"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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Oxymel of Squill wrote:
lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are
unsuitable,
unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi
attacked one,
fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant pool and it has
flowered
prolifically this year and last

That makes sense - I could put them in the corner away from the
fountain
. I'll try that - thank you.

Do I understand correctly that you have a 1 metre square pond with 3
water lilies and a fountain? If so, I have a very strong feeling that
you will continue to be disappointed. I cannot understand why you put
3 lilies of unknown species in such a small space. Most (?) water
lilies will cover an area of 4 sq metres with ease.

Franz

"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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Oxymel of Squill wrote:
lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are
unsuitable,
unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi
attacked
one, fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant pool and it
has
flowered prolifically this year and last

That makes sense - I could put them in the corner away from the
fountain .
I'll try that - thank you.

A fountain in it? Thats probably it. In such a small pond you
probably need
a fountain to avoid the water getting stagnant. But its only a M sq,
so you
arent going to be able to move the lily very far away are you :-)

He is not talking about "a lily". He is trying to grow *3* lilies in
that pond.

I suggest you dig a bigger pond.

One other thought, in a hot summer the water is going to warm up
very fast,
much more so that in a bigger (especially deeper) pond. It may also
be too
warm for them at the height of the summer.

Franz

"Mike Lyle" wrote
Could be, it is in shade, but it gets pretty hot in summer. I did
say
that it was a small pond - not a lake! There isn't the space for a
bigger one where it is, so I'll have to stick with what is there

Ah, I don't think you mentioned the shade. That's yer problem,
squire. As far as I know all water-lilies absolutely must get about
half a day's real sunlight, at least. Unless somebody knows better, I
don't think they're likely to do well in that position.

Quite right, they need as much sun as possible, and at least a few hours a
day.

On the question of moving water, isn't it the case that they don't
mind the movement itself, but that the circulation may lower the
water-temperature?

Slight water movement is tolerated but a raging torrent certainly won't be.
What they really hate is their leaves getting splashed with water constantly
such as a fountain would do.

So, your problem is lack of sunlight and water splashed on the leaves. One
is easily cured the other means moving your pond.
And, 3 lilies in a 1metre sq pond? unless they are the smallest varieties
then that's two to many.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Mike Lyle" wrote


So, your problem is lack of sunlight and water splashed on the leaves. One
is easily cured the other means moving your pond.
And, 3 lilies in a 1metre sq pond? unless they are the smallest varieties
then that's two to many.

It certainly would be! I mentioned their sizes - they are small varieties.

"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years now.
They had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since - even
though they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get them to flower?

## Sounds like they may need more sun and more fertalizer tabs. Use the
cheap rosebush spikes. They keep mine blooming all summer.

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I can
re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still left,
and I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal solution.
Any suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a pretty
small pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.

## Sorry, Can't help you there.
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"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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Thank you for that point though - I will have the pool quite a bit
deeper after mending the leak and that might do the trick, just.
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Also remember they like still water. They don't do well in currents.
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Tumbleweed wrote:
"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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Oxymel of Squill wrote:

lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are
unsuitable, unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any
currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi
attacked one, fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant
pool
and it has flowered prolifically this year and last


That makes sense - I could put them in the corner away from the
fountain . I'll try that - thank you.


A fountain in it? Thats probably it. In such a small pond you
probably need a fountain to avoid the water getting stagnant. But
its only a M sq, so you arent going to be able to move the lily
very
far away are you :-)
I suggest you dig a bigger pond.

One other thought, in a hot summer the water is going to warm up
very fast, much more so that in a bigger (especially deeper) pond.
It may also be too warm for them at the height of the summer.

Could be, it is in shade, but it gets pretty hot in summer. I did
say
that it was a small pond - not a lake! There isn't the space for a
bigger one where it is, so I'll have to stick with what is there

Ah, I don't think you mentioned the shade. That's yer problem,
squire. As far as I know all water-lilies absolutely must get about
half a day's real sunlight, at least. Unless somebody knows better, I
don't think they're likely to do well in that position.


Sounds like a catch 22 then. Put a small container (thast what it is really)
in full sunlight, and it will heat up significantly (if he has got fish,
then they may be in trouble, you only need one really hot day). Keep it in
shade, probably no flowers, put it in sunlight, might get too hot for
flowers

On the question of moving water, isn't it the case that they don't
mind the movement itself, but that the circulation may lower the
water-temperature?

Mike.


Unsure but I doubt it, because there must be a pretty wide range of temps in
ponds or rivers anyway, all of which would have flowering lilies in them.
BTW, I think the effect is exaggerated because there are several slowly
flowing rivers near me that have (huge patches of) lilies in them. Fast
flowing water you can see what the issue will be, slowly flowing, might not
be a problem.

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Tumbleweed

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"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years now.
They had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since - even
though they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get them to flower?

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I can
re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still left,
and I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal solution.
Any suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a pretty
small pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.

I have found my lillies do well when planted in some 'lovely filth'. This
year I planted them in stones like my other plants, and they did awfully.
Last year, lotsa flowers, this year nada.

BV.