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Old 20-05-2005, 08:42 AM
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Hi folks, nice site you have here, some very interesting reading. I've tried a search but nothing really seems to come up for me.
I have a square of land (approx 2m by 2m) in a shaded corner of my garden, it does get some sun in the late evening however. My wife is very keen to have a fruit tree in the garden and this would seem a good place for it - would anyone have any suggestions of types of fruit tree to plant?

(Mods - I wasnt sure where to pit this thread, please move it if appropriate)

Thanks

Ross
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Old 20-05-2005, 09:59 AM
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In article , Bowser Bowser.1pbm81@gar
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Hi folks, nice site you have here,


This is not a website, it's a newsgroup. Gardenbanter merely offers you
a back-door entrance.

some very interesting reading. I've
tried a search but nothing really seems to come up for me.
I have a square of land (approx 2m by 2m) in a shaded corner of my
garden, it does get some sun in the late evening however. My wife is
very keen to have a fruit tree in the garden and this would seem a good
place for it - would anyone have any suggestions of types of fruit tree
to plant?


That's difficult. Is it 2mx 2m spare space in a bed (in which you could
just about fit a tree in (though if it's already shaded, adding a tree
would exacerbate the shade problems of the surrounding ground), or is it
2m x 2m surrounded by fences, walls etc? - in which case I think it
would be too small for a tree.

Most fruits do better in sun. Have you considered soft fruit?
Blackberries and blackberry hybrids (eg loganberries, tayberries) crop
OK in shade.

(Mods - I wasnt sure where to pit this thread, please move it if
appropriate)

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Old 20-05-2005, 11:39 AM
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Bowser wrote:
Hi folks, nice site you have here, some very interesting reading.

I've
tried a search but nothing really seems to come up for me.
I have a square of land (approx 2m by 2m) in a shaded corner of my
garden, it does get some sun in the late evening however. My wife

is
very keen to have a fruit tree in the garden and this would seem a
good place for it - would anyone have any suggestions of types of
fruit tree to plant?

(Mods - I wasnt sure where to pit this thread, please move it if
appropriate)


Hi Bowser! Welcome to the group. You've introduced yourself with a
tough problem: Kay's answer covers it, I'm afraid, unless somebody in
here has some points to add. A thornless blackberry with pretty cut
leaves would look nice and taste OK. There are a lot of flowers which
like some shade, and these could go in front. Easy ones include:
foxgloves, pansies, London pride, bergenia, snowdrops, begonias
(begonias probably won't survive the winter, though) primroses,
"bleeding heart", aquilegia, pulmonaria (though not all together!)

If you want to get the whole newsgroup, try going to:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.rec.gardening

There are technically better ways, but it works fine, and usually
quickly. If you browse around what you see, you may find some other
groups to interest you, too -- everything from Aardvarks to Aztecs
and onwards!

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Old 21-05-2005, 12:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lyle
Bowser wrote:
Hi folks, nice site you have here, some very interesting reading.

I've
tried a search but nothing really seems to come up for me.
I have a square of land (approx 2m by 2m) in a shaded corner of my
garden, it does get some sun in the late evening however. My wife

is
very keen to have a fruit tree in the garden and this would seem a
good place for it - would anyone have any suggestions of types of
fruit tree to plant?

(Mods - I wasnt sure where to pit this thread, please move it if
appropriate)


Hi Bowser! Welcome to the group. You've introduced yourself with a
tough problem: Kay's answer covers it, I'm afraid, unless somebody in
here has some points to add. A thornless blackberry with pretty cut
leaves would look nice and taste OK. There are a lot of flowers which
like some shade, and these could go in front. Easy ones include:
foxgloves, pansies, London pride, bergenia, snowdrops, begonias
(begonias probably won't survive the winter, though) primroses,
"bleeding heart", aquilegia, pulmonaria (though not all together!)

If you want to get the whole newsgroup, try going to:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.rec.gardening

There are technically better ways, but it works fine, and usually
quickly. If you browse around what you see, you may find some other
groups to interest you, too -- everything from Aardvarks to Aztecs
and onwards!

--
Mike.

Thanks Mike & Kay, this is (for me) an unusual set up for a forum, I remember the 'old days'! of usenet but everything seems to be UB nowadays!
Thanks for the advice, the corner is indeed shaded by a fence.
I really like the idea of Blackberry....I think I'll try that, do some reading first though.

Cheers

Ross
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Old 21-05-2005, 08:35 AM
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In article , Bowser
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Thanks Mike & Kay, this is (for me) an unusual set up for a forum, I
remember the 'old days'! of usenet but everything seems to be UB
nowadays!
Thanks for the advice, the corner is indeed shaded by a fence.
I really like the idea of Blackberry....I think I'll try that, do some
reading first though.



Presumably Ross you are coming via Garden banter?
If you joined the proper full newsgroup I think you'll find it very
similar to usenet. Much more efficient and not subject to the whims of
gardenBanter filters.

Hope you get here and enjoy the company!

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Old 22-05-2005, 12:20 AM
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Presumably Ross you are coming via Garden banter?
If you joined the proper full newsgroup I think you'll find it very
similar to usenet. Much more efficient and not subject to the whims of
gardenBanter filters.


It *IS* Usenet - well, a tiny part of it...

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Old 23-05-2005, 12:16 PM
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Bowser wrote:

: Thanks Mike & Kay, this is (for me) an unusual set up for a forum, I
: remember the 'old days'! of usenet but everything seems to be UB
: nowadays!
: Thanks for the advice, the corner is indeed shaded by a fence.
: I really like the idea of Blackberry....I think I'll try that, do some
: reading first though.


Morello cherries are often recommended for growing against a north facing
wall, so may cope with the shade ok. Ditto for redcurrants/whitecurrants
Though I have no persoanl experience of the veracity of this advice.

Jim
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Old 24-05-2005, 12:23 PM
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from J Jackson contains these words:
Bowser wrote:


: Thanks Mike & Kay, this is (for me) an unusual set up for a forum, I
: remember the 'old days'! of usenet but everything seems to be UB
: nowadays!
: Thanks for the advice, the corner is indeed shaded by a fence.
: I really like the idea of Blackberry....I think I'll try that, do some
: reading first though.



Morello cherries are often recommended for growing against a north facing
wall, so may cope with the shade ok. Ditto for redcurrants/whitecurrants
Though I have no persoanl experience of the veracity of this advice.


Gooseberries (being denizens of the sub-hedgerow environment) will also
grow in the shade, but prefer a bit of sun. You'll need to net the
morellos if you grow a tree - the blackbirds will have them, otherwise.

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Old 24-05-2005, 05:45 PM
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In article , Jaques
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Gooseberries (being denizens of the sub-hedgerow environment) will also
grow in the shade, but prefer a bit of sun. You'll need to net the
morellos if you grow a tree - the blackbirds will have them, otherwise.


No they won't! They will try a red (unripe) one, shudder, move on to the
next red one, and so on until you have a single peck mark in every
cherry, and not a single one actually eaten.
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Old 21-05-2005, 04:46 AM
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 07:42:02 +0000, Bowser
wrote:

Hi folks, nice site you have here...


It's not a "site" and we don't "have" it.

It's a *newsgroup* which is an entirely different, and much older,
thing than the world wide web, which many newbies confuse with "the
internet."

Just a little correction in the interests of terminological propriety.


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