I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I give up and try again with a new plant?

VinceG wrote:
I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered
twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I give
up and try again with a new plant?

They are indoors? You will need to cross-pollinate them by hand.

Una

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VinceG wrote:

I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered
twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I give
up and try again with a new plant?

What is the soil and air temperature, and how much light do they get?
How much water do they get? You may want to scratch in some bone meal
around the plants, and hold off on any nitrogen fertilizer.

Insects could cross pollinate peppers but since it is winter in the UK,
that shouldn't be a problem. In general, these should be self
pollinating plants. You may try gently flicking the flowers next time,
or gently swab them with a Q-tip, going from flower to flower (if they
are all the same type of pepper).
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

VinceG wrote:
I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered
twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I
give up and try again with a new plant?

They are not getting pollinated properly, there is no reason to think that
new plants would be different. What has the temperature been like over the
last few weeks? Are there any insect pollinators with access to the plants?

David

Thanks for all your replies people.

The plants are indoors here in the Uk in this miserable winter. There is nothing to polonate them at the moment, so we'll leave them indoors until the summer and will put them outside in the good weather.

You can pollinate the flowers by hand. It is a very simple, quick task.

Una

VinceG wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;908480']VinceG wrote:-
I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered
twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I
give up and try again with a new plant?-

They are not getting pollinated properly, there is no reason to think
that
new plants would be different. What has the temperature been like
over the
last few weeks? Are there any insect pollinators with access to the
plants?

David

Thanks for all your replies people.

The plants are indoors here in the Uk in this miserable winter. There
is nothing to polonate them at the moment, so we'll leave them indoors
until the summer and will put them outside in the good weather.

I am amazed that they still live much less flower. Is "good" weather when
it reaches above 10C or 20C? Chillis are not going to thrive below 20C and
will need full sun.

D

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

VinceG wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;908480']VinceG wrote:-
I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered
twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I
give up and try again with a new plant?-

They are not getting pollinated properly, there is no reason to think
that
new plants would be different. What has the temperature been like
over the
last few weeks? Are there any insect pollinators with access to the
plants?

David

Thanks for all your replies people.

The plants are indoors here in the Uk in this miserable winter. There
is nothing to polonate them at the moment, so we'll leave them indoors
until the summer and will put them outside in the good weather.

I am amazed that they still live much less flower. Is "good" weather when
it reaches above 10C or 20C? Chillis are not going to thrive below 20C and
will need full sun.

D

My book says 21C - 29C for growing peppers.

"Vegetable Gardener' Bible" by Edward C. Smith.
http://www.amazon.com/Vegetable-Gard...Gardening/dp/1
580172121/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206815454&sr=1-1

Available at a good library near you.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

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,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

VinceG wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;908480']VinceG wrote:-
I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered
twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I
give up and try again with a new plant?-

They are not getting pollinated properly, there is no reason to think
that
new plants would be different. What has the temperature been like
over the
last few weeks? Are there any insect pollinators with access to the
plants?

David

Thanks for all your replies people.

The plants are indoors here in the Uk in this miserable winter. There
is nothing to polonate them at the moment, so we'll leave them indoors
until the summer and will put them outside in the good weather.

I am amazed that they still live much less flower. Is "good" weather when
it reaches above 10C or 20C? Chillis are not going to thrive below 20C and
will need full sun.

D

My book says 21C - 29C for growing peppers.

"Vegetable Gardener' Bible" by Edward C. Smith.
http://www.amazon.com/Vegetable-Gard...Gardening/dp/1
580172121/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206815454&sr=1-1

Available at a good library near you.

You might look at the advice for growing tomatoes indoors:

http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-or...gardening.com/
how-to-grow-tomatoes.html
How to Grow Tomatoes in your Indoor Garden

They, tomatoes and peppers, belong to the same botanical Family
(Solanaceae), and both are heavy feeders.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

On Dec 26, 9:36*am, VinceG wrote:
I have three chilli plants in a large pot. The plants have flowered
twice but not produced any chillies. Can I do anything or should I give
up and try again with a new plant?

Don't know your variety or much on the specific growing conditions but
if kept healthy they should flower again when growing conditions
improve. Just back off the N a bit, perhaps pinch them back, to
keep them from getting too leggy. change up to a higher P when
flowering is close and adequate light gets to over 12-14 hrs a day.
Blossom drop can be caused by lack of pollination, but also by too
high or too low a temp as well as low light and /or short day length
light conditions. In your case most likely it is these last winter
conditions.

You could try a cooler climate pepper like one of the rocoto or
Manzano chiles ( black seed). Google for it. nice meaty chile with a
good heat, Originates from cool climate of Peru. You might also try
a Plant Growth Regulator (PGR) for fruit set. If you want other
plants, take cutting for rooting as you pinch these back, now would
be a good time.

I never thought I would ever say billy is right, but he finally got
one right when he recommends hydroponics to you. With hydroponoics
you can easily ( & quickly) adjust the mineral salts formulary to suit
condition and plant as well as stabilize your temps by such methods as
root zone heating with an inexpensive aquarium heater.

If you are interested, Google growing Hydroponic peppers (or
tomatoes). Dr Lynette Morgan from NZ is a very good source of info and
has been known to answer emails.
http://www.growingedge.com/staff/profiles/morgan.html

she has additional links to research including one specifcally on
peppers:
http://www.growingedge.com/store/boo...media.php %3F

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Gunner wrote:

If you are interested, Google growing Hydroponic peppers (or
tomatoes). Dr Lynette Morgan from NZ is a very good source of info and
has been known to answer emails.
http://www.growingedge.com/staff/profiles/morgan.html

she has additional links to research including one specifcally on
peppers:
http://www.growingedge.com/store/boo...PID=6&ref=http
://www.growingedge.com%2Fstore%2Fbooks_multimedia.php %3F

If the book Collapse is 10 % on target this issue is trivial. Salt
will kill Australia. Fresh water and habitat destruction of all minor
and potential farming areas. Not good as 20 million living in cities
are dependent on run off . Wonder if top down can fix British vision.


Please tell me I'm wrong.

1 square yard of soil contains 200 Lb's of salt.

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden

"Always tell the truth and you don't have to remember anything."
--Mark Twain.

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Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Gunner wrote:

If you are interested, Google growing Hydroponic peppers (or
tomatoes). Dr Lynette Morgan from NZ is a very good source of info and
has been known to answer emails.
http://www.growingedge.com/staff/profiles/morgan.html

she has additional links to research including one specifcally on
peppers:
http://www.growingedge.com/store/boo...p?PID=6&ref=ht
tp
://www.growingedge.com%2Fstore%2Fbooks_multimedia.php %3F

If the book Collapse is 10 % on target this issue is trivial. Salt
will kill Australia. Fresh water and habitat destruction of all minor
and potential farming areas. Not good as 20 million living in cities
are dependent on run off . Wonder if top down can fix British vision.


Please tell me I'm wrong.

1 square yard of soil contains 200 Lb's of salt.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salinity_in_Australia
.. . . the Saltgrow, a hybrid gum tree, is being utilized within
Australia to try to reverse damage within affected high-salinity
areas.[4] The tree has been highly successful, and has been attributed
to be able to completely remove salinity within damaged areas and
allowed new grasses and shrubs that are not salt resistant, to grow.
----

Re-foresting would help.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

Please could you tell me how to do that? Thank you.

Bill who putters wrote:
In article
,
Gunner wrote:

If you are interested, Google growing Hydroponic peppers (or
tomatoes). Dr Lynette Morgan from NZ is a very good source of info
and has been known to answer emails.
http://www.growingedge.com/staff/profiles/morgan.html

she has additional links to research including one specifcally on
peppers:
http://www.growingedge.com/store/boo...PID=6&ref=http
://www.growingedge.com%2Fstore%2Fbooks_multimedia.php %3F

If the book Collapse is 10 % on target this issue is trivial. Salt
will kill Australia. Fresh water and habitat destruction of all minor
and potential farming areas.

It isn't quite that bad. People now recognise that it is a problem and they
are starting to do something about it. We actually have a draft plan to
rehabilitate the Murray-Darling but it is always possible that short-term
populist politics will cause the nation's leaders to go to water (yuk yuk
yuk) and vote for a "do nothing" solution. But we have hopes. At least it
is being addressed at national level although the Chairman of the Authority
resigned in protest. I class him as a mensch so that isn't a good sign.

Not good as 20 million living in
cities are dependent on run off . Wonder if top down can fix
British vision.



We are working on both top down and bottom up solutions. Many (almost all
the small guys) farmers really do want to protect their land and to leave an
asset to their children, they just need some support and to learn how to do
it differently.

One of the strange things happening is the farmers are discovering that the
greens might be allies. This involves a great deal of re-thinking and
discarding of old prejudice but it could happen. I would love to be a fly
on the wall at some policy framing meetings (why do you want people to be
free to smoke weeds?) (you do WHAT with cows!).

Please tell me I'm wrong.

1 square yard of soil contains 200 Lb's of salt.

You are not wrong but not representing the situation accurately because
that's an extreme value It isn't all like that. I could irrigate my
pasture daily for a century and not have salinization. Having said that
there are large areas that are fairly well stuffed that will take a great
deal to rehabilitate.

I would be also concerned about (a) climate change bringing great change,
particularly cancelling the winter rains in the WA wheat belt (b) mining and
subdivision for McMansions chewing up the good coastal land where there is
plenty of water and no salt problem (c) overpopulation.

The last is the proverbial pachyderm in the portmanteau. People cannot
understand how a country with such a low population density (overall) can be
overpopulated.

David

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
Bill who putters wrote:

If the book Collapse is 10 % on target this issue is trivial. Salt
will kill Australia. Fresh water and habitat destruction of all minor
and potential farming areas.

It isn't quite that bad. People now recognise that it is a problem and
they are starting to do something about it. We actually have a draft plan
to rehabilitate the Murray-Darling but it is always possible that
short-term populist politics will cause the nation's leaders to go to
water (yuk yuk yuk) and vote for a "do nothing" solution. But we have
hopes. At least it is being addressed at national level although the
Chairman of the Authority resigned in protest. I class him as a mensch so
that isn't a good sign.

I heard a large chunk of a radio interview of an American scientist who was
in Australia to study how we dealt with water. Unfortunately I didn't hear
his name mentioned in the section of interview I heard. I was quite
surprised at how enthusiastic he was about our water plan for the
Murray-Darling and our water management in other places round the country.
He was so enthusiastic that he was coming back for a much longer study tour,
wished that the US was taking such effective action etc, etc,

I suspect that like me, you too would think that Australia still isn't doing
enough about water management, so I was very surprised to note such
enthusiasm from an outside observer. It made me wonder about the situation
in the US. The way he was carrying on about how good Aus was, the US must
need attention. Given how many anti-science comments we see from USians
into climate change denial, perhaps I shouldn't be wondering about the US or
surprised that any country doing anything would jolly up a water scientist.

One thing he said which interested me is that he thought Arizona was going
to be in for a very rough ride for water (I cant' recall though if he
specifically mentioned Phoenix).

Not good as 20 million living in
cities are dependent on run off . Wonder if top down can fix
British vision.



We are working on both top down and bottom up solutions. Many (almost all
the small guys) farmers really do want to protect their land and to leave
an asset to their children, they just need some support and to learn how
to do it differently.

There's sod all support. Most of them who can afford to do anything about it
are doing it on their lonesome.

One of the strange things happening is the farmers are discovering that
the greens might be allies.

Actually that's not new. The head of the NFF quite a few years ago (and who
died suddenly at a young age) had made it very clear that environmentalists
and farmers were natural allies. He was working closley with (I think) the
ACF and (IIRC) it was on the Snowy River. of course once the NFF chap
dropped dead it was back to business as usual and they got a new head who
was a denier and a Luddite.


This involves a great deal of re-thinking and
discarding of old prejudice but it could happen. I would love to be a fly
on the wall at some policy framing meetings (why do you want people to
be free to smoke weeds?) (you do WHAT with cows!).

Please tell me I'm wrong.

1 square yard of soil contains 200 Lb's of salt.

You are not wrong but not representing the situation accurately because
that's an extreme value It isn't all like that. I could irrigate my
pasture daily for a century and not have salinization. Having said that
there are large areas that are fairly well stuffed that will take a great
deal to rehabilitate.

Yup. But it is quite amazing what can be done to rehabilitate land again in
some areas. Trees really do work and farmers are planting trees in millions
across the country.

I would be also concerned about (a) climate change bringing great change,
particularly cancelling the winter rains in the WA wheat belt (b) mining
and subdivision for McMansions chewing up the good coastal land where
there is plenty of water and no salt problem (c) overpopulation.

The last is the proverbial pachyderm in the portmanteau. People cannot
understand how a country with such a low population density (overall) can
be overpopulated.

Yep.