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Vinegar is not a poison.

It is if you are a weed. The active ingredient is definately a poison.
Is it an acceptable herbicide for the "organic" producer?

Vinegar is not mentioned in the guidelines for organic weed control.
If it is a poisonous herbicide as you say, then it is not acceptable,
along with all spray type chemical weed-killers.
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Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

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Alan Gould wrote:
In article , IntarsiaCo
writes
Vinegar is not a poison.

It is if you are a weed. The active ingredient is definately a poison.
Is it an acceptable herbicide for the "organic" producer?

Vinegar is not mentioned in the guidelines for organic weed control.
If it is a poisonous herbicide as you say, then it is not acceptable,
along with all spray type chemical weed-killers.

Such as extract of macerated walnut leaves?

Regarding vinegar and walnut leaf extract as "not organic" is most
definitely making a religion out of what is, at least basically,
a scientific approach.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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In article ,
Alan Gould wrote:
In article , IntarsiaCo
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Vinegar is not a poison.

It is if you are a weed. The active ingredient is definately a poison.
Is it an acceptable herbicide for the "organic" producer?

Vinegar is not mentioned in the guidelines for organic weed control.
If it is a poisonous herbicide as you say, then it is not acceptable,
along with all spray type chemical weed-killers.

Such as extract of macerated walnut leaves?

Are you saying I can use wanmut leaves as a weedkiller?

How do you use ir for that purpose?

I have about 5 CWT of leaves every year!

Alan
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
Alan Gould wrote:
In article , IntarsiaCo
writes
Vinegar is not a poison.

It is if you are a weed. The active ingredient is definately a poison.
Is it an acceptable herbicide for the "organic" producer?

Vinegar is not mentioned in the guidelines for organic weed control.
If it is a poisonous herbicide as you say, then it is not acceptable,
along with all spray type chemical weed-killers.

Such as extract of macerated walnut leaves?

Are you saying I can use wanmut leaves as a weedkiller?

Pretty much. Active ingredient "juglone" (sp?) severely restricts the
range of plants that will grow within the root run of walnut trees. Some
trees are more effective at chemical weaponry than others.

How do you use ir for that purpose?

I have about 5 CWT of leaves every year!

Be careful where you use it as a mulch! Eventually it rots down to
harmless leaf mould but it does have some herbicidal properties in the
meantime. It would be a very good idea to check the MSDS for the active
ingredient before trying to make a concentrated extract.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Vinegar is not mentioned in the guidelines for organic weed control.
If it is a poisonous herbicide as you say, then it is not acceptable,
along with all spray type chemical weed-killers.

Who made up these silly guidelines? Are they meant to be followed blindly?

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Who made up these silly guidelines? Are they meant to be followed blindly?

Organic regulations begin at EU level and are aimed at protecting
organic produce and its consumers from abuse. HM UK Govt have appointed
UKROFS [United Kingdom Register of Organic Food Standards] as a
regulatory body to oversee the application of the regulations.
UKROFS has appointed a number of certification bodies, including Soil
Association at Bristol to monitor certifications, allocate authority to
use the approved organic symbol, carry out training, inspections etc.

The EU regulations are obligatory on commercial growers, who cannot
offer produce to the public as organic unless they have statutory
approval. They are not obligatory on recreational or non-commercial
growers, but those people cannot legally sell their produce to the
public as organic. HDRA have produced guidelines for recreational
gardeners who choose to follow organic principles and need some
guidance. Those guidelines follow the commercial regulations where they
apply, but do not include items like harvesting, marketing, transport,
storage, promotions etc.

Full details of arrangements for organic growing can be viewed in the
urg FAQ on organic gardening at:
http://www.nugget.demon.co.uk/MetaFA...gardening.html

HDRA: www.hdra.org.uk

HDRA/Chase Organic Gardening Catalogue: www.OrganicCatalog.com
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Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

Organic regulations begin at EU

That's quite a bureaucracy. How much does all this regulation cost the poor
consumer?

"IntarsiaCo" wrote in message
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Organic regulations begin at EU

That's quite a bureaucracy. How much does all this regulation cost
the poor
consumer?

Well may you ask. The whole exercise is a huge international con
trick.

Franz

In article , IntarsiaCo
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Organic regulations begin at EU

That's quite a bureaucracy. How much does all this regulation cost the poor
consumer?
It is one of the more positive parts of EU food and agriculture policy.
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Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"IntarsiaCo" wrote in message
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Organic regulations begin at EU

That's quite a bureaucracy. How much does all this regulation cost the
poor
consumer?

Their health!

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