this is a good read at the very least, but i have always tried to
encourage people buying lawn equipment etc.,. to buy from a specialist
shop and that they should find a shop where expereince abounds (can be
hard but listen for word of mouth in your locale).

the models sold in discounter shops are special models made for that
price range, it is a little sad that rover and masport find they have
to grasp on to market share and provide models for those markets.

the story is about snapper we used to sell them then they stopped
exporting to australia ??

but a good rule of thumb is buy the manufacturers who don't sell their
integrity out by competing in the discount market. when i was a
mechanic it was a trap then for the buyer purchasing a mower in a box
and i reckon that won't have changed the trap may even have gotten
bigger.

the link:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/...n_snapper.html


With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/gardenlen1

"gardenlen" wrote in message
...
this is a good read at the very least, but i have always tried to
encourage people buying lawn equipment etc.,. to buy from a specialist
shop and that they should find a shop where expereince abounds (can be
hard but listen for word of mouth in your locale).

the models sold in discounter shops are special models made for that
price range, it is a little sad that rover and masport find they have
to grasp on to market share and provide models for those markets.

the story is about snapper we used to sell them then they stopped
exporting to australia ??

but a good rule of thumb is buy the manufacturers who don't sell their
integrity out by competing in the discount market. when i was a
mechanic it was a trap then for the buyer purchasing a mower in a box
and i reckon that won't have changed the trap may even have gotten
bigger.

the link:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/...n_snapper.html


With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/gardenlen1



I was after a coil for a Jonsered HT21 hedgetrimmer. So I ring Electrolux
the distributer of them in Australia. Turns out it is now run by Husqvarna
(but still Electrolux just the outdoor division). So I ring them and i find
out I can only buy that part from a Husqvarna dealer. I ring my local dealer
only to find out he doesn't deal Jonsered parts. So eventually I find a
Jonsered dealer who wants $90 for the coil.

The coil is made by Phelon in America and they have only 7 distrubuters
throughout the world. Guess what none in Australia! So I am thinking the
part I want is worth $20 but after travelling all over the world and going
through so many hands and so much gst I am getting ripped off. Is like car
parts and pvc retic fittings.

So looks like I have to pay for guys expensive missus's and Mercedes Benz
while I live on a beer budget.

Rant End.

g'day loosecannon,

yes that is quiet common in garden equipment departments, i had a
jonsered22.5cc brushcutter it had a mitsubishi motor on it and gave
full on service requiring only the odd spark plug here and there. and
why would anyone buy a motorised product from say eloctrolux?? they
make vacuum cleaners hey so how do you know who the original maker of
the machine or it's engine is?? like one mower company from when it
was aussie owned and run by the family, to now when it isn't they only
every made rotary mowers but they sell a full range of garden
equipment.

but the thing i am trying to get gardeners to think about is do some
homework and stear clear of badge models, because the original
manufacturer of the item will be vague to begin with and buying from
discounters they just quote from the glossy pamphlets provided by the
onwer of the brand name, and have absolutely no experience on the
reliability or other of anything they sell. or any advice on proper
maintanance.

ther are some classic examples of garden machinery in the market place
mostly at the discounters all sorts of names some familiar for their
equipment in otehr fields, tried to research one such mower and could
get no handle on who manufactured the frame or the motor having now
seen one i can see all. people realy don't know what they are buying.

also manufacturers who provide their own models or badge models to the
discounters are the ones, that i am saying to people about when you
buy their equipment be careful, these manufacturers have sold out
quality and integrity of sometimes good equipment for the magic buck,
plus they aren't supporting those specialist retailer who are selling
their naturally more expensive top of the range quality models.



snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/gardenlen1

Guess what none in Australia!

I think for a couple of slabs of VB [or voucher] i can find you one no
problems

"loosecanon" wrote in message

So looks like I have to pay for guys expensive missus's and Mercedes Benz
while I live on a beer budget.

Rant End.

Some of us have to buy our own Mercedes Benz............surely someone you
know could exercise creativity of the shed?

J.

"The Lady Gardener" wrote in message
...

"loosecanon" wrote in message

So looks like I have to pay for guys expensive missus's and Mercedes Benz
while I live on a beer budget.

Rant End.

Some of us have to buy our own Mercedes Benz............surely someone you
know could exercise creativity of the shed?

J.




My Jonsered HT21 is sitting in your father's shed!

"gardenlen" wrote in message
...
g'day loosecannon,

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why would anyone buy a motorised product from say eloctrolux?? they
make vacuum cleaners hey so how do you know who the original maker of
the machine or it's engine is??

snipped
With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/gardenlen1

Hi Len,

Not that it makes much difference, but Electrolux are actually the biggest
whitegoods manufacturer in the world. They own the Westinghouse, Kelvinator,
Simpson and Frigidaire brands and many others as well as their Electrolux
vacuum cleaners. As well they have their finger in many other pies as the
reference to Jonsered and Husqvarna show.
However, you are basically correct, they have little interest in supplying
replacement parts and any examination of their business methods would show
that they are reducing their service and parts commitment in Australia to a
minimum.

Blessings to you too.

"The Lady Gardener" wrote in message
...

"loosecanon" wrote in message

So looks like I have to pay for guys expensive missus's and Mercedes Benz
while I live on a beer budget.

Rant End.

Some of us have to buy our own Mercedes Benz............surely someone you
know could exercise creativity of the shed?

J.

Dear Lady Gardener,

I thought that your comment was advice to the effect that the loosecannon
(always dangerous types) should exercise some ingenuity and improvise with
an alternative coil for his broken toy. Which was my thought, but I decided
that he would not appreciate it.

But he has come back with an inscrutable reply. Is it really in your
Fathers's shed. Did I miss something between the lines?

My Jonsered HT21 is sitting in your father's shed!



poor thing - it will never see light of day again!

"leftred" wrote in message
...


Dear Lady Gardener,

I thought that your comment was advice to the effect that the loosecannon
(always dangerous types) should exercise some ingenuity and improvise with
an alternative coil for his broken toy. Which was my thought, but I decided
that he would not appreciate it.

But he has come back with an inscrutable reply. Is it really in your
Fathers's shed. Did I miss something between the lines?


So sorry leftred - there was a lot in-between the lines on that one, added
to which I had a very blonde moment and replied to group rather than to
Loosecannon.

The shed to which I referred is indeed my father's shed and is known to both
the loosecannon and myself. It can be a place of ingenuity and
improvisation. However there is the infinite possibility that the ailing
equipment will never see light of day again, or if it does it may be
reincarnated as a bird feeder, a pedal car, a talking donkey or a magicians
cupboard.

j.

"The Lady Gardener" wrote in message
...


My Jonsered HT21 is sitting in your father's shed!



poor thing - it will never see light of day again!


Your Mum will throw it out or paint it!

"The Lady Gardener" wrote in message
...

"leftred" wrote in message
...


Dear Lady Gardener,

I thought that your comment was advice to the effect that the loosecannon
(always dangerous types) should exercise some ingenuity and improvise with
an alternative coil for his broken toy. Which was my thought, but I
decided
that he would not appreciate it.

But he has come back with an inscrutable reply. Is it really in your
Fathers's shed. Did I miss something between the lines?


So sorry leftred - there was a lot in-between the lines on that one, added
to which I had a very blonde moment and replied to group rather than to
Loosecannon.

The shed to which I referred is indeed my father's shed and is known to
both
the loosecannon and myself. It can be a place of ingenuity and
improvisation. However there is the infinite possibility that the ailing
equipment will never see light of day again, or if it does it may be
reincarnated as a bird feeder, a pedal car, a talking donkey or a
magicians
cupboard.

j.



Egads I had this terrible thought that my hedgetrimmer will become a
swordfish and be packed up and sent to the US of A. Only to be discarded in
the snow (now 15feet deep) by your nephew.

Me wants a magicians cupboard but I'll pass on the donkey it talks from both
ends.

Rant infinitum

LC MMVI

loosecanon wrote:
"gardenlen" wrote in message
...

this is a good read at the very least, but i have always tried to
encourage people buying lawn equipment etc.,. to buy from a specialist
shop and that they should find a shop where expereince abounds (can be
hard but listen for word of mouth in your locale).

the models sold in discounter shops are special models made for that
price range, it is a little sad that rover and masport find they have
to grasp on to market share and provide models for those markets.

the story is about snapper we used to sell them then they stopped
exporting to australia ??

but a good rule of thumb is buy the manufacturers who don't sell their
integrity out by competing in the discount market. when i was a
mechanic it was a trap then for the buyer purchasing a mower in a box
and i reckon that won't have changed the trap may even have gotten
bigger.

the link:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/...n_snapper.html


With peace and brightest of blessings,

len

--
"Be Content With What You Have And
May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
A World That You May Not Understand."

http://www.users.bigpond.com/gardenlen1




I was after a coil for a Jonsered HT21 hedgetrimmer. So I ring Electrolux
the distributer of them in Australia. Turns out it is now run by Husqvarna
(but still Electrolux just the outdoor division). So I ring them and i find
out I can only buy that part from a Husqvarna dealer. I ring my local dealer
only to find out he doesn't deal Jonsered parts. So eventually I find a
Jonsered dealer who wants $90 for the coil.

The coil is made by Phelon in America and they have only 7 distrubuters
throughout the world. Guess what none in Australia! So I am thinking the
part I want is worth $20 but after travelling all over the world and going
through so many hands and so much gst I am getting ripped off. Is like car
parts and pvc retic fittings.

So looks like I have to pay for guys expensive missus's and Mercedes Benz
while I live on a beer budget.

Rant End.


Re the coil, go and see your "friendly" mower mechanic, and ask him if
there's an equivalant coul on the market. I bet ya there is. Or a
wrecked machine which has one still usable.