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Old 19-10-2002, 05:20 PM
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We are moving to a beach side house in the near future and would like to
plant shrubs and trees that will thrive well on the Sussex Coast. Any
suggestions gratefully received. TIA
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Old 19-10-2002, 06:19 PM
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Val wrote in message ...
We are moving to a beach side house in the near future and would like to
plant shrubs and trees that will thrive well on the Sussex Coast. Any
suggestions gratefully received. TIA
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My Mum used to live a hundred yards or so from the Sussex Coast at Selsey.
I noticed that all the trees and some shrubs suffered from wind/salt spray
damage, and especially once they got above fence height. Her apple tree and
much shorter Arbutus unedo both used to show, what looked like, severe frost
damage in the spring.
One good hedging shrub that seemed to cope well was Escallonia but that's
not the most interesting of plants and needs clipping constantly if it's not
to get out of hand.

Other suggestions from RD Enc. of Garden plants and flowers...
Acer (T); Arbutus (T); Calluna (S); Caryopteris (S); Ceanothus (S);
Chaenomeles (S); Cordyline (T); Cotoneaster (S); Cupressus (T); Cytisus (S);
Eleagnus (S); Euonymus (S); Forsythia (S); Fuchsia (S); Garrya (S); Genista
(S); Griselinia (S); Helianthemum (S); Hippophae (S); Hydrangea (S);
Hypericum (S); Ilex (S); Juniperus (S.T); Lavandula (S); Ligustrum (S);
Lupinus arboreus (S); Olearia (S); Pittosporum (S); Potentilla (S);
Pyracantha (S); Rosmarinus (S); Santolina (S); Senecio (S); Spartium (S);
Spiraea (S); Tamarix (S); Ulex (S); Yucca (S).

Hope that list helps. :-)

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Old 19-10-2002, 06:25 PM
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"Aries" wrote:
We are moving to a beach side house in the near future and would like to
plant shrubs and trees that will thrive well on the Sussex Coast. Any
suggestions gratefully received. TIA


Already answered your post in england.rec.gardening.

FYI: multi-posting is considered to be quite irritating, think about the
people who are answering your question. they've just composed an answer for
you and then discover that the question has already been answered in another
newsgroup. if you really think you have to include several groups then
x-post instead.

from your point of view it means you will have to check several groups for
answers.

Further info at: http://www.hut.fi/u/jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

Good luck with your new garden

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Old 19-10-2002, 07:34 PM
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Sue & Bob Hobden wrote:
Val wrote in message ...
We are moving to a beach side house in the near future and would like to
plant shrubs and trees that will thrive well on the Sussex Coast. Any
suggestions gratefully received. TIA
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My Mum used to live a hundred yards or so from the Sussex Coast at Selsey.
I noticed that all the trees and some shrubs suffered from wind/salt spray
damage, and especially once they got above fence height. Her apple tree
and much shorter Arbutus unedo both used to show, what looked like,
severe frost damage in the spring.
One good hedging shrub that seemed to cope well was Escallonia but that's
not the most interesting of plants and needs clipping constantly if it's
not to get out of hand.

Other suggestions from RD Enc. of Garden plants and flowers...
Acer (T); Arbutus (T); Calluna (S); Caryopteris (S); Ceanothus (S);
Chaenomeles (S); Cordyline (T); Cotoneaster (S); Cupressus (T); Cytisus
(S); Eleagnus (S); Euonymus (S); Forsythia (S); Fuchsia (S); Garrya (S);
Genista (S); Griselinia (S); Helianthemum (S); Hippophae (S); Hydrangea
(S); Hypericum (S); Ilex (S); Juniperus (S.T); Lavandula (S); Ligustrum
(S); Lupinus arboreus (S); Olearia (S); Pittosporum (S); Potentilla (S);
Pyracantha (S); Rosmarinus (S); Santolina (S); Senecio (S); Spartium (S);
Spiraea (S); Tamarix (S); Ulex (S); Yucca (S).

Hope that list helps. :-)


Thank you so much Bob - I recognise some of the plants you suggest but the
others I will have to look up. Much appreciated


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Old 19-10-2002, 10:39 PM
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Xref: 127.0.0.1 uk.rec.gardening:160816

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:25:23 +0100, William Tasso wrote:

Already answered your post in england.rec.gardening.

FYI: multi-posting is considered to be quite irritating, think about the
people who are answering your question. they've just composed an answer for
you and then discover that the question has already been answered in another
newsgroup. if you really think you have to include several groups then
x-post instead.


You really are so clever !

How can us lesser beings ever hope to post correctly? If I have a similar
question to Val's I'll cross-post it to half a dozen groups in future -
just to make sure.

Thank you for your guidance.
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Old 19-10-2002, 11:00 PM
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We are moving to a beach side house in the near future and would like to
plant shrubs and trees that will thrive well on the Sussex Coast. Any
suggestions gratefully received. TIA


Snap...we're moving to a coastal garden on Arran. Here's a favourite
of mine among coastal garden websites; the garden in Ireland is a milder
climate than either of ours but still worth looking at.

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~earlscliffe/index.htm

Janet
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Old 20-10-2002, 11:53 AM
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Janet Baraclough wrote:

Snap...we're moving to a coastal garden on Arran.


I was thinking of you a couple of days ago as I walked along the beach at Ayr.
Arran was looking superb in the late Autumn sunshine. I greatly envy you.

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Old 20-10-2002, 04:20 PM
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:20:57 +0100, "Aries"
wrote:

We are moving to a beach side house in the near future and would like to
plant shrubs and trees that will thrive well on the Sussex Coast. Any
suggestions gratefully received. TIA


Remember that there are two aspects to coastal survival. Silver-leaved
plants will take the salt gales of winter better than most, as the
hairs on the leaves that give the silver appearance protect the
underlying leaf surface. Also good survivors are shrubs with tough
leathery leaves. On the coast, you should be able to grow shrubs that
would not survive frosts further inland. Many New Zealand trees and
shrubs are very tolerant of seaside conditions.

A list would include buddleia, callistemon, ceanothus, choisya,
cistus, cordyline (for height), cotoneaster, cytisus, eryngium (sea
holly), heathers, hebes of all sorts, hardy fuschias, genista,
helichrysum, hibiscus, hydrangea, lavender, tree lupin, olerias of all
sorts, osothamnus, santolina, senecio, gorse (get the double flowered
variety), yucca.

The second aspect is that it shouldn't blow over in the gales. Shelter
and hedging shrubs include Oleria Traversii, Eleagnus Ebbingei (not
the variegated forms, they're not so vigorous), Griselinia, Tamarisk,
Escallonia. Only the last two have attractive flowers, although the
tiny white flowers of the eleagnus have a wonderful scent in Autumn.
Good staking initially is important, then cutting back to about 3 ft
after a couple of years to allow the roots and lower stem to grow and
strengthen, which will allow them to support subsequent growth. For
tall shrubs, it may be necessary to cut back again in a year or two,
this time to say 5 ft.

If you can find copies of the following, they're well worth getting as
they have a wealth of useful information on seaside gardening.

"Shrubs for the Milder Counties", by W. Arnold-Forster, published by
Country Life, 1948.

"Seaside Gardening" by Christine Kelway, published by Collingridge,
1962.

Long out of print of course, but try searching for s/h copies on the
Advanced Book Exchange, http://www.abebooks.com

Go for the second if you have a choice. It'll be cheaper, and I think
she must have had Arnold-Forster's book open along side her when she
wrote hers!
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