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Will solarization kill bamboo?
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Gary Woods wrote: "Mary Fisher" wrote: Don't use another language unless you're familiar with it ... :-) Does this mean I can't even use English v. American? (Maybe Charlie meant "seize the carp.") Or carp the day, or what a carpie day it is, or carp on them;-) This is a phrase that the fish monger in Asterix could use when the blacksmith tell him that his fish aren't fresh. The fish monger usually says that the previous year was an outstanding year for fish, and then hits the blacksmith with one:-) Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G -- Billy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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Will solarization kill bamboo?
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, Billy wrote: In article , "Mary Fisher" wrote: "General Schvantzkopf" wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 May 2008 11:09:08 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote: "General Schvantzkopf" wrote in message . .. My old garden (14'x60') has two problems, on the left side where I've been growing green vegetables I have a terrible bamboo problem. On the right side where I've been growing tomatoes I have a wilt problem. I have a new garden (15'x20') this year so I'm planning on letting at least part of my old garden lay fallow. I'm going to solarize the tomato side to kill the wilt pathogens. I've been using roundup on the bamboo but it's never been able to eliminate it. I was wondering if solarization would kill bamboo? It's supposed to be pretty effective against weeds as well as pathogens so it might work. On the other hand the bamboo might just punch it's way through the plastic. One more question about solarization in general, does it work in New England? The papers I see on the web are from UC Davis. Ma is a lot cooler than Ca. For solarization to work it needs to get the soil temperature pretty high, will it get high enough here? What's solarization? Mary Solarization is done by covering the garden with clear plastic for the entire summer. The plastic acts as a greenhouse so it raises the temperature of the soil to 110F. Thank you. It would also keep the soil dry though, which isn't good for most plants. Mary, the point is to sterilize the ground, to get rid of vegetative pests. So, yeah, it wouldn't be good for any plant under the plastic. A little moisture though, would probably help in the transfer of heat. Hm. Might try that on the main garden bed this year to finish killing out the bindweed and wild sunflower. I intend to ONLY container garden this year (except for Okra out front) so I could lay down heavy mil plastic and put the pots on top of that. I won't have to weed! (happy dance!) -- -- Peace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch." -- Jack Nicholson |
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Will solarization kill bamboo?
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"Mary Fisher" wrote: Charlie wrote in message ... Carpie Diem Carpe diem. Don't use another language unless you're familiar with it ... :-) Mary From another thread dear. ;-) Seize the fish... -- -- Peace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch." -- Jack Nicholson |
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phorbin wrote: In article , says... In article , "Mary Fisher" wrote: Charlie wrote in message ... Carpie Diem Carpe diem. Don't use another language unless you're familiar with it ... :-) Mary From another thread dear. ;-) Seize the fish... No... that's Carpe Crappie. or Carpe Piscis ...then there's Crappie Diem. Catfish Diem? -- -- Peace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch." -- Jack Nicholson |
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Will solarization kill bamboo?
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On Mon, 5 May 2008 19:49:00 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: Charlie wrote in message .. . Carpie Diem Carpe diem. Don't use another language unless you're familiar with it ... :-) Mary Don't be pedantic and critical about someone's language usage, or intentional misuse, until you are certain that the person, with whom you are not familiar, doesn't know what they are about. :-) Have you been reading the other thread about my eating carp and the resultant hilarity that is developing over carp being made into fertilizer? CharlieCarp, to be precise. Thus.... carpie diem....playing with words with Billy, who knows what/who/when/where/why is what. *Now* I am off to build fence. Charlie Now don't be down my good friend, you brought a lot of smiles to many faces today, faces that need as many smiles as they can get. Good on you, mi amigo. -- Billy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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Will solarization kill bamboo?
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, Billy wrote: In article , Charlie wrote: On Mon, 5 May 2008 19:49:00 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: Charlie wrote in message .. . Carpie Diem Carpe diem. Don't use another language unless you're familiar with it ... :-) Mary Don't be pedantic and critical about someone's language usage, or intentional misuse, until you are certain that the person, with whom you are not familiar, doesn't know what they are about. :-) Have you been reading the other thread about my eating carp and the resultant hilarity that is developing over carp being made into fertilizer? CharlieCarp, to be precise. Thus.... carpie diem....playing with words with Billy, who knows what/who/when/where/why is what. *Now* I am off to build fence. Charlie Now don't be down my good friend, you brought a lot of smiles to many faces today, faces that need as many smiles as they can get. Good on you, mi amigo. Nothing wrong with a good laugh. :-) -- -- Peace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch." -- Jack Nicholson |
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"General Schvantzkopf" wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 May 2008 15:21:12 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote: .... What's solarization? Mary Solarization is done by covering the garden with clear plastic for the entire summer. The plastic acts as a greenhouse so it raises the temperature of the soil to 110F. Thank you. It would also keep the soil dry though, which isn't good for most plants. Mary It's not supposed to be good for the plants that are there, it's supposed to kill them. Solarization is a means of sterilizing the soil, the idea is to cook the fungi, weeds and other undesirable pests out of the soil. It takes the whole summer so you can't use that piece of garden again until the next year. I have enough garden space so that I can afford to let some land lay fallow and I'm keen to give solarization a try assuming it can work in my area. It's apparently a very effective technique in the hot parts of the country, but it's not clear that it will work here in Massachusetts which is why I'm asking if anyone has used it in a New England like climate. I've been thinking about this reply. It seems to me that not only would you kill fungi, weeds and undesirable pests, you'd also kill fauna which you want. And weeds would re-establish themselves by seeding. It doesn't seem a good idea to me. How long has it been practised? I suppose if you have a lot of land it's practicable, providing you don't mind killing everything. Mary |
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Will solarization kill bamboo?
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"Mary Fisher" wrote: "General Schvantzkopf" wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 May 2008 15:21:12 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote: ... What's solarization? Mary Solarization is done by covering the garden with clear plastic for the entire summer. The plastic acts as a greenhouse so it raises the temperature of the soil to 110F. Thank you. It would also keep the soil dry though, which isn't good for most plants. Mary It's not supposed to be good for the plants that are there, it's supposed to kill them. Solarization is a means of sterilizing the soil, the idea is to cook the fungi, weeds and other undesirable pests out of the soil. It takes the whole summer so you can't use that piece of garden again until the next year. I have enough garden space so that I can afford to let some land lay fallow and I'm keen to give solarization a try assuming it can work in my area. It's apparently a very effective technique in the hot parts of the country, but it's not clear that it will work here in Massachusetts which is why I'm asking if anyone has used it in a New England like climate. I've been thinking about this reply. It seems to me that not only would you kill fungi, weeds and undesirable pests, you'd also kill fauna which you want. And weeds would re-establish themselves by seeding. It doesn't seem a good idea to me. How long has it been practised? I suppose if you have a lot of land it's practicable, providing you don't mind killing everything. Mary You're right, if you simply removed the plastic and don't do anything else to the ground. But, once the ground has been sterilized, so to speak, you can either cover it in three or more inches of mulch, and plant what ever your little heart desires, or leave the plastic in place, and cut openings in it, where you wish to place your plants (good to install drip irrigation if you do this). -- Billy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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Will solarization kill bamboo?
In article , Charlie says...
On Mon, 5 May 2008 18:09:28 -0500, phorbin wrote: ...then there's Crappie Diem. Not really, all in all it was a pretty good day. ;-) Charlie ....sounds fishie to me. |
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Will solarization kill bamboo?
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phorbin wrote: In article , Charlie says... On Mon, 5 May 2008 18:09:28 -0500, phorbin wrote: ...then there's Crappie Diem. Not really, all in all it was a pretty good day. ;-) Charlie ...sounds fishie to me. Oh now don't carp about it please! -- -- Peace! Om "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch." -- Jack Nicholson |
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