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ok Gunner, here's where we are at
Gunner wrote:
.... Oh yea, a little addendum just for giggles and grins: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg.../tomatoes.html Approximate yields: 15 to 45 pounds per 10-foot row. http://www.ehow.com/facts_7242813_ma...ne-plant_.html Average Yield The average tomato plant produces just five pounds of tomatoes, according to the University of Missouri Extension. However, you may attain yields as high as 20 pounds per plant if you provide proper care for your plants. so: low end : 5 x 26 = 130 high end: 20 x 26 =520 You are saying you got 500+ #s, from 26 plants w/ more to come and no waste! no, there has been some loss here or there. not too much yet. if a tomato has a bit of rot on it or the end was too ripe then we'd cut that off and use the rest. i think we've thrown about ten tomatoes away right from the vine (complete loss of that fruit). for the four buckets we did yesterday there was of course all the air spaces in between the tomatoes, but in the end we had one full bucket of cores and peels/seeds/ends/bits after processing. a bucket weighs around 22-24lbs depending upon the size and how high we stack them. roughly 60lbs went in the 28qts and 28lbs will go back to the ground. the math i presented in my original post was working backwards from 103qts total so far produced. we've been getting about 7qts per bucket so doing the math of 22lbs/bucket and ending up with about 15 buckets of fruit so far (i.e. 330lbs) just to put up the 103qts. that does not include what we have eaten or given away. i know we've given away over 80lbs as i've carried much of it. as for eating, we've eaten one to two tomatoes a day since they've come in and handfuls of cherry tomatoes. for two people that's about another 80lbs. 330+160=490lbs with more to come. Wow! But still Bird , the Missouri thing comes out and ya cannot show me that your not being a bit too enthusiastic with your numbers. It is human nature after all especially when called out on a public forum. So don't take it too personal, but seriously folks tend to inflate for ego.... just look at billy.... so a grain of salt and such. you may take it however you'd like. i know i'm not inflating numbers because i'm using the low end to begin with (instead of 24+lbs per bucket i'm using 22lbs) and i'm weighing the buckets before processing and we are writing down the number of quarts produced. there is no enthusiasm in the number of quarts as that is solid fact. you're welcome to visit and count the jars. inspect the number of plants. talk to people we've given fruit to. etc. Still good on ya. Lets see what the next few months bring ya. I'll still be growing. the final tally will be in a bit yet, and that will depend upon if i feel ambitious enough to harvest the greens and put any of those up or to let the worms have them. one last celebratory fried green tomato usually marks the end of the season. Canned toms are a buck ten for a 28 oz these days up here. Hot house vines are 2.29-2.99 a # and they are from the PNW, not CA., Fla. AZ, nor Mexico. i can't stand the taste of canned tomatoes or juice (watered down, metallic and salty). get the price of organic, glass jar, 100% tomato juice or chunks, no water, sugar or salt added and then you'd be comparable. though certainly i could not compete with the purchasing power of a major producer for the price of jars or lids, but my overhead is peanuts compared to them too. and i have no distribution or advertising costs. next time we visit the farm stand down the road that sells canning tomatoes i'll check his prices (i think they were about $10/half bushel, but i will check). we buy the sweet corn and melons from him. i think he grows organic. BTW do you ever read market reports? may not mean anything to you but it is a good gauge for your efforts: http://produceone.com/markets/ no, as i'm not selling these tomatoes or the quarts that have been put up. organic prices would be more comparable. .... MICHIGAN : TOMATOES Demand: GOOD. Market: STEADY. Basis of Sale: Sales F.O.B. Shipping Point and/or Delivered Sales, Shipping Point Basis MICHIGAN : TOMATOES Package: 25 lb cartons loose Variety: VINE RIPES Reporting City: BENTON HARBOR, MI Date Low-High Price Mostly Low-High Price Season Item Size Environment Color Unit of Sale Quality Condition Storage Appearance Import/Export Comment 09/02/2011 13.95 - 15.35 13.95 - 14.35 2011 5x5 sz occas higher 09/02/2011 12.00 - 14.35 12.00 - 13.95 2011 5x6 sz occas higher 09/02/2011 12.00 - 14.35 12.00 - 13.95 2011 6x6 sz occas higher MICHIGAN : TOMATOES Package: cartons 2 layer Variety: VINE RIPES Reporting City: BENTON HARBOR, MI Date Low-High Price Mostly Low-High Price Season Item Size Environment Color Unit of Sale Quality Condition Storage Appearance Import/Export Comment 09/02/2011 12.00 - 15.95 12.85 - 14.35 2011 4x5s occas higher 09/02/2011 12.00 - 15.95 12.85 - 14.35 2011 5x5s occas higher .... trimmed down to these local prices (as i'm in MI). so ~180- 200$ to 300$ wholesale for your efforts is a more realistic figure. Nice little backyard project. organic? Do check these out, bit old but they are a pretty good standard that can be verified, not that I do not trust your figures but i do not think you truly understand the macro view in your zeal to have folks buy into the organo billy world. Know there are pros and cons to all, just don't try to tell me you have a one size fits all like billy pretends. OK? That is really stupid thinking. the ultimate judge will be the quality of the land/air/water in a hundred years. will our children be able to have children and will they be able to live healthy lives? i'm hoping to keep these few acres going for as long as i can. i'm not sure what the future holds, but i do know i'm liking the results so far from my shift away from using various sprays and encouraging helpful critters. http://www.uky.edu/Ag/HLA/anderson/gh_tom.htm http://midwestpermaculture.com/self-...fit-potential/ BTW Its still Gunner unless you want me to keep flipping you guys the bird? Your call. ok, Gunner. [whatever you do with your fingers is your business ] now i gotta get a move on and get some peaches picked and start putting them up. songbird |
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