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Hi Songbird,

I painstakingly collected seeds from my Anaheim (California)
peppers last fall. I followed collection your directions.

It is getting close to planting. I have to risk the
freezes and the hatching earwigs. Too soon the get
frostbite; too late they get eaten.

How many seeds would you plant per hole? I do five with zucchini, but
how many for hot peppers?

Would you add a bit of organic fertilizer, or wait for
them to grow a bit first?

Many thanks,
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T wrote:
Hi Songbird,

I painstakingly collected seeds from my Anaheim (California)
peppers last fall. I followed collection your directions.

It is getting close to planting. I have to risk the
freezes and the hatching earwigs. Too soon the get
frostbite; too late they get eaten.

How many seeds would you plant per hole? I do five with zucchini, but
how many for hot peppers?


i'm not a pepper expert. they are warm weather plants
so you can't plant them outside into cold ground or chances of
cold weather at all.

start them early in pots indoors in a place where the soil
will be kept warm. that is about all i know about starting
them aside from the common sense that you don't want them
to be completely dried out.


Would you add a bit of organic fertilizer, or wait for
them to grow a bit first?


organic fertilizer is usually weak so perhaps ok but to
my habits i never fertilize anything until it is actively
growing unless i'm amending the garden for some specific
plants like tomatoes and onions which don't mind more
nutrients.


songbird
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T wrote:
Hi Songbird,

I painstakingly collected seeds from my Anaheim (California)
peppers last fall. I followed collection your directions.

It is getting close to planting. I have to risk the
freezes and the hatching earwigs. Too soon the get
frostbite; too late they get eaten.

How many seeds would you plant per hole? I do five with zucchini, but
how many for hot peppers?


i'm not a pepper expert. they are warm weather plants
so you can't plant them outside into cold ground or chances of
cold weather at all.

start them early in pots indoors in a place where the soil
will be kept warm. that is about all i know about starting
them aside from the common sense that you don't want them
to be completely dried out.


Would you add a bit of organic fertilizer, or wait for
them to grow a bit first?


organic fertilizer is usually weak so perhaps ok but to
my habits i never fertilize anything until it is actively
growing unless i'm amending the garden for some specific
plants like tomatoes and onions which don't mind more
nutrients.


songbird


Thank you!
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On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
start them early in pots indoors


How many seeds per pot?
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On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
start them early in pots indoors


How many seeds per pot?


3-4, how many plants you want?

warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


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On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
start them early in pots indoors


How many seeds per pot?


3-4, how many plants you want?

warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


songbird


I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
how to harvest them.

I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:14:43 -0700, T wrote:

Thank you!


Me too!
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"T" wrote in message ...
On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
start them early in pots indoors

How many seeds per pot?


3-4, how many plants you want?

warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


songbird


I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
how to harvest them.

I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.


You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position and
use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green
houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will
protect the soil as well as the plants.

Mike


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On 4/23/21 9:03 PM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
"T" wrote in message ...
On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
start them early in pots indoors

How many seeds per pot?

3-4, how many plants you want?

warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


songbird


I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
how to harvest them.

I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.


You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position and
use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green
houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will
protect the soil as well as the plants.

Mike


Thank you!

Do they protect against the freeze?

Do you need t open them up in the day to let
new air in and respiration out?
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T wrote:
On 4/23/21 9:03 PM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
"T" wrote in message ...
On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
start them early in pots indoors

How many seeds per pot?

3-4, how many plants you want?

warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


songbird


I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
how to harvest them.

I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.


You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position and
use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green
houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will
protect the soil as well as the plants.

Mike


Thank you!

Do they protect against the freeze?

Do you need t open them up in the day to let
new air in and respiration out?


i don't recommend this sort of thing for someone who's not
around frequenly enough to keep track of conditions.

you can fry, freeze or dry out a plant too easily left out,
it's much better to do things in a more controlled area until
the weather outside gets at least warm enough to make sure
you're not freezing the plants and you have enough roots in
the ground to provide a moisture buffer for drying out and also
the thermal mass which keeps things at least a bit more stable.

a plant in a pot with a cover over it, you can do that for
some plants, in dappled light and under trees and such, but
once there is direct light that can get way too hot too quickly.

i just know that some people are not that attentive and can
forget to water or check on things so ... imo better to be
safer than to lose plants.

one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
they're food. some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.


songbird


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"songbird" wrote in message
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T wrote:
On 4/23/21 9:03 PM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
"T" wrote in message
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On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
start them early in pots indoors

How many seeds per pot?

3-4, how many plants you want?

warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


songbird


I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
how to harvest them.

I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.

You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position
and
use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green
houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will
protect the soil as well as the plants.

Mike


Thank you!

Do they protect against the freeze?

Do you need t open them up in the day to let
new air in and respiration out?


i don't recommend this sort of thing for someone who's not
around frequenly enough to keep track of conditions.

you can fry, freeze or dry out a plant too easily left out,
it's much better to do things in a more controlled area until
the weather outside gets at least warm enough to make sure
you're not freezing the plants and you have enough roots in
the ground to provide a moisture buffer for drying out and also
the thermal mass which keeps things at least a bit more stable.

a plant in a pot with a cover over it, you can do that for
some plants, in dappled light and under trees and such, but
once there is direct light that can get way too hot too quickly.

i just know that some people are not that attentive and can
forget to water or check on things so ... imo better to be
safer than to lose plants.

one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
they're food. some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.


songbird


I agree with most things here you do need to keep them in a sheltered
position possibly under a tree or the eves of the house, keeping them closed
maintains the humidity and if the pots are in a container you can top the
container up with water to keep the pots moist. Certainly don't try this in
direct sunlight or during the summer, just imagine sitting in your car in
the sunlight.

Mike



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On 4/24/21 4:47 AM, songbird wrote:
one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
they're food. some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.


Every so often I see something about sticking some
fish (Asian carp?) at the bottom of your hole and
"see what happens". I can't help but think "Oh, I see something dug up
all my plants with fish under it!"

:'(

The fertilizer I use, if chicken scat based.

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On 4/29/2021 3:54 PM, T wrote:
On 4/24/21 4:47 AM, songbird wrote:
one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
they're food.* some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.


Every so often I see something about sticking some
fish (Asian carp?) at the bottom of your hole and
"see what happens".* I can't help but think "Oh, I see something dug up
all my plants with fish under it!"

:'(

The fertilizer I use, if chicken scat based.


Be careful T , fresh chicken shit can be very hard on your plants . I
let the hay/shit from out hen house compost for at least 6 months before
using it on the garden - I don't know the history of the stuff you're
using so ... Rabbit shit , however , can be used right away , and has
better long-term nourishment for your plants .
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On 4/29/21 3:16 PM, Snag wrote:
On 4/29/2021 3:54 PM, T wrote:
On 4/24/21 4:47 AM, songbird wrote:
one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
they're food.* some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.


Every so often I see something about sticking some
fish (Asian carp?) at the bottom of your hole and
"see what happens".* I can't help but think "Oh, I see something dug
up all my plants with fish under it!"

:'(

The fertilizer I use, if chicken scat based.


* Be careful T , fresh chicken shit can be very hard on your plants . I
let the hay/shit from out hen house compost for at least 6 months before
using it on the garden - I don't know the history of the stuff you're
using so ... Rabbit shit , however , can be used right away , and has
better long-term nourishment for your plants .


Ya, I have heard that several places.

I buy my chicken s*** in a bag at wally world. Organic fertilizer for
tomatoes (means it has more calcium).

I have heard that goat s*** works well too.

And the freakin' neighborhood cats keep s***ing
in my garden too. Time to place some toothpicks!




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