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To polytunnel or not?
We are thinking about buying a 10x10 polytunnel for our new garden -
this is the largest we can fit into space available. It will be situated on the southerly side of our home, and will get no shade at all during the height of summer, but some shade in depths of winter. The other option is, of course, a greenhouse, about 8x8 which we could put up against the south facing wall of the house. This would get exactly the same growing conditions, except that it would probably get less shade in winter. Both could be exposed to some of the gales that can blow in the valley where we live. Here on the Isle of Arran we don't get too much snow and the winter temperatures on the whole are fairly kind. Is there anybody out there living in Scotland who has a polytunnel and can give us any advice or information? Is there maybe a helpful website or two? Perhaps there's a good local supplier/manufacturer we can talk to? Thanks a lot -- Susie Thompson SPAM BLOCK IN OPERATION! Replace "deadspam.com" with "arrandragons.co.uk" to reply by e-mail. |
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from "Phil L" contains these words: David Hill wrote: :: Remember if you have a lean-to greenhouse then your house wall :: will retain some of the days heat and help to keep the night temp. :: up a degree or so in the winter. :: Also it will be easier to get electric into it if you want to. Now I think I understand what happened in the 'moisture sensor' thread - you are replying to the original poster, but tacking it onto the last post in the thread, thereby replying in this instance, not to Susie as you intended to, but compo. You are mistaken, Phil. The fact that David's post appears on your screen directly beneath Compo's does not mean that he was replying to Compo (usenet threads don't work like that) nor does it mean he "tacked it on the end of the thread". David can't influence the order in which posts appear on your screen. You probably have your newsreader set to thread posts in chronological order. Janet |
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from SusieThompson contains these words: We are thinking about buying a 10x10 polytunnel for our new garden - The other option is, of course, a greenhouse,(snip) Both could be exposed to some of the gales that can blow in the valley where we live. Here on the Isle of Arran we don't get too much snow and the winter temperatures on the whole are fairly kind. We almost got stuck in drifted snow on your road last winter; we got taken by surprise because there wasn't any at all over on our side or down on the W coast.GH roofs are better able to cope with the weight of snow, I think. Although there are polytunnels elsewhere on the island, I've not noticed any in your neck of the woods. It might be a good idea to ask locals if polytunnels can survive there. Janet. |
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"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message ... The message from "Phil L" contains these words: David Hill wrote: :: Remember if you have a lean-to greenhouse then your house wall :: will retain some of the days heat and help to keep the night temp. :: up a degree or so in the winter. :: Also it will be easier to get electric into it if you want to. Now I think I understand what happened in the 'moisture sensor' thread - you are replying to the original poster, but tacking it onto the last post in the thread, thereby replying in this instance, not to Susie as you intended to, but compo. You are mistaken, Phil. The fact that David's post appears on your screen directly beneath Compo's does not mean that he was replying to Compo (usenet threads don't work like that) nor does it mean he "tacked it on the end of the thread". David can't influence the order in which posts appear on your screen. On the other hand, if David did not make a habit of removing relevant headers, snipping without saying so and requoting context without attribution marks, his posts would have been easier to read. Having said that, I would emphasise that his posts are always very much worth reading. You probably have your newsreader set to thread posts in chronological order. Franz |
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In article , Janet Baraclough.. writes The message from SusieThompson contains these words: We are thinking about buying a 10x10 polytunnel for our new garden - The other option is, of course, a greenhouse,(snip) Both could be exposed to some of the gales that can blow in the valley where we live. Here on the Isle of Arran we don't get too much snow and the winter temperatures on the whole are fairly kind. We almost got stuck in drifted snow on your road last winter; we got taken by surprise because there wasn't any at all over on our side or down on the W coast.GH roofs are better able to cope with the weight of snow, I think. Although there are polytunnels elsewhere on the island, I've not noticed any in your neck of the woods. It might be a good idea to ask locals if polytunnels can survive there. I know of perhaps half a dozen polytunnels that have been blown away here on Islay over the years, but they should be covered by normal household insurance. I bought the very much stronger, though more expensive, solartunnel (www.solartunnels.co.uk) which the supplier told me was being used successfully on Orkney and Shetland. Not only is it so constructed that it is much less likely to blow away, but the plastic cover is a great deal tougher as it incorporates a mesh and so cannot tear. What you can grow is only limited by your imagination! Tomatoes, peppers, sweetcorn, salads, peppers, cucumbers, beans, winter cauliflower, carrots, etc., etc. I can recommend the book 'Gardening under plastic' by Bernard Salt (Batsford 1999) ISBN 0 7134 8448 9. -- Malcolm |
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Greenhouses are easier to kep cool in summer than polytunnels. Greenhouses are warmer in winter than the outside (not by much always) Polytunnels are colder in winter than the outside (not by much always) You cannot break the glass in a polytunnel. If the polythene goes, you have to replace the lot, not just one pane. |
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The message
from SusieThompson contains these words: We are thinking about buying a 10x10 polytunnel for our new garden - this is the largest we can fit into space available. It will be situated on the southerly side of our home, and will get no shade at all during the height of summer, but some shade in depths of winter. The other option is, of course, a greenhouse, Note to the original poster: A friend has been considering buying a large polytunnel for some time. He happened to pass a house the other day that had an old aluminium greenhouse in the untended garden. It was a large greenhouse and some of the glass was missing. He knocked on the house door and made an offer for the greenhouse. He got it for 60 UKP, a bargain! He then went to a DIY store and bought another greenhouse, smaller than the second hand one, (in order to make up space that he would have had in a large tunnel) and got home to find that they had given him the galss package for a much larger greenhouse. He now has enough glass to glaze both new and second hand greenhouses - lucky blighter! Anyway, point of the story is that there may be a good quality greenhouse or tunnel nearby that could be bought for a song. -- Cheers, Compo |
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In article , Peltigera
writes SusieThompson wrote: Is there anybody out there living in Scotland who has a polytunnel and can give us any advice or information? Is there maybe a helpful website or two? Perhaps there's a good local supplier/manufacturer we can talk to? Thanks a lot -- I do not know Scotland but some facts that might help you to decide: Greenhouses are easier to kep cool in summer than polytunnels. Greenhouses are warmer in winter than the outside (not by much always) Polytunnels are colder in winter than the outside (not by much always) You cannot break the glass in a polytunnel. If the polythene goes, you have to replace the lot, not just one pane. Well, I think that's why Susie specifically wanted advice from people in Scotland - she's aware of what you say, but wanted to know the chances of a polytunnel blowing away in Scotland's high winds. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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The message
from SusieThompson contains these words: We are thinking about buying a 10x10 polytunnel for our new garden - this is the largest we can fit into space available. It will be situated on the southerly side of our home, and will get no shade at all during the height of summer, but some shade in depths of winter. The other option is, of course, a greenhouse, Note to the original poster: A friend has been considering buying a large polytunnel for some time. He happened to pass a house the other day that had an old aluminium greenhouse in the untended garden. It was a large greenhouse and some of the glass was missing. He knocked on the house door and made an offer for the greenhouse. He got it for 60 UKP, a bargain! He then went to a DIY store and bought another greenhouse, smaller than the second hand one, (in order to make up space that he would have had in a large tunnel) and got home to find that they had given him the galss package for a much larger greenhouse. He now has enough glass to glaze both new and second hand greenhouses - lucky blighter! Anyway, point of the story is that there may be a good quality greenhouse or tunnel nearby that could be bought for a song. -- Cheers, Compo |
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from "Phil L" contains these words: No, his reply was to me and not to the OP. My reply was directed to the original poster, I know nothing of the senor thread. I assume that David was not reponding to my post but someone else's :-) Does it really matter anyway? Confused, Compo. |
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To polytunnel or not?
To whom it may concern.
For polytunnels in the UK try http://www.firsttunnels.co.uk/ http://www.northernpolytunnels.co.uk/hobby5.htm -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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To polytunnel or not?
To whom it may concern.
For polytunnels in the UK try http://www.firsttunnels.co.uk/ http://www.northernpolytunnels.co.uk/hobby5.htm -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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David Hill wrote:
:: Phil L wrote ".......Now I think I understand what happened in :: the 'moisture sensor' thread - you are replying to the original :: poster, but tacking it onto the last post in the thread, thereby :: replying in this instance, not to Susie as you intended to, but :: compo....and *sometimes* it makes no sense and causes confusion, :: not helped by your oversnipping! ........" :: :: What the hell are you blathering on about? Your reply in this thread: "Remember if you have a lean-to greenhouse then your house wall will retain some of the days heat and help to keep the night temp. up a degree or so in the winter. Also it will be easier to get electric into it if you want to." Was in reply to Compo and not to the original poster...if it had been it would have been directly under theirs....subsequently, it makes no sense as far as compo is concerned, but it does to the OP. :: :: I snipped nothing. You snipped everything - it's always beter to leave some of the text in the post you are replying to, and if that person is the OP, then after you've read the replies, go back to the first one in the thread (the OP) and click reply group - this is what happened in the moisture sensor thread when you told me that my garden must be miniscule or very strange if it all needed watering at the same time, but it wasn't meant for me was it? |
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"Kay" wrote in message ... In article , Peltigera writes SusieThompson wrote: Is there anybody out there living in Scotland who has a polytunnel and can give us any advice or information? Is there maybe a helpful website or two? Perhaps there's a good local supplier/manufacturer we can talk to? Thanks a lot -- I do not know Scotland but some facts that might help you to decide: Greenhouses are easier to kep cool in summer than polytunnels. Greenhouses are warmer in winter than the outside (not by much always) Polytunnels are colder in winter than the outside (not by much always) You cannot break the glass in a polytunnel. If the polythene goes, you have to replace the lot, not just one pane. Well, I think that's why Susie specifically wanted advice from people in Scotland - she's aware of what you say, but wanted to know the chances of a polytunnel blowing away in Scotland's high winds. There is an enormous polytunnel at Applecross which has, for many years, done sterling service as a "protected alfresco" restaurant attached to a camp site. Franz |
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"Kay" wrote in message ... In article , Peltigera writes SusieThompson wrote: Is there anybody out there living in Scotland who has a polytunnel and can give us any advice or information? Is there maybe a helpful website or two? Perhaps there's a good local supplier/manufacturer we can talk to? Thanks a lot -- I do not know Scotland but some facts that might help you to decide: Greenhouses are easier to kep cool in summer than polytunnels. Greenhouses are warmer in winter than the outside (not by much always) Polytunnels are colder in winter than the outside (not by much always) You cannot break the glass in a polytunnel. If the polythene goes, you have to replace the lot, not just one pane. Well, I think that's why Susie specifically wanted advice from people in Scotland - she's aware of what you say, but wanted to know the chances of a polytunnel blowing away in Scotland's high winds. There is an enormous polytunnel at Applecross which has, for many years, done sterling service as a "protected alfresco" restaurant attached to a camp site. Franz |
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