In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue. All the fixes suggested here had no effect. I was
distraught.

Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).

Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots. I
await further developments and I will post them here. Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.

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"www.locoworks.com" wrote:

In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue.
When a deficiency in phosphorous exists, particular
symptoms can include:
Tomatoes:- Leaves dark green, purple underneath.
Very slow growth.
All the fixes suggested here had no effect. I was
distraught.

Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).

Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots.
I believe I suggested ventilation which would also carry off some of the
mold inducing humidity.
I
await further developments and I will post them here. Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

On Jul 4, 6:07�pm, Billy wrote:

I believe I suggested ventilation which would also carry off some of the
mold inducing humidity. I

An excellent suggestion, which I followed, with no change in the
condition of the plants. The plants are not moldy, they are just
spindly and listless-looking, with purple leaves.

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"www.locoworks.com" wrote:

On Jul 4, 6:07?pm, Billy wrote:

I believe I suggested ventilation which would also carry off some of the
mold inducing humidity.
Moisture and heat will generate mold. Wait for it.
I

An excellent suggestion, which I followed, with no change in the
condition of the plants. The plants are not moldy, they are just
spindly and listless-looking, with purple leaves.

So was the soil outside of your greenhouse as hot as it was inside?
I doubt it, if there was ventilation.

Good luck.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

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In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue. All the fixes suggested here had no effect. I was
distraught.

Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).

Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots. I
await further developments and I will post them here. Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.

You can drag them outside and spray paint the pots white. Use Fuse if
they're plastic pots.

"www.locoworks.com" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 6:07�pm, Billy wrote:

I believe I suggested ventilation which would also carry off some of the
mold inducing humidity. I

An excellent suggestion, which I followed, with no change in the
condition of the plants. The plants are not moldy, they are just
spindly and listless-looking, with purple leaves.


Why are you growing them in a greenhouse when it's summer? They do much
better outside in the fresh air and even better when planted in the ground.

On Jul 5, 4:18�am, "Marie Dodge" wrote:

Why are you growing them in a greenhouse when it's summer? They do much
better outside in the fresh air and even better when planted in the ground.


This is in northern California, on the coast, near the Oregon border.
Outside daytime temperature yesterday was 64F at high noon outside,
80F in the greenhouse, with all three vents open. If I was planting
them in the ground I'd need to break through the permafrost with a
pickaxe first... well maybe, not quite, but you get the idea.

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"www.locoworks.com" wrote:

On Jul 5, 4:18?am, "Marie Dodge" wrote:

Why are you growing them in a greenhouse when it's summer? They do much
better outside in the fresh air and even better when planted in the ground.


This is in northern California, on the coast, near the Oregon border.
Outside daytime temperature yesterday was 64F at high noon outside,
80F in the greenhouse, with all three vents open.
First you tell us that the pots have the temperature of hot coffee.
Then, that greenhouse is 80F and that it is 64F outside. There seems
to be no way to get an intelligible answer out of you, so I bid you good
day.

If I was planting
them in the ground I'd need to break through the permafrost with a
pickaxe first... well maybe, not quite, but you get the idea.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

On Jul 5, 10:41�am, Billy wrote:


First you tell us that the pots have the temperature of hot coffee.
Then, that greenhouse is 80F and that it is 64F outside. There seems
to be no way to get an intelligible answer out of you, so I bid you good
day.


Billy, the pots were in direct sunlight yesterday. The thermometer
was not. If these facts are not intelligible to you I will happily
wave goodbye to you as you bid good day.

I have just returned from the greenhouse, where the air temperature is
86F. A finger thrust into the pots finds moist soil that is warm, not
hot, a great improvement over yesterday. Shading the pots may be the
simple solution to the tomato travail. Time will tell.

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"www.locoworks.com" wrote:

In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue. All the fixes suggested here had no effect. I was
distraught.

Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).

Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots. I
await further developments and I will post them here. Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.

You need to open up more ventilation in the greenhouse, and consider
some shade cloth over the roof.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

On Jul 5, 9:15�pm, Omelet wrote:
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�"www.locoworks.com" wrote:
In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue. �All the fixes suggested here had no effect. �I was
distraught.

Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. �I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. �It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. �The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).

Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots. �I
await further developments and I will post them here. �Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.

You need to open up more ventilation in the greenhouse, and consider
some shade cloth over the roof.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

Omelet,

I have considered shade cloth over the greenhouse, but I fear that the
reduction in sunlight would not be beneficial to the plants, We are
in a coastal area and have fog and overcast a good part of the time.
The problem seemed to be that when we do have full sun it raised the
temperature of the soil in the pots (not the plants) too high.
Shading the pots seems to be accomplishing this. I await further
developments.

There is a large hatch in the roof and one at each end of the
greenhouse. All three are open and there is no condensation inside.
The only way to increase the ventilation would be with a fire axe.

www.locoworks.com wrote:
On Jul 5, 9:15�pm, Omelet wrote:
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�"www.locoworks.com" wrote:
In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue. �All the fixes suggested here had no effect. �I was
distraught.
Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. �I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. �It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. �The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).
Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots. �I
await further developments and I will post them here. �Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.
You need to open up more ventilation in the greenhouse, and consider
some shade cloth over the roof.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

Omelet,

I have considered shade cloth over the greenhouse, but I fear that the
reduction in sunlight would not be beneficial to the plants, We are
in a coastal area and have fog and overcast a good part of the time.
The problem seemed to be that when we do have full sun it raised the
temperature of the soil in the pots (not the plants) too high.
Shading the pots seems to be accomplishing this. I await further
developments.

There is a large hatch in the roof and one at each end of the
greenhouse. All three are open and there is no condensation inside.
The only way to increase the ventilation would be with a fire axe.

Shade cloth is available in a wide variety of percentage filtering, one
does not need to go to 95% shade when 40% will do. I don't know where
you are on the planet but we are fortunate in SA to have such a wide
variety available, and in different colours too.

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"www.locoworks.com" wrote:

On Jul 5, 9:15?pm, Omelet wrote:
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?"www.locoworks.com" wrote:
In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue. ?All the fixes suggested here had no effect. ?I was
distraught.

Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. ?I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. ?It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. ?The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).

Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots. ?I
await further developments and I will post them here. ?Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.

You need to open up more ventilation in the greenhouse, and consider
some shade cloth over the roof.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

Omelet,

I have considered shade cloth over the greenhouse, but I fear that the
reduction in sunlight would not be beneficial to the plants, We are
in a coastal area and have fog and overcast a good part of the time.
The problem seemed to be that when we do have full sun it raised the
temperature of the soil in the pots (not the plants) too high.
Shading the pots seems to be accomplishing this. I await further
developments.

There is a large hatch in the roof and one at each end of the
greenhouse. All three are open and there is no condensation inside.
The only way to increase the ventilation would be with a fire axe.

Just trying to help...

I live in Texas and have greenhouses.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

On Jul 6, 7:50�am, Omelet wrote:
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�"www.locoworks.com" wrote:
On Jul 5, 9:15?pm, Omelet wrote:
In article
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?"www.locoworks.com" wrote:
In past posts I bewailed the poor performance of the tomatoes in my
greenhouse, with their leaves turning over and changing to a vivid
purple hue. ?All the fixes suggested here had no effect. ?I was
distraught.

Today, just after noon, I was in the greenhouse. ?I went to check the
soil moisture by sticking my finger in the pots. ?It was moist all
right, but it was uncomfortably hot as well. ?The sun beating on the
pots had raised the soil to the temperature of hot coffee (or tea, if
you prefer).

Now, I have rigged some heavy plastic board to shade the pots. ?I
await further developments and I will post them here. ?Thanks to those
of you who have kept with me so far.

You need to open up more ventilation in the greenhouse, and consider
some shade cloth over the roof.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

Omelet,

I have considered shade cloth over the greenhouse, but I fear that the
reduction in sunlight would not be beneficial to the plants, �We are
in a coastal area and have fog and overcast a good part of the time.
The problem seemed to be that when we do have full sun it raised the
temperature of the soil in the pots (not the plants) too high.
Shading the pots seems to be accomplishing this. �I await further
developments.

There is a large hatch in the roof and one at each end of the
greenhouse. �All three are open and there is no condensation inside.
The only way to increase the ventilation would be with a fire axe.

Just trying to help...

I live in Texas and have greenhouses.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein- Hide quoted text -

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Omelet,

Are you on the Texas coast, or more inland?

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"www.locoworks.com" wrote:

The only way to increase the ventilation would be with a fire axe.

Excellent idea.

Make it 1' to 2' above the ground.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related