"Sacha" wrote in message
...
Forefront was launched three years ago and Britain was the first European
country to use it. Last year, some professional potato growers lost crops
after spreading manure. An emergency education campaign, aimed at
livestock
farmers, vegetable growers and spraying and spreading contractors solved
that problem."

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...re-poison.4209
491.jp

There goes any manure I might have been able to find.

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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 11/9/08 03:45, in article
laccess, "gunner"
wrote:


"The alert is mainly about a substance called aminopryalid in an
agricultural herbicide called Forefront - although similar substances may
be
causing similar effects.
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Thank you Sacha. To date doesn't seem to be much info here.

BTW nice plant selections you have.

Gunner, WA State zone 8a

"Dee" wrote in message
om...

Ed

Fresh manure can be used as a top mulch, but IME it's very important
to make sure the manure does not directly touch any plants, as it
will cause problems (burning, stunting) otherwise. Top mulching of
the manure allows rain water to seep through it and down to the roots
of the plants, effectively giving them 'manure tea', while the
wormies go to work incorporating it into the soil. It may be that by
next spring there will be nothing left to turn under into the soil,
as the worms will have done it for you. That has been my experience,
anyway.

Dee


I will have to make it clear that in tree biology workshops it was often
stated that manure should compost before using as well as fresh wood chips.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
"The alert is mainly about a substance called aminopryalid in an
agricultural herbicide called Forefront - although similar substances may
be
causing similar effects.


Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and leaves
and needles.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.

The message
from "symplastless" contains these words:

Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

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Rusty
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On 11/9/08 18:31, in article
laccess, "gunner"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 11/9/08 03:45, in article
laccess, "gunner"
wrote:


"The alert is mainly about a substance called aminopryalid in an
agricultural herbicide called Forefront - although similar substances may
be
causing similar effects.
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Thank you Sacha. To date doesn't seem to be much info here.

BTW nice plant selections you have.

Gunner, WA State zone 8a


I hope the extract was helpful and thank you for the kind remark!


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message
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The message
from "symplastless" contains these words:

Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and
leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

--
Rusty


That's the best you get from the yard boy.

"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message
from "symplastless" contains these words:

Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and
leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

Don't worry about it Rusty. Symplastless never makes sense and only those
who don't recognise the name ever bother to read him/her.

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Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and
leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

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That's the best you get from the yard boy.

And the removal od separators and sigs would be appreciated, granddad.

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"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message
from "symplastless" contains these words:

Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and
leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

Don't worry about it Rusty. Symplastless never makes sense and only those
who don't recognise the name ever bother to read him/her.

One supposes that his contributions match the (best) scrapings from his yard

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"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
"The alert is mainly about a substance called aminopryalid in an
agricultural herbicide called Forefront - although similar substances may
be
causing similar effects.


Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and leaves
and needles.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.

Like John A. Keslick, Jr!

Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and
other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.

"D. Staples" wrote in message
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"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message
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The message
from "symplastless" contains these words:

Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and
leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

--
Rusty


That's the best you get from the yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Mr. Yard Boy to you Don Staples, you know how we do things around here.
Remember, there is nothing a matter with being a yard boy especially when
you have a back ground in tree biology. Now claiming to be a consulting
forester and defining a forest as a single stand or group of trees under one
or more ownerships is silly to say the least. Not having a clue as to mulch
chemistry in a forest and claiming to be a consulting forester is fraud.
That means if I put two small trees in a trash can, I have created a forest.
That's your words and not mine.

We need pre-forester like pre-med with tree biology being a must! BTW my
definition of a forest is in my dictionary. You don't have to agree but you
will know what I mean.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
and
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other
abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss.


Looks like Texas is getting restoration as you define it. very sad.

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"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message
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The message
from "symplastless" contains these words:

Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and
leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

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Rusty


That's the best you get from the yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Mr. Yard Boy to you Don Staples, you know how we do things around here.
Remember, there is nothing a matter with being a yard boy especially when
you have a back ground in tree biology. Now claiming to be a consulting
forester and defining a forest as a single stand or group of trees under
one or more ownerships is silly to say the least. Not having a clue as to
mulch chemistry in a forest and claiming to be a consulting forester is
fraud. That means if I put two small trees in a trash can, I have created
a forest. That's your words and not mine.

We need pre-forester like pre-med with tree biology being a must! BTW my
definition of a forest is in my dictionary. You don't have to agree but
you will know what I mean.

Blow it out your ass, yard boy. You never touched biology, at any level,
you were a saw hand for Shigo for 58 days, the limit of your
"professionalism" is pimping Shigo.

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"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message
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The message
from "symplastless" contains these words:

Compost manure before using for trees with composted wood chips and
leaves
and needles.

A?

A bit of punctuation might help the above to make sense.

--
Rusty


That's the best you get from the yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Mr. Yard Boy to you Don Staples, you know how we do things around here.
Remember, there is nothing a matter with being a yard boy especially when
you have a back ground in tree biology. Now claiming to be a consulting
forester and defining a forest as a single stand or group of trees
under one
or more ownerships is silly to say the least. Not having a clue as to
mulch
chemistry in a forest and claiming to be a consulting forester is fraud.
That means if I put two small trees in a trash can, I have created a
forest.
That's your words and not mine.

We need pre-forester like pre-med with tree biology being a must! BTW my
definition of a forest is in my dictionary. You don't have to agree
but you
will know what I mean.

And you can't even read headers.

This is probably because of the pig's ear you make of cutting and quoting.

Now go and do some unravelling and see exactly who said what...

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Rusty
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On Sep 11, 3:45*am, "gunner" wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in ...

Mine too. *Bloody good stuff is horse poo, but the Brits have had problems
with weed killers spread on pastures contaminating the poos - it's then
gone on to kill plants in gardens. *I don't have this problem in my
country and it appears that the worst thing to do with the weedkiller
infested British horse poo is to pile it and try to 'age' it - the poison
apparently doesn't break down going that route but does if spread.

What poison is it?

On our plots, Manchester UK, it was an herbicide call Aminopyralid
introduced by Dow Chemicals a few years ago to treat broad leaved
weeds in commercial crops. The herbicide binds strongly to plant
material which when grazed by or fed to cattle and horses in
feedstuffs such as silage or hay can pass through the animals without
breaking down. We've been advised to rotavate or dig over the soil
several times between summer and autumn when the soil is warm. The
contamination is widespread here - seen in Scotland, Wakefield and
Cornwall.

Luckily I was on holidays when we got a load - I was upset I had
missed it. Not any more!! The RHS wrote to us advising us to 'scrape
off' any loose manure! What a shame ...