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Old 24-01-2003, 01:00 PM
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| I've got a long house/garage wall ( about 100ft ) which gets only a couple
| of hours sun in the morning during summer. At all other times it is in
| shade( but not too dark. there is about 20ft of open air before the next
| house). There is a narrow ( about 6" ) strip between it and the path which
| is currently filled with gravel but into which I could make planting
| pockets. I'd like some recommendations for things to grow up the wall. Fruit
| would be good but I expect the lack of sun would be a problem. I'd rather
| not have anything which will damage the brickwork ( climbing hydrangea?,
| Ivy?) and I would definitely like flowers ( especially strongly scented).

The big question is whether the strip goes down to the soil (i.e.
indefinitely) or not. The soil doesn't have to be good, and it
can be under things, but it is the root run that matters. It also
helps if it is not solid clay or compacted builder's rubble.

If the answer is "yes", then you have little problem. Wisteria,
many honeysuckles, many clematis, Akebia quinata, a few roses and
probably more. Most temperate climbers will grow happily with no
direct sun if they get plenty of light.

If the answer is "no", I can't help :-(


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Old 24-01-2003, 05:34 PM
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"Nick wrote in message

Wisteria,
many honeysuckles, many clematis, Akebia quinata, a few roses and
probably more. Most temperate climbers will grow happily with no
direct sun if they get plenty of light.

However, Wisteria, which fits the brief exactly, likes a lot of sun on the
top growth to flower well but it's not needed on the stem. If it's in the
shade permanently it won't flower much if at all.

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Bob

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Runnymede fighting for it's existence.




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Old 24-01-2003, 06:40 PM
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Sue & Bob Hobden wrote:
"Nick wrote in message

Wisteria,
many honeysuckles, many clematis, Akebia quinata, a few roses and
probably more. Most temperate climbers will grow happily with no
direct sun if they get plenty of light.

However, Wisteria, which fits the brief exactly, likes a lot of sun on the
top growth to flower well but it's not needed on the stem. If it's in the
shade permanently it won't flower much if at all.


Tell that to mine! No sun except the very evening sun in summer
and then filtered through trees. It is covered with flower every
year it escapes early frost.

Now, it is possible that this is a wood ripening effect, and I am
writing from Cambridge, which has perhaps the most reliably warm
summer days in the UK. Which isn't saying much :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
Email:
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
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Old 24-01-2003, 07:35 PM
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In article , Martin Sykes
writes
I've got a long house/garage wall ( about 100ft ) which gets only a couple
of hours sun in the morning during summer. At all other times it is in
shade( but not too dark. there is about 20ft of open air before the next
house). There is a narrow ( about 6" ) strip between it and the path which
is currently filled with gravel but into which I could make planting
pockets. I'd like some recommendations for things to grow up the wall. Fruit
would be good but I expect the lack of sun would be a problem. I'd rather
not have anything which will damage the brickwork ( climbing hydrangea?,
Ivy?) and I would definitely like flowers ( especially strongly scented).


Japanese quince, chaenomeles, would flourish, give you flowers and a bit
of fruit, but not scent. Not a climber, but it can be encouraged upwards
a few feet.

Would a boysenberry work for fruit? I used to have one flourishing under
a mature fig tree - doubt if it ever got sun.
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http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/
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