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I have a tiny garden, actually one bush tomato in a 10 gallon pot.
Well I'm fed up with the commercial tomatoes, year after year I get
nothing! This year instead of an indeterminate I went with a bush.
Getting rampant bottom rot, tomato turns black on bottom and works all
the way up, I added calcium as in crushed up tums, I fertilize with
special tomato fertilizer and have watered frequently. Its not too late
to get another already started tomato, any suggestions!

I remember as a kid tomatoes were easy and always good. What the heck can
I do! I want tomato this year!!!!!!

Next year I'm going back to Amish Heritage!!!!!!!


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I have a tiny garden, actually one bush tomato in a 10 gallon pot.
Well I'm fed up with the commercial tomatoes, year after year I get
nothing! This year instead of an indeterminate I went with a bush.
Getting rampant bottom rot, tomato turns black on bottom and works all
the way up, I added calcium as in crushed up tums, I fertilize with
special tomato fertilizer and have watered frequently. Its not too late
to get another already started tomato, any suggestions!

I remember as a kid tomatoes were easy and always good. What the heck can
I do! I want tomato this year!!!!!!

Next year I'm going back to Amish Heritage!!!!!!!


This may clear up on its own, but that doesn't seem likely since you
have a determinant tomato. Sounds like you're screwed. Being a
determinant tomato, and that it's producing fruit, it is setting all the
fruit that you are going to get now.

Do you have enough time to start another tomato? Is there a nursery near
you where you could get a Stupice or an Early Girl?

Where are you?

Let's try and figure out where you jumped the tracks here.

What tomato are you growing?
What is the potting soil?
What kind of fertilizer did you use?
Have you worked the soil in the pot since the tomato has been in it?
How warm is it there?
Does the pot itself get full sun (warmth of soil)?
You're using 4" pine bark mulch in the pot?
Blossom end rot can be caused by drought conditions, but it sounds as if
you may be over-watering, which would lead to cracked skins like you had
before.

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:44:01 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article , piedmont
wrote:

I have a tiny garden, actually one bush tomato in a 10 gallon pot. Well
I'm fed up with the commercial tomatoes, year after year I get nothing!
This year instead of an indeterminate I went with a bush. Getting
rampant bottom rot, tomato turns black on bottom and works all the way
up, I added calcium as in crushed up tums, I fertilize with special
tomato fertilizer and have watered frequently. Its not too late to get
another already started tomato, any suggestions!

I remember as a kid tomatoes were easy and always good. What the heck
can I do! I want tomato this year!!!!!!

Next year I'm going back to Amish Heritage!!!!!!!


This may clear up on its own, but that doesn't seem likely since you
have a determinant tomato. Sounds like you're screwed. Being a
determinant tomato, and that it's producing fruit, it is setting all the
fruit that you are going to get now.

Do you have enough time to start another tomato? Is there a nursery near
you where you could get a Stupice or an Early Girl?

Where are you?

Let's try and figure out where you jumped the tracks here.

What tomato are you growing? (Better Bush)


What is the potting soil? (Standard Potting Soil from Walmart)


What kind of fertilizer did you use? (9-12-12 Pennington)


Have you worked the soil in the pot since the tomato has been in it(Yes)


How
warm is it there? (Gets sun all day until 4 PM)
Does the pot itself get full sun (warmth of soil)? You're using 4" pine


bark mulch in the pot? (mini pine bark nuggets)


Blossom end rot can be caused by drought
conditions, but it sounds as if you may be over-watering, which would
lead to cracked skins like you had before.


I wait until the soil feels dry then add 1 gallon.

from the get go, everyone has turned black.

Here is a picture of the pot/plant.



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In article , piedmont
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:44:01 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article , piedmont
wrote:

I have a tiny garden, actually one bush tomato in a 10 gallon pot. Well
I'm fed up with the commercial tomatoes, year after year I get nothing!
This year instead of an indeterminate I went with a bush. Getting
rampant bottom rot, tomato turns black on bottom and works all the way
up, I added calcium as in crushed up tums, I fertilize with special
tomato fertilizer and have watered frequently. Its not too late to get
another already started tomato, any suggestions!

I remember as a kid tomatoes were easy and always good. What the heck
can I do! I want tomato this year!!!!!!

Next year I'm going back to Amish Heritage!!!!!!!


This may clear up on its own, but that doesn't seem likely since you
have a determinant tomato. Sounds like you're screwed. Being a
determinant tomato, and that it's producing fruit, it is setting all the
fruit that you are going to get now.

Do you have enough time to start another tomato? Is there a nursery near
you where you could get a Stupice or an Early Girl?

Where are you?

Let's try and figure out where you jumped the tracks here.

What tomato are you growing? (Better Bush)


What is the potting soil? (Standard Potting Soil from Walmart)


What kind of fertilizer did you use? (9-12-12 Pennington)


Have you worked the soil in the pot since the tomato has been in it(Yes)


How
warm is it there? (Gets sun all day until 4 PM)
Does the pot itself get full sun (warmth of soil)? You're using 4" pine


bark mulch in the pot? (mini pine bark nuggets)


Blossom end rot can be caused by drought
conditions, but it sounds as if you may be over-watering, which would
lead to cracked skins like you had before.


I wait until the soil feels dry then add 1 gallon.

from the get go, everyone has turned black.

Here is a picture of the pot/plant.

My news server can handle pictures in this group, BUT none is included,
and to get feed back from others you shoudl probably post the picture
somewhere else, like alt.binaries.pictures.gardens.


Mistakes are costly, but they are more costly, if you can't learn from
them.

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merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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In article , piedmont
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http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3


The pot looks like about 5 wide by 10 inches. A small pot. Small pots
are harder to establish homeostasis which means they dry out or drown
easier. Might be good for a protected house plant but Iีd place a 3X4
(4X8) raised bed on that nearest lawn sort of like a large window box.
Guess you might manage some cherry tomatoes if you like challenges.

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Bill who putters wrote:
In article , piedmont
wrote:

http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3


The pot looks like about 5 wide by 10 inches. A small pot. Small pots
are harder to establish homeostasis which means they dry out or drown
easier.



I've got a friend that is trying to grow some tomatoes (some are better
bush) in 10" ~ 1 gallon on a sunny patio. I though this was way small
from what I know about the root of a tomato. Is this doable if they are
kept watered?

I'm not holding out much hope here, but her last garden spot was
under a tree!

Jeff


Might be good for a protected house plant but Iีd place a 3X4
(4X8) raised bed on that nearest lawn sort of like a large window box.
Guess you might manage some cherry tomatoes if you like challenges.

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In article , says...
http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3






It doesn't show enough and the picture is not in focus.

Take a closeup of the leaves, fruit and stem.

In addition to Billy's questions:

Is the pot you are using the one you've had previous tomatoes fail in?



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Jeff Thies wrote:

Bill who putters wrote:
In article , piedmont
wrote:

http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3


The pot looks like about 5 wide by 10 inches. A small pot. Small pots
are harder to establish homeostasis which means they dry out or drown
easier.



I've got a friend that is trying to grow some tomatoes (some are better
bush) in 10" ~ 1 gallon on a sunny patio. I though this was way small
from what I know about the root of a tomato. Is this doable if they are
kept watered?

I'm not holding out much hope here, but her last garden spot was
under a tree!

Jeff


Might be good for a protected house plant but Iีd place a 3X4
(4X8) raised bed on that nearest lawn sort of like a large window box.
Guess you might manage some cherry tomatoes if you like challenges.


Think of it as a bonsai tomato, then when it gets root bound, bound feet
will be the metaphor. Will be hard for it to stand too. Should get it
some support.
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http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3


Plant looks healthy. Don't see any browning of leaves, which have good
color, but I can't make-out the tomatoes.

One more time, please. Maybe you have somethng that you could rest your
camera on.
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:43:58 -0500, phorbin wrote:

In article , says...
http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3






It doesn't show enough and the picture is not in focus.

Take a closeup of the leaves, fruit and stem.

In addition to Billy's questions:

Is the pot you are using the one you've had previous tomatoes fail in?


OK I'll try to get close ups and yes the same pot but I took half the
soil out and added some new.



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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:38:17 -0400, Bill who putters wrote:

In article , piedmont
wrote:

http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3


The pot looks like about 5 wide by 10 inches. A small pot. Small pots
are harder to establish homeostasis which means they dry out or drown
easier. Might be good for a protected house plant but Iีd place a 3X4
(4X8) raised bed on that nearest lawn sort of like a large window box.
Guess you might manage some cherry tomatoes if you like challenges.




It;s over 5 gallon size, if you can see that it is more round than the
tomato cage.

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:43:58 -0500, phorbin wrote:

In article , says...
http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3






It doesn't show enough and the picture is not in focus.

Take a closeup of the leaves, fruit and stem.

In addition to Billy's questions:

Is the pot you are using the one you've had previous tomatoes fail in?


Close Up Pics here, http://tinypic.com/a/2391u/3



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On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:46:39 +0000, piedmont wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:43:58 -0500, phorbin wrote:

In article , says...
http://tinypic.com/m/af9g7m/3






It doesn't show enough and the picture is not in focus.

Take a closeup of the leaves, fruit and stem.

In addition to Billy's questions:

Is the pot you are using the one you've had previous tomatoes fail in?


Close Up Pics here, http://tinypic.com/a/2391u/3


The shoe in the pic is a size 12 and the pot is wider.



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In article , piedmont
wrote:

I have a tiny garden, actually one bush tomato in a 10 gallon pot.
Well I'm fed up with the commercial tomatoes, year after year I get
nothing! This year instead of an indeterminate I went with a bush.
Getting rampant bottom rot, tomato turns black on bottom and works all
the way up, I added calcium as in crushed up tums, I fertilize with
special tomato fertilizer and have watered frequently. Its not too late
to get another already started tomato, any suggestions!

I remember as a kid tomatoes were easy and always good. What the heck can
I do! I want tomato this year!!!!!!

Next year I'm going back to Amish Heritage!!!!!!!


"At least once a week, it is advisable to leach all the unused
fertilizer out of the soil mix by watering with tap water. Add
sufficient water to the container to cause free drainage from the
bottom. This practice will prevent any buildup of injurious materials in
the soil mix.
Occasionally, it is a good idea to water with a nutrient solution
containing minor elements. Use a water-soluble fertilizer containing
iron, zinc, boron and manganese, and follow label directions."

Found in

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/e...container.htmL

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