I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years now.
They had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since - even
though they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get them to flower?

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I can
re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still left,
and I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal solution.
Any suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a pretty
small pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.

Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years
now.
They had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since -
even though they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get
them
to flower?

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I
can
re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still
left,
and I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal
solution.
Any suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a
pretty
small pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.

What species and variety are they? Your pond may not be deep enough
for them, as I think you need at least a foot above the rootstock
even for the smallest. I also wonder if there are too many -- you say
"water lilies", plural.

Mike.

Mike Lyle wrote:
Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:

I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years

now.

They had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since -
even though they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get

them

to flower?

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I

can

re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still

left,

and I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal

solution.

Any suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a

pretty

small pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.


What species and variety are they? Your pond may not be deep enough
for them, as I think you need at least a foot above the rootstock
even for the smallest. I also wonder if there are too many -- you say
"water lilies", plural.

I have three in the pond of different species - I don't know the names.
There is plenty of space between them.

Thank you for that point though - I will have the pool quite a bit
deeper after mending the leak and that might do the trick, just.

Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:

I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years

now.

They had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered
since -
even though they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get

them

to flower?

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I

can

re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still

left,

and I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal

solution.

Any suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a

pretty

small pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.


What species and variety are they? Your pond may not be deep
enough
for them, as I think you need at least a foot above the rootstock
even for the smallest. I also wonder if there are too many -- you
say
"water lilies", plural.

I have three in the pond of different species - I don't know the
names. There is plenty of space between them.

Thank you for that point though - I will have the pool quite a bit
deeper after mending the leak and that might do the trick, just.

My books are still in boxes, but I've done a cursory Gg, and I wonder
if either of these sites might be useful.

This BBC one's about water-lilies in particular:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...nymphaea.shtml

I see that there actually are species which want water shallower than
I mentioned -- sorry! But of course we still don't know what you've
got.

This one's a very chatty (though mercifully free of exclamation
marks) and informative one about small ponds in general, with a bit
about water-lilies:
http://www.johnrogers.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pond1.htm

HTH,
Mike.

lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are unsuitable,
unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi attacked one,
fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant pool and it has flowered
prolifically this year and last

Jon

"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
...
I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years now. They
had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since - even though
they have g

"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
...
I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years now. They
had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since - even though
they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get them to flower?



if they are full size water lillies they will not work in such a small pond
yopu need on of the pygmaea forms, lots of food and lots of light.

pk

Oxymel of Squill wrote:
lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are unsuitable,
unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi attacked one,
fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant pool and it has flowered
prolifically this year and last

That makes sense - I could put them in the corner away from the fountain
.. I'll try that - thank you.

Mike Lyle wrote:
Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:

Mike Lyle wrote:

Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:


I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years

now.


They had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered

since -

even though they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get

them


to flower?

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I

can


re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still

left,


and I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal

solution.


Any suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a

pretty


small pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.


What species and variety are they? Your pond may not be deep

enough

for them, as I think you need at least a foot above the rootstock
even for the smallest. I also wonder if there are too many -- you

say

"water lilies", plural.


I have three in the pond of different species - I don't know the
names. There is plenty of space between them.

Thank you for that point though - I will have the pool quite a bit
deeper after mending the leak and that might do the trick, just.


My books are still in boxes, but I've done a cursory Gg, and I wonder
if either of these sites might be useful.

This BBC one's about water-lilies in particular:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...nymphaea.shtml

I see that there actually are species which want water shallower than
I mentioned -- sorry! But of course we still don't know what you've
got.

This one's a very chatty (though mercifully free of exclamation
marks) and informative one about small ponds in general, with a bit
about water-lilies:
http://www.johnrogers.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pond1.htm

Thank you very much - I'll go hunting there...

PK wrote:
"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
...

I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years now. They
had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since - even though
they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get them to flower?




if they are full size water lillies they will not work in such a small pond
yopu need on of the pygmaea forms, lots of food and lots of light.

They are smaller, two have leaves the size of a match box and the other
the size of a wine coaster. When I was a child we had pukka waterlillies
- they were in the corners of the pond, now that I think of it, and in
full sunlight at least half the day.

"Oxymel of Squill" wrote in message
...
lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are unsuitable,
unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi attacked
one,
fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant pool and it has flowered
prolifically this year and last

Whereas my lilies are the envy of my neighbour who can see them from her
bedroom window. I have 5. I also have several large fish and a pump and the
ducks occasionally manage to jump in and splash about, and they flower
profusely every year.

actually, I have a huge lily less than 3 feet away from my waterfall and the leaves
get splashed. I also have a foot long air stone at the same distance with a big air
pump pushing the air in. I wouldnt set a pump outlet aimed right at the lily tho.
I and a few other people found that feeding high protein, high quality food seems to
keep koi from attacking the lilies. altho I do have large flat river rocks on top of
the potting mud and gravel filling in around the rocks to keep koi from rooting
around.
my lily is a heavy feeder. it wont bloom without being fed every two weeks or so. I
dont have ideal all day full sun for my lily, but it does get sun several hours each
day. there are lilies that will bloom in lower light conditions.
not all lilies are as bloomiferous. mine is texas dawn and really cranks out the
blossoms. INgrid


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"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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I've had some water lillies in my fishpond for a couple of years now. They
had flowers on them when bought, but haven't flowered since - even though
they have grown nice and big. What do you do to get them to flower?

The pond started to leak so I've taken everything out to see if I can
re-seal it. It had a liner before, well bits of liner were still left, and
I'm not sure if the bituminous sealer will be the ideal solution. Any
suggestions as to what to look for in a pond liner? It is a pretty small
pond around a metre square and thirty centimetres deep.

Are you serious? 1m square? You can buy new liner for that for next to
nothing , resealing (a) probably wouldnt work, and (b) a tin of resealer
would cost more than a bit of liner! especially as you might be able to get
an offcut for free.

Anyway, a 'pond' that size is too small for anything but a dwarf lily, a
standard or even medium size lily would fill it up within 2 or 3 months.

--
Tumbleweed

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"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
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Oxymel of Squill wrote:
lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are unsuitable,
unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi attacked
one, fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant pool and it has
flowered prolifically this year and last

That makes sense - I could put them in the corner away from the fountain .
I'll try that - thank you.

A fountain in it? Thats probably it. In such a small pond you probably need
a fountain to avoid the water getting stagnant. But its only a M sq, so you
arent going to be able to move the lily very far away are you :-)
I suggest you dig a bigger pond.

One other thought, in a hot summer the water is going to warm up very fast,
much more so that in a bigger (especially deeper) pond. It may also be too
warm for them at the height of the summer.
--
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Tumbleweed wrote:
"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
...

Oxymel of Squill wrote:

lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are unsuitable,
unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi attacked
one, fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant pool and it has
flowered prolifically this year and last


That makes sense - I could put them in the corner away from the fountain .
I'll try that - thank you.


A fountain in it? Thats probably it. In such a small pond you probably need
a fountain to avoid the water getting stagnant. But its only a M sq, so you
arent going to be able to move the lily very far away are you :-)
I suggest you dig a bigger pond.

One other thought, in a hot summer the water is going to warm up very fast,
much more so that in a bigger (especially deeper) pond. It may also be too
warm for them at the height of the summer.

Could be, it is in shade, but it gets pretty hot in summer. I did say
that it was a small pond - not a lake! There isn't the space for a
bigger one where it is, so I'll have to stick with what is there

Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Tumbleweed wrote:
"Peter H.M. Brooks" wrote in message
...

Oxymel of Squill wrote:

lilies don't like moving water, so most set ups with fish are
unsuitable, unless you can arrange a quiet cornere out of any
currents

I had 2 lilies in the fish pond and neither flowered, the koi
attacked one, fatally! I moved the survivor into a stagnant
pool
and it has flowered prolifically this year and last


That makes sense - I could put them in the corner away from the
fountain . I'll try that - thank you.


A fountain in it? Thats probably it. In such a small pond you
probably need a fountain to avoid the water getting stagnant. But
its only a M sq, so you arent going to be able to move the lily
very
far away are you :-)
I suggest you dig a bigger pond.

One other thought, in a hot summer the water is going to warm up
very fast, much more so that in a bigger (especially deeper) pond.
It may also be too warm for them at the height of the summer.

Could be, it is in shade, but it gets pretty hot in summer. I did
say
that it was a small pond - not a lake! There isn't the space for a
bigger one where it is, so I'll have to stick with what is there

Ah, I don't think you mentioned the shade. That's yer problem,
squire. As far as I know all water-lilies absolutely must get about
half a day's real sunlight, at least. Unless somebody knows better, I
don't think they're likely to do well in that position.

On the question of moving water, isn't it the case that they don't
mind the movement itself, but that the circulation may lower the
water-temperature?

Mike.