I VERY rarely voice an opinion on this list but exactly WHAT here "appears to
be propagated by seemingly few members?" Someone--who possibly has someone
close serving overseas-- submitted a post, the contents of which were clearly
identified. Even after opening it, one had a choice of whether or not to
download the link; it was also CLEARLY IDENTIFIED as off-topic. What's the big deal
here? I belong to a number of lists--no one seems to have a problem with
off-topic posts, as long as they're identified as such and.
As regards spam, despite its driving me crazy, I'm with AOheLl for the long
haul. Its spam filter is extremely effective once you customize it; I get
virtually none of the junk other subscribers mention, not even in my spam folder.
Whatever does slip through is easily disposed of with a click of the "delete"
button and non-spam, once identified as such, never ends up in the spam folder
again. I'm sure that other ISP's provide similar services.
I really wouldn't like to think that it's the particular subject of the
"offending" post that has some members up in arms. Do ALL off-topic posts receive
such vociferous objections or have I just overlooked them? Have these been ones
"propagated by seemingly just a few members?"
Karen Kletter
In a message dated 1/5/05 10:07:32 AM, writes:

These appear to be propagated by seemingly just a few members,
not just trolls as Jim describes.

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I VERY rarely voice an opinion on this list but exactly WHAT here "appears to
be propagated by seemingly few members?" Someone--who possibly has someone
close serving overseas-- submitted a post, the contents of which were clearly
identified. Even after opening it, one had a choice of whether or not to
download the link; it was also CLEARLY IDENTIFIED as off-topic. What's the big deal
here? I belong to a number of lists--no one seems to have a problem with
off-topic posts, as long as they're identified as such and.
As regards spam, despite its driving me crazy, I'm with AOheLl for the long
haul. Its spam filter is extremely effective once you customize it; I get
virtually none of the junk other subscribers mention, not even in my spam folder.
Whatever does slip through is easily disposed of with a click of the "delete"
button and non-spam, once identified as such, never ends up in the spam folder
again. I'm sure that other ISP's provide similar services.
I really wouldn't like to think that it's the particular subject of the
"offending" post that has some members up in arms. Do ALL off-topic posts receive
such vociferous objections or have I just overlooked them? Have these been ones
"propagated by seemingly just a few members?"
Karen Kletter
In a message dated 1/5/05 10:07:32 AM, writes:

These appear to be propagated by seemingly just a few members,
not just trolls as Jim describes.

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On 06/01/2005 12:24:18, wrote:
What evidence is there that the link between the IBC email list and
rec.arts.bonsai does any good for the list, the IBC, bonsai in general
or anything touching on our subject?

Well, several of our active members are reading/posting through the
newsgroup rather than the list, mainly because they can't handle the volume
of mail. Admitedly that volume has slowed some from what it used to be, but
*I* certainly believe we get more benefit from being gatewayed that way than
not, despite the occasional spams and "stuff".

Just my 2 kiwi cents.

Nic


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And as far as spam yes i get it also but my filters send it straight to
the trash so it doesn't bother me.

Ben

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And as far as spam yes i get it also but my filters send it straight to
the trash so it doesn't bother me.

Ben

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In a message dated 1/5/2005 10:06:14 AM Central Standard Time,
writes:

So I've never considered that a real option. If you have good
spam filters, a good ISP (NOT AOL, MSN etc.), and spyware/virus
protection all the newsgroup adds is a little aggravation on
fairly rare occasions.


I rarely get spam anymore on AOL, now my email at work which supposedly has
firewalls and all the "good" corporate restrictions gets about 75 spam offers
a day.

Bill

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In a message dated 1/5/2005 10:06:14 AM Central Standard Time,
writes:

So I've never considered that a real option. If you have good
spam filters, a good ISP (NOT AOL, MSN etc.), and spyware/virus
protection all the newsgroup adds is a little aggravation on
fairly rare occasions.


I rarely get spam anymore on AOL, now my email at work which supposedly has
firewalls and all the "good" corporate restrictions gets about 75 spam offers
a day.

Bill

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