Hey, didn't meen to spark an argument!!

But thanks lads. I'll go for Roundup and leave it a good while to
dissipate.

Steve.


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:48:11 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

Martin wrote:
:: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:18:33 GMT, "Phil L"
:: wrote:
::
::: Franz Heymann wrote:
::::: "Steve Harris" wrote in message
::::: ...
:::::: In article ,
:::::: (Steve) wrote:
::::::
::::::: Is there a generic eqivalent I might buy?
::::::
:::::: Look for weedkillers mentioning glyphosphate as an ingredient.
::::::
::::::: And where from?
::::::
:::::: Garden Centres, etc.
:::::
::::: But make sure you compare like with like when looking at prices.
::::: The stuff is being marketed at various concentrations.
:::::
::: Yep!
::: B&Q do their own glyphosate weedkiller ready to use...it's a
::: really weak solution though....I don't know of anyone who does it
::: the same concentration as 'Roundup' itself.
::
:: Does the B&Q concentration work?
::

Not as good as the 'real' thing...I've found that dandelions (the bane of
my
life!) needed two applications of the b&q stuff, but only one good dose
of
roundup - it worked out cheaper to buy roundup in the long run.

Thanks, that's what I suspected.

--
Martin

Steve wrote:
:: Hey, didn't meen to spark an argument!!
::
:: But thanks lads. I'll go for Roundup and leave it a good while to
:: dissipate.
::
:: Steve.

TBH, I only use it on dandelions and occasionally thistles, everything else
I have is easy to get out by hand.
Roundup is useful for, dandelions, thistles and docks, all of which have
deep roots, any part which is left in will produce another plant.
if you have these weeds, I wouldn't bother with it:

Nettles: easy to get out and their roots are bright yellow...Alan gave some
excellent pointers on how to make the tops into a 'nettle manure'...details
he http://www.nugget.demon.co.uk/MetaFAQ/nettle.html

Brambles: Fairly easy to cut back and dig out the roots manually.

Grasses: as above, or turn the sods upside down now to let them rot down
over winter.

other 'flimsy' weeds like chickweed etc can just be turned in.

The message
from "Phil L" contains these words:

other 'flimsy' weeds like chickweed etc can just be turned in.

Or in the case of chickweed, incorporated into salads...

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

"Steve" wrote in message
.uk...
Hey, didn't meen to spark an argument!!

But thanks lads. I'll go for Roundup and leave it a good while to
dissipate.

Steve.


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:48:11 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

Martin wrote:
:: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:18:33 GMT, "Phil L"
:: wrote:
::
::: Franz Heymann wrote:
::::: "Steve Harris" wrote in message
::::: ...
:::::: In article ,
:::::: (Steve) wrote:
::::::
::::::: Is there a generic eqivalent I might buy?
::::::
:::::: Look for weedkillers mentioning glyphosphate as an ingredient.
::::::
::::::: And where from?
::::::
:::::: Garden Centres, etc.
:::::
::::: But make sure you compare like with like when looking at prices.
::::: The stuff is being marketed at various concentrations.
:::::
::: Yep!
::: B&Q do their own glyphosate weedkiller ready to use...it's a
::: really weak solution though....I don't know of anyone who does it
::: the same concentration as 'Roundup' itself.
::
:: Does the B&Q concentration work?
::

Not as good as the 'real' thing...I've found that dandelions (the bane
of
my
life!) needed two applications of the b&q stuff, but only one good dose
of
roundup - it worked out cheaper to buy roundup in the long run.

Thanks, that's what I suspected.

--
Martin

Agent Orange works well but does leave a lousy aftertaste. (And damages
offspring)

"Steve" wrote in message
.uk...
Hey, didn't meen to spark an argument!!

But thanks lads. I'll go for Roundup and leave it a good while to
dissipate.

[snip]

Wait till you see what an argument in urg actually is. {:-))

I think we are all exploring the topic to really find out if the
running out of the patent on Monsanto's roundup is, or is not,
actually putting cheaper products on the market. So far it is
dubious.

Franz

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Steve" wrote in message
.uk...
Hey, didn't meen to spark an argument!!

But thanks lads. I'll go for Roundup and leave it a good while to
dissipate.

[snip]

Wait till you see what an argument in urg actually is. {:-))

I think we are all exploring the topic to really find out if the
running out of the patent on Monsanto's roundup is, or is not,
actually putting cheaper products on the market. So far it is
dubious.

There have been lots of generic roundups available cheaper for a while.
Roundup has changed to Roundup Ultra, with a changed surfactant, I believe.

--
Anton

"anton" wrote in message
...

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Steve" wrote in message
.uk...
Hey, didn't meen to spark an argument!!

But thanks lads. I'll go for Roundup and leave it a good while
to
dissipate.

[snip]

Wait till you see what an argument in urg actually is. {:-))

I think we are all exploring the topic to really find out if the
running out of the patent on Monsanto's roundup is, or is not,
actually putting cheaper products on the market. So far it is
dubious.

There have been lots of generic roundups available cheaper for a
while.

The only ones I have come across which were significantly cheaper,
were so only because they were less concentrated than Roundup.
If you would quote the name of one of these cheaper ones, I would
definitely keep a look out for it.

Roundup has changed to Roundup Ultra, with a changed surfactant, I
believe.

Franz

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"anton" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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There have been lots of generic roundups available cheaper for a
while.

The only ones I have come across which were significantly cheaper,
were so only because they were less concentrated than Roundup.
If you would quote the name of one of these cheaper ones, I would
definitely keep a look out for it.


Nufarm 'Clinic' herbicide, for instance- from memory, about £25 for 5litres
with about 30-odd percent glyphosate, 40-odd percent glyphosate salt, 50-odd
percent solids including surfactant. Ag. suppliers will all have a generic
roundup, but you might need to buy 5 litres.

--
Anton

"anton" wrote in message
...

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"anton" wrote in message
...

"Franz Heymann" wrote in
message
...


There have been lots of generic roundups available cheaper for a
while.

The only ones I have come across which were significantly cheaper,
were so only because they were less concentrated than Roundup.
If you would quote the name of one of these cheaper ones, I would
definitely keep a look out for it.


Nufarm 'Clinic' herbicide, for instance- from memory, about £25 for
5litres
with about 30-odd percent glyphosate, 40-odd percent glyphosate
salt, 50-odd
percent solids including surfactant. Ag. suppliers will all have a
generic
roundup, but you might need to buy 5 litres.

Many thanks. I'll look in at a convenirnt ag shop.

Franz