know
how to avoid them.
6) Make lame legal threats and other barrel scraping
manoeuvres when your abuse reports are ignored.
7) Eat vast quantities of pies.
8) Forget to brush your teeth for several decades.
9) Help a demon.local poster with their email while
secretly reading it.
10) Pretend you're a hard ******* when in fact you're
as bent as a roundabout.
11) Become the laughing stock of Usenet like Mabbet
12) Die of old age
13) Keep paying Dr Chartham his fees and hope one day you
will have a penis the girls can see.

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"Hamish" wrote in message


Only thing is the net nanny trolls don't really want a solution, in
fact out of three so called troll posts, net nannies made 75 replies
about how well their filters work, bla, bla, bla. It's the attention
they crave and a classic case of do as I say, not as I do, sadly.

Yup. You have just given a perfect description of the demon.local Old
Skool.

Just tell them to **** off.

**** off.

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In message , Jane Ransom
writes
In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
writes

Us Turnpike users will just have to keep quiet I guess. ;-)

So how does one do it, Dave?

I use the custom rule

/^Newsgroups:.*,/h

The result of this is that TP never even downloads the bodies of
cross-posted articles unless I request them.

However Jane, I see that you're using v4.02, whereas I'm using v6.02
which is a teeny bit different. I'm sure v4.02 had this capability (I
even think that v1.12 had it), but I'm not sure where you'd insert the
rule in v4.02.

The best place to ask will be d.i.s.t where I can see that John Stockton
is still using v4.00 and Richard Clayton is still using v5.01 which is
only slightly different from your version. Both of these fine people
(and perhaps others) will be able to give you a definite answer.

--
dave @ stejonda taking a break from cutting the 'lawn'

In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
@stejonda.freeuk.com writes
In message , Jane Ransom
writes
In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
writes

Us Turnpike users will just have to keep quiet I guess. ;-)

So how does one do it, Dave?

I use the custom rule

/^Newsgroups:.*,/h

The result of this is that TP never even downloads the bodies of
cross-posted articles unless I request them.

However Jane, I see that you're using v4.02, whereas I'm using v6.02
which is a teeny bit different. I'm sure v4.02 had this capability (I
even think that v1.12 had it), but I'm not sure where you'd insert the
rule in v4.02.

The best place to ask will be d.i.s.t where I can see that John Stockton
is still using v4.00 and Richard Clayton is still using v5.01 which is
only slightly different from your version. Both of these fine people
(and perhaps others) will be able to give you a definite answer.

I'm using 5.01 and using the same rule as you.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
@stejonda.freeuk.com writes
So how does one do it, Dave?

I use the custom rule

/^Newsgroups:.*,/h

The result of this is that TP never even downloads the bodies of
cross-posted articles unless I request them.

However Jane, I see that you're using v4.02, whereas I'm using v6.02
which is a teeny bit different. I'm sure v4.02 had this capability (I
even think that v1.12 had it), but I'm not sure where you'd insert the
rule in v4.02.

Well, I have tried sticking the above in custom rules for this group so
we'll see what happens next time I download!!!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

In message , Jane Ransom
writes
In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
writes
So how does one do it, Dave?

I use the custom rule

/^Newsgroups:.*,/h

The result of this is that TP never even downloads the bodies of
cross-posted articles unless I request them.

However Jane, I see that you're using v4.02, whereas I'm using v6.02
which is a teeny bit different. I'm sure v4.02 had this capability (I
even think that v1.12 had it), but I'm not sure where you'd insert the
rule in v4.02.

Well, I have tried sticking the above in custom rules for this group so
we'll see what happens next time I download!!!!

Ahhh, Ok - I asked in dist for you - the rule is the same and you (will
have) press(ed) F9 to enter the rule apparently.

--
dave @ stejonda
Bring culture back to NTL.
http://www.performance-channel.com/

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:18:59 +0100, Jane Ransom wrote:

In article , dave @ stejonda NoSpamThanks
writes
So how does one do it, Dave?

I use the custom rule

/^Newsgroups:.*,/h

The result of this is that TP never even downloads the bodies of
cross-posted articles unless I request them.

However Jane, I see that you're using v4.02, whereas I'm using v6.02
which is a teeny bit different. I'm sure v4.02 had this capability (I
even think that v1.12 had it), but I'm not sure where you'd insert the
rule in v4.02.

Well, I have tried sticking the above in custom rules for this group so
we'll see what happens next time I download!!!!


This post is off topic troll shit and against the group charter.
Please **** off.








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+------------------------+
| | |
| | | |
..| |.. .| |..
...\| |/.... \| |/..











**********************************************




'You can't win 'em all.'
Lord Haw Haw.

Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
I am in the top 0.217% richest people in the world.
There are 5,986,950,449 people poorer than me

If you're really interested I am the 13,049,551
richest person in the world.

And I'm keeping the bloody lot.

So sue me.

http://www.globalrichlist.com/

Newsgroup ettiquette

1) Tell everyone the Trolls don't bother you.
2) Say you've killfiled them, yet continue to respond.
3) Tell other people off who repsond despite doing so yourself.
4) Continually talk about Trolls while maintaining
they're having no effect.
5) Publicly post killfile rules so the Trolls know
how to avoid them.
6) Make lame legal threats and other barrel scraping
manoeuvres when your abuse reports are ignored.
7) Eat vast quantities of pies.
8) Forget to brush your teeth for several decades.
9) Help a demon.local poster with their email while
secretly reading it.
10) Pretend you're a hard ******* when in fact you're
as bent as a roundabout.
11) Become the laughing stock of Usenet like Mabbet
12) Die of old age
13) Keep paying Dr Chartham his fees and hope one day you
will have a penis the girls can see.

---------------------------------------

"If you would'nt talk to them in a bar, don't *uckin' vote for them"

"Australia was not *discovered* it was invaded"
The Big Yin.

Need a fake diploma for fun? contact my collegues Malcolm Ogilvie
or Michael Saunby who both bought one and got one free, only $15 each,
have as many as you like www.fakediplomas.com