In a message dated 8/4/2003 5:45:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:

Im new to Bonsai, only 3 years in the hobby, and my 6yr Chinese Elm
has lost all but 4 leaves, and those leaves have yellowed, except one,
which is green.

There are two possibilities. 1. Chinese Elm can be deciduous depending
upon the variety and cultivar. It depends upon how cold it gets and for how
long.
2. It could be root damage. If you have continued to water on a schedule as
the temperature cools and the tree is not growing and the sun is not drying
you may have overwatered.
In my experience Chinese Elm do recover if watering is the problem and
it is reduced.
Billy on the Florida Space Coast

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Hi Everyone

Im new to Bonsai, only 3 years in the hobby, and my 6yr Chinese
Elm
has lost all but 4 leaves, and those leaves have yellowed,
except one,
which is green. It is winter here, in Australia, and only
certain
trees (not many) loose their leaves... The reason I ask, is
that I
have a 6mo's old Chinese Elm seedling,(Two trunked), which has
kept
some of its leaves, but theyve stayed green and shiny. What do
I do
with my older one, so it doesn't die? Ive not kept it throughb
a
winter before. It is outdoors. Do I bring them indoors and keep
them
under lighting during the winter? What do I do so its leaves
come
back?


If you're from the colder part of Australia, your tree is
probably just losing its leaves for the winter. Yellow is a
good, natural color for elm leaves to turn before they fall.
Black or brown would be more worrisome.

As Billy said, though, ease off on the watering during winter
because trees without leaves don't use anywhere near as much
water. You should even cut back on watering for the tree that
still has leaves. With or without leaves, most trees snooze
during the winter.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase
'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman

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Good Day to All,
HMMM,

seems as though the southern Chinese elm has
quite a range.On this side,leaves don't fall unless
the tree has been dried out for to long and then
it's the internal foliage that falls.

Normally,the leaves get old in appearance,cracks
and tracks of brown appear on the leaves,then
you know you have to take them off by hand.
About 2 weeks later bright green buds appear
all over.
This also happens with the Catlin.

Easy tree to grow.Roots as cuttings give beautiful
trees.A friend gave me a beautiful root of a Seiju
as a gift.Thus far it has done well.

Placement for my elms is full sun to light shade,soil
is freely drainingbut heavier on the home-made
compost,and out doors.As our weather goes cooler,
the rains fall away.December is often a drier month.
Elms,love em.
Khaimraj
[West Indies/Caribbean,
we are soggy again - chuckle.]


-----Original Message-----
From: wsallen
To:
Date: 13 August 2003 22:46
Subject: [IBC] My Chinese Elm [Please Help]


Nevyn wrote in message . ..
Hi Everyone

Im new to Bonsai, only 3 years in the hobby, and my 6yr Chinese Elm
has lost all but 4 leaves, and those leaves have yellowed, except one,
which is green. It is winter here, in Australia, and only certain
trees (not many) loose their leaves... The reason I ask, is that I
have a 6mo's old Chinese Elm seedling,(Two trunked), which has kept
some of its leaves, but theyve stayed green and shiny. What do I do
with my older one, so it doesn't die? Ive not kept it throughb a

Hi Nevyn,

Do you read Katherine Kerr?

I'm in Perth. My elms sometimes lose all their leaves, sometimes put out
*bunches* of new leaves in the *middle* of winter and sometimes lose half
their leaves. I have observed that the thicker the trunk the more likely
the
tree is to retain its leaves. An example being my 'big' elm, which when I
planted it 3.5-4 years ago was a 1.5mm twig, the first year it lost
everything - now it is ~2cm wide and does not lose leaves much.

All my elms which retain leaves through winter do not have as many leaves
as
in summer.

Yours sound like they're ok. Don't overwater or let it stand where the rain
will overwater for you . Leave it outdoors. BTW which state are you in?

Cheers,
Heidi Aussie

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Good Day to All,
HMMM,

seems as though the southern Chinese elm has
quite a range.On this side,leaves don't fall unless
the tree has been dried out for to long and then
it's the internal foliage that falls.

Normally,the leaves get old in appearance,cracks
and tracks of brown appear on the leaves,then
you know you have to take them off by hand.
About 2 weeks later bright green buds appear
all over.
This also happens with the Catlin.

Easy tree to grow.Roots as cuttings give beautiful
trees.A friend gave me a beautiful root of a Seiju
as a gift.Thus far it has done well.

Placement for my elms is full sun to light shade,soil
is freely drainingbut heavier on the home-made
compost,and out doors.As our weather goes cooler,
the rains fall away.December is often a drier month.
Elms,love em.
Khaimraj
[West Indies/Caribbean,
we are soggy again - chuckle.]


-----Original Message-----
From: wsallen
To:
Date: 13 August 2003 22:46
Subject: [IBC] My Chinese Elm [Please Help]


Nevyn wrote in message . ..
Hi Everyone

Im new to Bonsai, only 3 years in the hobby, and my 6yr Chinese Elm
has lost all but 4 leaves, and those leaves have yellowed, except one,
which is green. It is winter here, in Australia, and only certain
trees (not many) loose their leaves... The reason I ask, is that I
have a 6mo's old Chinese Elm seedling,(Two trunked), which has kept
some of its leaves, but theyve stayed green and shiny. What do I do
with my older one, so it doesn't die? Ive not kept it throughb a

Hi Nevyn,

Do you read Katherine Kerr?

I'm in Perth. My elms sometimes lose all their leaves, sometimes put out
*bunches* of new leaves in the *middle* of winter and sometimes lose half
their leaves. I have observed that the thicker the trunk the more likely
the
tree is to retain its leaves. An example being my 'big' elm, which when I
planted it 3.5-4 years ago was a 1.5mm twig, the first year it lost
everything - now it is ~2cm wide and does not lose leaves much.

All my elms which retain leaves through winter do not have as many leaves
as
in summer.

Yours sound like they're ok. Don't overwater or let it stand where the rain
will overwater for you . Leave it outdoors. BTW which state are you in?

Cheers,
Heidi Aussie

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