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When's the best time of year to plant a clematis?
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Rosie wrote:
When's the best time of year to plant a clematis? ROSIE ISTR September -- Dublin, Ireland (remove the obvious to email) |
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"Rosie" wrote in message ... When's the best time of year to plant a clematis? ROSIE If they are container grown then they can be planted at any time the ground is not completely frozen. Spring planted plants may need watering their first summer. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs) |
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"Rosie" wrote in message
... When's the best time of year to plant a clematis? ROSIE Not sure when but you should plant them deep unlike most other plants so that if they get clematis wilt, they will grow back from beneath the ground. Martin |
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In message , Martin Sykes
writes "Rosie" wrote in message ... When's the best time of year to plant a clematis? ROSIE Not sure when but you should plant them deep unlike most other plants so that if they get clematis wilt, they will grow back from beneath the ground. And put a 4-5" pot with the bottom cut out upside down round the roots to keep the sun off (and the cats from spraying them). -- Tony Morgan |
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In article , Rosie
writes When's the best time of year to plant a clematis? ROSIE Autumn, but early autumn, IIRC. The idea is that they don't need quite so much water - a new plant planted in late spring will need daily watering for six weeks. Early spring (but not in frozen ground) is next best. -- Jane Lumley |
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In article , Jane Lumley writes: | In article , Rosie | writes | When's the best time of year to plant a clematis? | | Autumn, but early autumn, IIRC. The idea is that they don't need quite | so much water - a new plant planted in late spring will need daily | watering for six weeks. Early spring (but not in frozen ground) is next | best. Back when we had drier weather, planting in sandy soil in Cambridge had to be done in autumn, as few plants would establish enough of a root system to survive the summer. But, now, with the incredibly wet weather, planting in autumn can cause the plants to get root root before they establish, so spring can be a better bet. This applies to many plants, though not all. Regards, Nick Maclaren, University of Cambridge Computing Service, New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email: Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679 |
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In article , Jane Lumley
writes In article , Rosie writes When's the best time of year to plant a clematis? Autumn, but early autumn, IIRC. The idea is that they don't need quite so much water - a new plant planted in late spring will need daily watering for six weeks. Early spring (but not in frozen ground) is next best. I guess it depends on where you live. Here, in the Lake District where the rainfall is quite high even during the summer, it's not such a problem. In drier areas you might have to water regularly anyway even when the plant is established. Plant it well & add a pipe going down to the roots (fill it with stones) so you can pour water straight down to where it's needed. Some varieties will tolerate drier conditions than others too. And non of them like being waterlogged during the winter. As has been mentioned, container grown plants (not just clematis) can be planted at any time of the year provided the ground isn't frozen. In my experience, early autumn or spring - but when the ground has started to warm up is best. -- Rachel Clematis Web Site http://www.ukclematis.co.uk/ |
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In message , Rachel Sullivan
writes Plant it well & add a pipe going down to the roots (fill it with stones) so you can pour water straight down to where it's needed. No doubt para 4 in the Planting directions help Barkers sell more clematis plants :-) Unless you plant with a little of the brown section at the bottom of the stem above ground, you can get disease or rot. Also cut the bottom out of a 3" or 4" pot and place upside down to keep the sun away from the roots. -- Tony Morgan |
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"Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... In message , Rachel Sullivan writes Plant it well & add a pipe going down to the roots (fill it with stones) so you can pour water straight down to where it's needed. No doubt para 4 in the Planting directions help Barkers sell more clematis plants :-) Unless you plant with a little of the brown section at the bottom of the stem above ground, you can get disease or rot. Also cut the bottom out of a 3" or 4" pot and place upside down to keep the sun away from the roots. Why are you challenging what has long been "best advice" for planting clematis? Clearly you do not bury all the mature stem but the site advice: Plant deeper than the original container - not necessarily 2 or 3 inches deeper, but as much as it takes to get at least one other set of leaf nodes below the ground. We have done this since the plant was a cutting, and it has been potted on at least three times since then. Do it once more! is sound. The purpose is to ensure that there are growth buds below ground level, hence if the plant above ground dies off from clematis wilt there are buds available to regrow. pk (btw I've bought from Rachel's firm - and have another order in at the moment - plant quality, packing and delivery were all top notch! |
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In article , Paul Kelly
writes "Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... In message , Rachel Sullivan writes Plant it well & add a pipe going down to the roots (fill it with stones) so you can pour water straight down to where it's needed. No doubt para 4 in the Planting directions help Barkers sell more clematis plants :-) G. I had to look it up - even though I wrote it! Did you mean the bit about not expecting too much in the first year, or even its second? Of course the idea is to sell plants, but it's even more important to give good advice. Clematis are not plants for instant gardeners - unless you buy enormous plants to start with. We do those too. Unless you plant with a little of the brown section at the bottom of the stem above ground, you can get disease or rot. I think planting deep is one of the important things about clematis and but is most especially relevant to the large flowered hybrids. It's certainly not as crucial for the species varieties, but even things like the atragenes can benefit from a little depth. Horrid mouses have had a wonderful time this winter gnawing through the stems - right at the base, of course! But they are coming up again from below the ground. I'm not sure what you mean about 'the brown section'. Some varieties do have this when young but generally speaking, young plants are green and don't develop a woody stem until much older. There are, of course, exceptions to this - atragenes/montanas for instance. I met a gardener here years ago who told me he plants his clematis *at least* 12 inches deep and has never had a loss. OK if you have nice depth of soil I suppose. Also cut the bottom out of a 3" or 4" pot and place upside down to keep the sun away from the roots. They don't care about the sun on their roots. They care about having plenty to drink. Planting a small herbaceous plant, or even a small shrub would give them the shade they like which helps to retain moisture. Upside down plant pots don't look aesthetically pleasing & the plant will still need watering as it gets established or during dry spells. Why are you challenging what has long been "best advice" for planting clematis? Clearly you do not bury all the mature stem but the site advice: Plant deeper than the original container - not necessarily 2 or 3 inches deeper, but as much as it takes to get at least one other set of leaf nodes below the ground. We have done this since the plant was a cutting, and it has been potted on at least three times since then. Do it once more! is sound. The purpose is to ensure that there are growth buds below ground level, hence if the plant above ground dies off from clematis wilt there are buds available to regrow. Not just wilt either. See mouses above. Also careless gardeners with strimmers, kids with footballs etc. Slender stems are easily damaged. (btw I've bought from Rachel's firm - and have another order in at the moment - plant quality, packing and delivery were all top notch! This is the scary thing about posting to newsgroups. You never know who you'll run across. Glad you were pleased - but we do try to put things right when things go wrong (as they invariably can). -- Rachel |
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In message , Paul Kelly
writes "Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... In message , Rachel Sullivan writes Plant it well & add a pipe going down to the roots (fill it with stones) so you can pour water straight down to where it's needed. No doubt para 4 in the Planting directions help Barkers sell more clematis plants :-) Unless you plant with a little of the brown section at the bottom of the stem above ground, you can get disease or rot. Also cut the bottom out of a 3" or 4" pot and place upside down to keep the sun away from the roots. Why are you challenging what has long been "best advice" for planting clematis? Clearly you do not bury all the mature stem but the site advice: Plant deeper than the original container - not necessarily 2 or 3 inches deeper, but as much as it takes to get at least one other set of leaf nodes below the ground. We have done this since the plant was a cutting, and it has been potted on at least three times since then. Do it once more! is sound. Then I'm afraid we must agree to disagree. I've been growing clematis for 47 years, I can assure you that if you plant a set of leaf nodes below the surface and you have a wet spell within a week or so, then you can expect to get rot and lose the plant - not necessarily but there's a good possibly.. The purpose is to ensure that there are growth buds below ground level, hence if the plant above ground dies off from clematis wilt there are buds available to regrow. pk (btw I've bought from Rachel's firm - and have another order in at the moment - plant quality, packing and delivery were all top notch! Completely irrelevant. However, the thought does occur to me that the reason you're having to order more clematis is perhaps because you have lost previous plantings. -- Tony Morgan |
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"Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... In message , Paul Kelly writes Completely irrelevant. However, the thought does occur to me that the reason you're having to order more clematis is perhaps because you have lost previous plantings. Actually I am buying and planting on behalf of clients - I'm happy to stake my reputation on Rachel's plants and advice. pk |
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In message , Paul Kelly
writes "Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... In message , Paul Kelly writes Completely irrelevant. However, the thought does occur to me that the reason you're having to order more clematis is perhaps because you have lost previous plantings. Actually I am buying and planting on behalf of clients - I'm happy to stake my reputation on Rachel's plants and advice. Fine. Just make sure you don't plant just before a wet spell :-) Relying on others for your own reputation can be, IMHO, a recipe of disaster in business. -- Tony Morgan |
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In article , Tony Morgan
writes In message , Paul Kelly writes "Tony Morgan" wrote in message ... In message , Paul Kelly writes Completely irrelevant. However, the thought does occur to me that the reason you're having to order more clematis is perhaps because you have lost previous plantings. Actually I am buying and planting on behalf of clients - I'm happy to stake my reputation on Rachel's plants and advice. Fine. Just make sure you don't plant just before a wet spell :-) Relying on others for your own reputation can be, IMHO, a recipe of disaster in business. As can be insisting on manufacturing all your supplies yourself as opposed to obtaining them from good specialist suppliers. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/ |
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