Working Class
Lower Middle Class
Middle Class
Upper Middle Class
Professional Class

Define the gardening requirements/thoughts behind each of these classes and
state the make up of the soil structure/growing capabilities they
experience.

Mike

--
H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion
National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past
H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 4 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea
British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:12:14 +0000 (UTC), "Mike" wrote:

~Working Class
~Lower Middle Class
~Middle Class
~Upper Middle Class
~Professional Class
~
~Define the gardening requirements/thoughts behind each of these classes and
~state the make up of the soil structure/growing capabilities they
~experience.

who was it who said (roughly) "however small one's garden, one should
always put aside half an acre or so for woodland"?

That would do nicely for upper classes

--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:12:14 +0000 (UTC), "Mike" wrote:

Working Class
Lower Middle Class
Middle Class
Upper Middle Class
Professional Class

Define the gardening requirements/thoughts behind each of these classes and
state the make up of the soil structure/growing capabilities they
experience.

No. Get off my land.

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

"Stephen Howard" wrote in message
Working Class
Lower Middle Class
Middle Class
Upper Middle Class
Professional Class

Define the gardening requirements/thoughts behind each of these classes
and
state the make up of the soil structure/growing capabilities they
experience.

No. Get off my land.

No, "Bugger Orf", as was said to me by a wellington-booted, oilskin-jacketed
chap carrying a shotgun.

In article , jane
writes


who was it who said (roughly) "however small one's garden, one should
always put aside half an acre or so for woodland"?

Think it was either C E Lucas-Phillips or Vita SW
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Mike wrote:
:: Working Class
:: Lower Middle Class
:: Middle Class
:: Upper Middle Class
:: Professional Class
::
:: Define the gardening requirements/thoughts behind each of these
:: classes and state the make up of the soil structure/growing
:: capabilities they experience.
::

The professionals and upper classes like to think they are the elite (as in
everything else they do) but in reality get a working class person to do
everything for them.

upper middle, middle and lower middle classes don't exist, they are all just
working class, they just don't want to admit it.

I have noticed a lot of snobbery in gardening circles in recent years but
any garden, no matter the size, shape or amount of money spent on it, has
the same effect on those who actually put the hours in doing it.
The Lord of the manor cannot 'feel' the same way as the bloke who actually
got his hands dirty when they both look out over the beds and lawns, the
Lord has merely issued a command, the working class made it happen.


--

http://www.blueyonder256k.myby.co.uk/

I have noticed a lot of snobbery in gardening circles in recent years

:-)) and it shows in this newsgroup

In message , Mike
writes

I have noticed a lot of snobbery in gardening circles in recent years

:-)) and it shows in this newsgroup


We are not all tarred with the same brush.

PS Incidentally, if you are Mike who used to have an address with
'rugrat' in it, can you please email me re Dennis (RNA).
--
June Hughes

On 9/2/05 1:18 pm, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , jane
writes


who was it who said (roughly) "however small one's garden, one should
always put aside half an acre or so for woodland"?

Think it was either C E Lucas-Phillips or Vita SW

I thought it was G Jekyll?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On 9/2/05 3:36 pm, in article
, "Phil L"
wrote:
snip
I have noticed a lot of snobbery in gardening circles in recent years but
any garden, no matter the size, shape or amount of money spent on it, has
the same effect on those who actually put the hours in doing it.
The Lord of the manor cannot 'feel' the same way as the bloke who actually
got his hands dirty when they both look out over the beds and lawns, the
Lord has merely issued a command, the working class made it happen.

I've always thought it was a great leveller. Everyone looks the same in
gardening clothes and the interests are the same, even if the tastes aren't.
My experience of people who are passionate about gardening and plants is
that there ARE no social barriers, except possibly from the sort of Mrs
Hampstead I was thinking of originally. And real gardeners garden, Lord or
not.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"June Hughes" wrote in message
...
In message , Mike
writes

I have noticed a lot of snobbery in gardening circles in recent years

:-)) and it shows in this newsgroup


We are not all tarred with the same brush.

Fortunatley not :-))


PS Incidentally, if you are Mike who used to have an address with
'rugrat' in it, can you please email me re Dennis (RNA).

Well 'rumrat' if you like when I was on Demon :-))
Big problems with Demon who eventually offered an apology :-)) I am afraid
I do not suffer fools gladly or those who use the language of the gutter.

You can find me at mikedotcrowe1atbtinternetdotcom. or by snail mail at PO36
8PG much to Sacha's disgust that I am so well known and 'respected' that a
simple post code finds me :-))


Mike





--
H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion
National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past
H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 4 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea
British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery

In message , Mike
writes

Well 'rumrat' if you like when I was on Demon :-))
Thanks. I have emailed you.



--
June Hughes

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:39:53 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

~On 9/2/05 1:18 pm, in article , "Janet
~Tweedy" wrote:
~
~ In article , jane
~ writes
~
~
~ who was it who said (roughly) "however small one's garden, one should
~ always put aside half an acre or so for woodland"?
~
~ Think it was either C E Lucas-Phillips or Vita SW
~
~I thought it was G Jekyll?

Bingo! Gertrude it was...

"It is important that even in the very smallest garden, not less than
an acre must be reserved for trees."

Knew I was only getting the paraphrase very roughly!


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

On 9/2/05 7:37 pm, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough" wrote:


~ In article , jane
~ writes
~
~
~ who was it who said (roughly) "however small one's garden, one should
~ always put aside half an acre or so for woodland"?
~
~ Think it was either C E Lucas-Phillips or Vita SW

Both were renowned for their unaffected, egalitarian manner on
gardening matters and VSW in particular has not dated at all in either
gardening ideas or manner; well worth reading.

Imho, more squirm-worthy garden authors include Beverly Nichols, (but
at least he laughed at himself); Martha Stewart, and currently, Roy
Strong..sorry, Sacha, but I find his brand of acquired social
pretensions really detract from "The Laskett" .

No problem - I see that myself. But if you look past that at what he did
there with his (now deceased) wife, it was and is quite something. I like,
too, that he is quite open about his origins and does NOT pretend to be what
he is not. But he IS talented, I think. I've met him, briefly, twice and
we are unlikely to be buddies but he does know his oignons. ;-) And of
course, in its own way, that could be just the book and background for our
author.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)