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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Nad - I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook" series and thought you might be interested since you too seem to be interested in bread baking. I'm going to buy a copy when I can figure out how to buy the one that was for the UK audience not the US, but the one I am reading is specifically for the US market. Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading aoubt if you care about what you eat. Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a pile of loaves on the cover: http://www.randomhouse.com/book/2008...andbook-by-dan iel-stevens Ordered from the library. What's the difference between the British and the American books? Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language, except Italian, the language used where she lives. There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti, in German, "avec sous titres". -- - Billy America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once. |
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Billy wrote:
In article , "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Nad - I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook" series and thought you might be interested since you too seem to be interested in bread baking. I'm going to buy a copy when I can figure out how to buy the one that was for the UK audience not the US, but the one I am reading is specifically for the US market. Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading aoubt if you care about what you eat. Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a pile of loaves on the cover: http://www.randomhouse.com/book/2008...andbook-by-dan iel-stevens Ordered from the library. What's the difference between the British and the American books? Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language, except Italian, the language used where she lives. There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti, in German, "avec sous titres". Seems that they are a series of "River Cottage" books on the country life, similar to the "Storey's Country Living" series that are popular here in the US. The book does look interesting, like Peter Rienhart's books on bread making does not completely dismiss the use of Mixer Machines but teaches not use that much. What I not going build is a brick oven. But they are clay cloche for oven use that I have not tried to use. I do have to count my pennies these days and I have bread books already. I did put the book in my wish list. The series of books looks very interesting. I do have my sourdough starters going now that the temperatures are warm enough to grow them. I do not keep the temperature high enough during the winter for the starters. Fresh bread oder that fill the house is a pleasant thing that allot people are missing out on. Badly needed rain is coming. It has not rained much here last three weeks, my rain barrels are empty. Watering with the well for most of garden. First too much rain and now too little. The well water is not the best for my plants. Like other usenets, postings are way down across the boards. People moving to FaceBook forums from I have read... Something I will probably not do -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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"Nad R" wrote in message
... Billy wrote: In article , "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Nad - I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook" series and thought you might be interested since you too seem to be interested in bread baking. I'm going to buy a copy when I can figure out how to buy the one that was for the UK audience not the US, but the one I am reading is specifically for the US market. Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading aoubt if you care about what you eat. Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a pile of loaves on the cover: http://www.randomhouse.com/book/2008...andbook-by-dan iel-stevens Ordered from the library. What's the difference between the British and the American books? Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language, except Italian, the language used where she lives. There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti, in German, "avec sous titres". Seems that they are a series of "River Cottage" books on the country life, similar to the "Storey's Country Living" series that are popular here in the US. The book does look interesting, like Peter Rienhart's books on bread making does not completely dismiss the use of Mixer Machines but teaches not use that much. What I not going build is a brick oven. But they are clay cloche for oven use that I have not tried to use. I do have to count my pennies these days and I have bread books already. I did put the book in my wish list. The series of books looks very interesting. What about borrowing them from a library? I have done that to see if I want to own them and I've decided that I will (and I need yet more cookbooks/how to books like I need another few holes in my head). Peter Reinhart has a comment on the back of the bread book and he says: "This book is not only beautiful and inspiring but it also adds new bread-making ideas and formulas to the lexicon. It definitely goes on my 'must-have' bread shelf." I do have my sourdough starters going now that the temperatures are warm enough to grow them. I do not keep the temperature high enough during the winter for the starters. My house is as cold as a step-mother's breath in winter (right now) but I'm still trying to get a sourdough started as a result of being inspired by this book. I have the batter sitting on a cake cooling rack on the top of our wood burnign kichen range which tends to stay warm all night even if it sometimes goes out if we go to bed too ealry or dont' get up early enough. Fresh bread oder that fill the house is a pleasant thing that allot people are missing out on. It sure is. I made 2 loaves today, by hand. I gave my bread machine away years ago becaseu i was not impressed with the product from it and have made bread by hand ever since. We've made to occasional foray into bought bread but our our latest baker has got new staff and his bread has gone from sublime to boring - back to my loaves again. Badly needed rain is coming. It has not rained much here last three weeks, my rain barrels are empty. Gee,a whole 3 weeks. I wish I got rain so frequently ;-)) Watering with the well for most of garden. First too much rain and now too little. The well water is not the best for my plants. Like other usenets, postings are way down across the boards. People moving to FaceBook forums from I have read... Something I will probably not do No, I won't me either. I mightt use online forums, but I doubt that I'll even bother with those once usenet finally dies. BTW, the preserving book by pam Corbin, looks especially good - I am going to make that the very first one of the lot that I buy. |
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"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Nad - I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook" series and thought you might be interested since you too seem to be interested in bread baking. I'm going to buy a copy when I can figure out how to buy the one that was for the UK audience not the US, but the one I am reading is specifically for the US market. Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading aoubt if you care about what you eat. Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a pile of loaves on the cover: http://www.randomhouse.com/book/2008...andbook-by-dan iel-stevens Ordered from the library. What's the difference between the British and the American books? In the US version I'm reading, it's full of lbs and ozs. I've spent decades converting to metric so don't want to go there again when I buy my own copy. There are a raft of books put out under the River Cottage banner and one of the others I also have on library loan, called 'The River Cottage Cookbook' has several pages of other specific USian stuff of various interest or otherwise. Stuff like how low the poundage of lamb eaten in the US in a year (1LB/person/year which astonished me) and lots about what organic means (or doesn't) in certain US juridictions, how certain stock are reared etc - the author is a commited carnivore but also a power veg grower. I've borrowed a whole lot of these River Cottage books to see if I'd like to own them and I want the whole lot. Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language, except Italian, the language used where she lives. Yep, I knew that. There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti, in German, "avec sous titres". That would be about as useful as boobs on a budgerigar TMWOT. Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Billy" wrote in message "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook" snip Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading aoubt if you care about what you eat. I've been low-carbing. Trying to keep my blood sugar down but last night I cracked, and we had our first pasta primavera (été) of the season. God it was good. Whole wheat pasta, tomatoes, sweet peppers, scallions, basil, garlic, & lemon zest with olive oil as the sauce, accompanied with a side order of sautéed zucchini. The basil, peppers, and zucchini where from the garden. Good stuff, and will only get gooder as the garden progresses. Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a pile of loaves on the cover: http://www.randomhouse.com/book/2008...d-handbook-by- dan iel-stevens Ordered from the library. What's the difference between the British and the American books? In the US version I'm reading, it's full of lbs and ozs. I've spent decades converting to metric so don't want to go there again when I buy my own copy. Does that mean, units aside, that you cook more with weight (mass) as opposed to volume (tablespoons, cups)? There are a raft of books put out under the River Cottage banner and one of the others I also have on library loan, called 'The River Cottage Cookbook' has several pages of other specific USian stuff of various interest or otherwise. Stuff like how low the poundage of lamb eaten in the US in a year (1LB/person/year which astonished me) Likewise, I've never gotten used to the flavor of lamb. The best I've had came with a strong soy sauce glaze. It covered the flavor. But I'm no gourmet, I don't like the taste of salmon either. and lots about what organic means (or doesn't) in certain US juridictions, how certain stock are reared etc - the author is a commited carnivore but also a power veg grower. I've borrowed a whole lot of these River Cottage books to see if I'd like to own them and I want the whole lot. Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language, except Italian, the language used where she lives. Yep, I knew that. There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti, in German, "avec sous titres". That would be about as useful as boobs on a budgerigar TMWOT. Careful, "boobs" hold an exalted and sacred position in my pantheon of desires. You, the proud owner of a pair, my not share my fascination Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read. The New York Times book list seems to like him too. Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix). I enjoy the cinema, but it is my "Lovey-poo" who enjoys reading the "who-done-it"s. I read little fiction, and often that is junk sci-fi. (It keeps my eyes moving, but I don't have to think about it much.) When I'm not reading who-why-what-when-and-where documentary kinds of things, I find solace from a series on haiku by R.H. Blyth http://www.ralphmag.org/haikuP.html Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. -- - Billy America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once. |
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Billy wrote:
In article , "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: What's the difference between the British and the American books? In the US version I'm reading, it's full of lbs and ozs. I've spent decades converting to metric so don't want to go there again when I buy my own copy. Does that mean, units aside, that you cook more with weight (mass) as opposed to volume (tablespoons, cups)? The newer books from Peter Reinhart shows both Imperial and Metric measures for bread making Ingredients. So conversions should not be a problem. I have a small digital kitchen scale that does the conversions for me if needed. The larger measuring bowls also have both systems etched into the glass. And I have two sets of measuring cups in Imperial and Metric for volume measures. So going back and forth these days should not be much of a concern. http://www.amazon.com/OXO-Grips-Stai...1013789&sr=1-4 http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Reinhart...d_bxgy_b_img_c I spent one hour outside today weeding and I could feel my skin cooking... 96 Fahrenheit. Staying indoors and Hoping for a popup storm to cool things off. Why did I not plant okra this year -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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Billy wrote:
Farm1 wrote: .... Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read. The New York Times book list seems to like him too. Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix). the movie is not much at all like the books. if you won't read them you are missing the boat (so to speak). .... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). songbird |
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songbird wrote: Billy wrote: Farm1 wrote: ... Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read. The New York Times book list seems to like him too. Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix). the movie is not much at all like the books. if you won't read them you are missing the boat (so to speak). They are for my Lovey-poo, if she is happy, it will make me happier than all the boats in the world. ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). Noted for the next time I wander away from my pile of unread books. Thanks songbird -- - Billy America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once. |
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songbird wrote:
Billy wrote: ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). songbird I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science fiction books. However, after looking at my collect, I have not read one book by Alaster Reynolds. The author will soon be on my purchase list. My current read is "www: wonder by Robert J. Sawyer" it is a blah read second book of three. Before that a couple of Jack McDevitt books was ok not bad. The last excellent read was "The Windup Girl by Paoplo Bacigalupi". Next up would have to be "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge", I have not been disappointed by any of Vinges books. But soon to have Alaster Reynolds part of my collection. A little shower outside right now... It is not much, perhaps a bucket in each of my rain barrels. But better than nothing. First rain here in two weeks, past storms kept on missing me. -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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Nad R wrote: Paoplo Bacigalupi seems to have a number of well recieved books. -- - Billy America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once. |
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Billy wrote:
In article , Nad R wrote: Paoplo Bacigalupi seems to have a number of well recieved books. I never got impression that you liked Science Fiction? But that novel does have some future ideas of how Genetically Engineered foods may effect the far far future. -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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Nad R wrote:
songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science fiction books. i couldn't guess how many i've read. probably in the thousands. i used to read several science fiction books a week along with the other reading i would do. when i went to the library i would come home with one or two old fashioned paper bags full of books... i'm pretty sure that Piers Anthony, Orson Scott Card and Asimov have several hundred books between them, add Clarke, Webber, Dickson, Heinlein, Saberhagen, Herbert (and now son), Jordan, Kurtz, Lackey, Pohl, Forward, Sterling, .... my collection was mostly sold off when i moved from up north. i was very close to moving across country and didn't want to haul all of those boxes with me. However, after looking at my collect, I have not read one book by Alaster Reynolds. The author will soon be on my purchase list. My current read is "www: wonder by Robert J. Sawyer" it is a blah read second book of three. i've not really liked much of his writing -- sadly as the topics are interesting. i've enjoyed McDevitts work much more so. Before that a couple of Jack McDevitt books was ok not bad. The last excellent read was "The Windup Girl by Paoplo Bacigalupi". Next up would have to be "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge", I have not been disappointed by any of Vinges books. yes, True Names, the Fire Upon the Deep, and a Deepness in the Sky are worth the reads. being a techie and interested in AI i've always liked any books that are about how computers/robots try to take over the world or are misunderstood. and first contact stories too. i had a nice collection of these kinds along with the cyberpunk authors, but then sold them all off. But soon to have Alaster Reynolds part of my collection. i would skip his most recent short work. as that was perhaps the weakest of the lot. A little shower outside right now... It is not much, perhaps a bucket in each of my rain barrels. But better than nothing. First rain here in two weeks, past storms kept on missing me. just a short bit of rain here too. storms usually weaken or split when they get to us as this is the valley. today was no exception. north of us had a good bit of rain. songbird |
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songbird wrote:
being a techie and interested in AI i've always liked any books that are about how computers/robots try to take over the world or are misunderstood. and first contact stories too. i had a nice collection of these kinds along with the cyberpunk authors, but then sold them all off. Then you will love "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge". -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). songbird I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science fiction books. I read SIASL when I was about 20 and thought it was a hoot. I re-read it a few years ago and found it very dated. The "shocking" parts no longer have any shock and while I understand the parody of American religion much better now it isn't as funny. Heinlein never wrote great prose like (for example) Card. Apparently the original version was somewhat censored by the publisher and Heinlein's estate published the full version a few years ago, possibly in an effort to put some punch into it. David |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Nad R wrote: songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). songbird I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science fiction books. I read SIASL when I was about 20 and thought it was a hoot. I re-read it a few years ago and found it very dated. The "shocking" parts no longer have any shock and while I understand the parody of American religion much better now it isn't as funny. Heinlein never wrote great prose like (for example) Card. Apparently the original version was somewhat censored by the publisher and Heinlein's estate published the full version a few years ago, possibly in an effort to put some punch into it. David I read and have the original version. I suppose gay marriages in the past was a shocker and people that saw someone with tattoos all over their body may no longer have that shocker value. But the beauty of it, he was way ahead of time. The same with "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" the insight of computers and Artificial Intelligence theories he talks about when people were still using slide rules in those days. An amazing writer. I do remember you stated that you were a founding member of a Heinlein fan club? -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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