On 13/2/05 18:38, in article , "Franz
Heymann" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
snip
I was writing of people that I had met or who
had
lived in Jersey during my lifetime (by implication) You perhaps,
would
settle for Victor Hugo, Millais, Charles II.

I bet you are not as old as that either. {;:-))

On cold mornings, I feel as if ...... ;-)

snip

G.B. Shaw also had some temporary claim to fame. Who knows anything
about his plays nowadays, except perhaps for that popularised musical?
(Which I thoroughly enjoy)

Did he ever live in Jersey? ;-)


Gerald Durrell changed the approach to keeping animals
in zoos and pioneered breeding programmes to reintroduce species to
their
native countries - that work is durable. I respect your criteria
but they
are not the only ones that count. Especially as it would appear
that people
have to be dead for centuries before even being considered eligible
for a
discussion on current fame!

All four my random samples were famous in their lifetimes.

As are the ones I offered.

May I suggest we have by now had our fun on this topic?

Certainly. Dorma bene. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

[quote=Sacha]On 13/2/05 18:38, in article

Did he ever live in Jersey? ;-)[color=blue][i]


No, he lived near to Wheathampsted (???)

Down the road from Cherry Garrard (who wrote 'The worst journey in the World') anyway ;-)



Anyway, yeah, Dorma Bene.

In article , Mike Lyle mike_lyle_uk@REM
OVETHISyahoo.co.uk writes

Ah, you can't be as old as I am, can you?

I'm the 'next generation' (you are the same age as my father)

Isn't it strange how his
influence has virtually dropped dead?

Isn't it that the focus has shifted to the contemporary? (Except in
architecture ;-) )

For example, are younger people aware that George Orwell wrote anything
apart from Animal Farm and 1984?

Or was the interest always in the contemporary - it's just that you and
I no longer are? ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

In message , Kay
writes
In article , Mike Lyle mike_lyle_uk@REM
OVETHISyahoo.co.uk writes

Ah, you can't be as old as I am, can you?

I'm the 'next generation' (you are the same age as my father)

Isn't it strange how his
influence has virtually dropped dead?

Isn't it that the focus has shifted to the contemporary? (Except in
architecture ;-) )

For example, are younger people aware that George Orwell wrote anything
apart from Animal Farm and 1984?

Or was the interest always in the contemporary - it's just that you and
I no longer are? ;-)

I'm afraid it is probably the latter. The OU are still using GBS.
--
June Hughes

In article ,
Janet Tweedy writes:
|
| You mean you've never heard of Jersey Royals?
|

Curious. Nobody seems to have mentioned Lily Langtry.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

June Hughes wrote:
In message , Kay
writes
In article , Mike Lyle
mike_lyle_uk@REM OVETHISyahoo.co.uk writes

Ah, you can't be as old as I am, can you?

I'm the 'next generation' (you are the same age as my father)

Isn't it strange how his
influence has virtually dropped dead?

Isn't it that the focus has shifted to the contemporary? (Except
in
architecture ;-) )

For example, are younger people aware that George Orwell wrote
anything apart from Animal Farm and 1984?

Almost certainly not, and if so, it's a pity.

Or was the interest always in the contemporary - it's just that
you
and I no longer are? ;-)

I'm afraid it is probably the latter. The OU are still using GBS.

I fear you may be right; but I'm not knocking David hare et al. Good
to know the OU still recognize him.

Mike.

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Mike Lyle mike_lyle_uk@REM
OVETHISyahoo.co.uk writes

Ah, you can't be as old as I am, can you?

I'm the 'next generation' (you are the same age as my father)

Isn't it strange how his
influence has virtually dropped dead?

Isn't it that the focus has shifted to the contemporary? (Except in
architecture ;-) )

For example, are younger people aware that George Orwell wrote anything
apart from Animal Farm and 1984?

Maybe young people in Wigan do :~))

Or was the interest always in the contemporary - it's just that you and
I no longer are? ;-)
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

On 14/2/05 14:20, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Janet Tweedy writes:
|
| You mean you've never heard of Jersey Royals?
|

Curious. Nobody seems to have mentioned Lily Langtry.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I keep telling you - I'm not *that* old! ;-) Her father, Dean Le Breton,
officiated at my grand parents' wedding. A lot of children in the parish of
of St Saviour were said to have the Le Breton nose...... ;-)
We came from Grouville & St. Martin. ;-))
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Kay wrote:
In article , Franz Heymann
notfranz. writes
G.B. Shaw also had some temporary claim to fame. Who knows
anything
about his plays nowadays, except perhaps for that popularised
musical? (Which I thoroughly enjoy)

I've read a good few of them. But then, I might be too old to
count
;-)

Isn't there still a Shaw Festival at malvern?

Ah, you can't be as old as I am, can you? Isn't it strange how his
influence has virtually dropped dead? He may have said some
damn-fool
things about Russia, but his plays, even at the preachiest, are such
_fun_ as well as thought-provoking. I'd guess people ten years older
than I am got most of their political education from him. Not even
Arthur Miller, on whom be peace, would have got a letter delivered,
addressed simply with a picture of him and the words "wherever he
may
be at present", as Shaw did. I remember the stir when a contemporary
of my mother's, an Australian actor, got a reply to a letter to the
Grand Old man. "Young man," it began!

My aunt received a letter addressed to "Aunt Marie, East London". It
took 4 months and, amongst other travels, 12000 miles by sea to
deliver it

Franz

[QUOTE=Mike Lyle
For example, are younger people aware that George Orwell wrote
anything apart from Animal Farm and 1984?[

Almost certainly not, and if so, it's a pity.
[

If I were to think about such a thing, then in all probability, I could.

...The was of the Worlds??
Sorry, that was Orson Welles wasn't it??
Getting the Orwell and Orson mixed up (oops).

All we did at School was the likes of Shakespere, and lots of Scottish authors and poets, such as Liz Lochhead, Crichgton, and many others.

Not to mention WW1 poets like Sassoon and Owen....

Hardly a massive variation though.

I do know however, that Orwell wrote 1984 in 1948, and ended up living alone on Jura until he died in 1950ish/something.

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:45:50 +0000, Douglas
wrote:

~
~[QUOTE=Mike Lyle
~For example, are younger people aware that George Orwell wrote
~anything apart from Animal Farm and 1984?[
~
~Almost certainly not, and if so, it's a pity.
~[
~
~If I were to think about such a thing, then in all probability, I
~could.
~
~..The was of the Worlds??
:-) You mean War of the Worlds I assume!

~Sorry, that was Orson Welles wasn't it??
Er, no. HG Wells... Orson Welles just read it on the radio and scared
half of America in the '30s...

~Getting the Orwell and Orson mixed up (oops).
And the Herbert George

~All we did at School was the likes of Shakespere, and lots of Scottish
~authors and poets, such as Liz Lochhead, Crichgton, and many others.
~
~Not to mention WW1 poets like Sassoon and Owen....
Oh I did those for O level. Still like Wilfrid Owen, terrible waste of
talent as war always is. Was a strange thing to teach 15-year olds but
it was compensated for by doing Ovid in Latin (ooer).

~Hardly a massive variation though.
~
~I do know however, that Orwell wrote 1984 in 1948, and ended up living
~alone on Jura until he died in 1950ish/something.

--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

[quote=jane]On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:45:50 +0000, Douglas
wrote:


~..The was of the Worlds??
:-) You mean War of the Worlds I assume!

****
Yes, just a Typo.
****

~Sorry, that was Orson Welles wasn't it??
Er, no. HG Wells... Orson Welles just read it on the radio and scared
half of America in the '30s...

*****
I knew it was something like that ;-)
*****

~Getting the Orwell and Orson mixed up (oops).
And the Herbert George

*****
Yes, I have to get back to these things, but why read these things because you feel that you have too, rather than becuase you want to??
*****

Oh I did those for O level. Still like Wilfrid Owen, terrible waste of
talent as war always is. Was a strange thing to teach 15-year olds

*****
I think you may have answered yourself there with it being a waste.
*****

but
it was compensated for by doing Ovid in Latin (ooer).

*****
Doing Shakespeare in Glasweigian was enough for me ;-)

" The one thing that can be said about old money is that once it was new money ."
Alister Cook

Douglas wrote:
[...]
Doing Shakespeare in Glasweigian was enough for me ;-)

Well, he works better in English regional accents, as long as they
aren't too heavy, than in the hopelessly inappropriate old
fraightfully refained: so I'd be up for the Bard in Scottish tones
too.

Mike.

Mike wrote:
Working Class
Lower Middle Class
Middle Class
Upper Middle Class
Professional Class

Define the gardening requirements/thoughts behind each of these
classes and
state the make up of the soil structure/growing capabilities they
experience.


I find this one a bit odd. It's like a single bit of string that's
full of knots, because in reality there's can be an overlap in the
requirements/thoughts between the classes and even at times the same
soil structure/growing capabilities.... and experience.
Any chance you'd answer it yourself?