Monitors used to be sold as 13,14,15,17,19,21 inches. Now you will
see 15.9",18.1",20.1" these are formerly 17", 19", 21" monitors. They
now show overly accurate sizes because for years they out and out
lied. Viewable areas were as much as 2 inches smaller than stated. I
got a check for a couple of bucks from the class action lawsuit
regarding this. woo-hoo!



I say we revolt! There are people out there who can help us get what we were
told we were getting...A HREF="http://www.ncwm.net/main.html"The National
Conference on Weights and Measures…/A
I'm pretty sure a standard measure should be the same no matter what it holds.
If I was cooking and I needed 5 gallons of something and I used that 5 gallon
pot to measure with I would have a problem. Don't let them just get away with
not giving you what was advertised!
Write a complaint and E-mail it to:
I think each state has a department of weights and measures too. Write to them
to or the evil pot dealers will keep getting away with this crime!
Speak up and you will be heard!

"Repeating Decimal" wrote in message
...
in article , David
Hare-Scott
at wrote on 6/27/03 1:35 AM:

Your sums are right giving 785 cu in and it seems (not being a
native
user of US gallons) there are in fact 231 cubic inches per US
(liquid)
gallon. So it looks like these pots are a very nominal 5 gallons.
Since you are buying a plant not an amount of soil I don't suppose
it
matters much. I wouldn't want to buy soil, compost, etc from
somebody
who used those volume measures though :-)

It does matter! Bigger pots, supposedly have larger plants than
smaller
ones. This is especially true for fruit trees where the plants can be
very
expensive. On canned soup supplier was once nailed for filling its
bowl with
marbles in order to make you think you were getting more than you
were.

Bill


I would judge the value for money on the size and quality of the plant
against the price. To me the amount of dirt is only important to make
sure they were not root bound. If you feel agrieved by all means
complain.

David

I was impressed with all the math work going on here. But why not do
it the simpler way? Tape off any holes in the pot and see how many
gallons of water you can pour in it till it fills up. An empty milk
jug would work nice.

in article , Gary The Rookie
Farmer at wrote on 6/27/03 6:59 PM:

I was impressed with all the math work going on here. But why not do
it the simpler way? Tape off any holes in the pot and see how many
gallons of water you can pour in it till it fills up. An empty milk
jug would work nice.

Simple is in the eye of the beholder.

Bill

Aaron Baugher said:

"Lorenzo L. Love" writes:

That's about right. A gallon pot normally holds about 3/4
gallon. Don't try to make sense of it.

It's probably a full gallon if you heap it up.

Or takes a full gallon of loose potting soil, tamped down into it...
--
Pat in Plymouth MI

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)

"Lorenzo L. Love" wrote in message
...
Repeating Decimal wrote:
The five gallon containers for plants always seemed small to me.
Today I got
to measure one of them. When I calculated the volume, it was 3.4
gallons not
five. Am I missing something? Is there a arcane standard for this?

Bill


That's about right. A gallon pot normally holds about 3/4 gallon.
Don't
try to make sense of it.

Back before plastic containers, one gallon plants were sold in metal No.
10 cans which contained only 96 fluid ounces (3/4 gallon). When plastic
containers came into common use in about the mid 1960s, the pots were
tapered but the height and circumference at the top were the same as a
No. 10 can and the plants were the same size but the container volume
evn less than a No. 10 can but still occupied the same space in shipping
containers and continued to be called one gallon plants. I think it is
just common usage and the nursery industry would get confused if you
called it a 0.75 gallon can. Has anybody ever complained about the
liquid volume of a 10 gallon hat? -Olin

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:37:46 GMT, "jc" wrote:

Back before plastic containers, one gallon plants were sold in metal No.
10 cans which contained only 96 fluid ounces (3/4 gallon). When plastic
containers came into common use in about the mid 1960s, the pots were
tapered but the height and circumference at the top were the same as a
No. 10 can and the plants were the same size but the container volume
evn less than a No. 10 can but still occupied the same space in shipping
containers and continued to be called one gallon plants. I think it is
just common usage and the nursery industry would get confused if you
called it a 0.75 gallon can. Has anybody ever complained about the
liquid volume of a 10 gallon hat?

^_^ Perhaps plant containers are like lumber -- a 2x4 is what?
1.something" by 3.something"? As long as everyone agrees on the
*definition*, as opposed to the actual dimensions, the gazebo gets
built. However, pot sizing may be less familiar than wood
"measurements."

writes:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:37:46 GMT, "jc" wrote:

Back before plastic containers, one gallon plants were sold in metal No.
10 cans which contained only 96 fluid ounces (3/4 gallon). When plastic
containers came into common use in about the mid 1960s, the pots were
tapered but the height and circumference at the top were the same as a
No. 10 can and the plants were the same size but the container volume
evn less than a No. 10 can but still occupied the same space in shipping
containers and continued to be called one gallon plants. I think it is
just common usage and the nursery industry would get confused if you
called it a 0.75 gallon can. Has anybody ever complained about the
liquid volume of a 10 gallon hat?

^_^ Perhaps plant containers are like lumber -- a 2x4 is what?
1.something" by 3.something"? As long as everyone agrees on the
*definition*, as opposed to the actual dimensions, the gazebo gets
built. However, pot sizing may be less familiar than wood
"measurements."

Actually, 2x4 lumber used to be 2x4 which can cause problems when
remodeling a turn-of-the-century (19th to 20th) or older.

Now I'm wondering about that 10-gallon hat! LOL

Glenna

"Glenna Rose" wrote in message
news:fc.003d0941019d4dbe3b9aca00139809de.19d4dc3@p mug.org...
writes:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:37:46 GMT, "jc" wrote:

Back before plastic containers, one gallon plants were sold in metal
No.
10 cans which contained only 96 fluid ounces (3/4 gallon). When
plastic
containers came into common use in about the mid 1960s, the pots
were
tapered but the height and circumference at the top were the same as
a
No. 10 can and the plants were the same size but the container
volume
evn less than a No. 10 can but still occupied the same space in
shipping
containers and continued to be called one gallon plants. I think it
is
just common usage and the nursery industry would get confused if you
called it a 0.75 gallon can. Has anybody ever complained about the
liquid volume of a 10 gallon hat?

^_^ Perhaps plant containers are like lumber -- a 2x4 is what?
1.something" by 3.something"? As long as everyone agrees on the
*definition*, as opposed to the actual dimensions, the gazebo gets
built. However, pot sizing may be less familiar than wood
"measurements."

Actually, 2x4 lumber used to be 2x4 which can cause problems when
remodeling a turn-of-the-century (19th to 20th) or older.
Now I'm wondering about that 10-gallon hat! LOL
Glenna

Rough-cut 2X4s are still 2"X4". Used to be a planed 2X4 was 1 5/8" by 3
5/8" which was arrived at by planing 3/16" off each surface of a
rough-cut 2X4. For a long time now, planed 2X4s have been still
smaller - 1.5 X 3.5 inches. So to be technically correct, I suppose
the term for 2X4s as we know them should be "planed" 2X4s. As to the 10
gallon hat, I believe it has to do with the number of braids, or the
number of strands in the braid, around the crown of the hat and not to
its liquid capacity. -Olin

jc wrote:


Rough-cut 2X4s are still 2"X4". Used to be a planed 2X4 was 1 5/8" by 3
5/8" which was arrived at by planing 3/16" off each surface of a
rough-cut 2X4. For a long time now, planed 2X4s have been still
smaller - 1.5 X 3.5 inches. So to be technically correct, I suppose
the term for 2X4s as we know them should be "planed" 2X4s. As to the 10
gallon hat, I believe it has to do with the number of braids, or the
number of strands in the braid, around the crown of the hat and not to
its liquid capacity. -Olin

2x4's are denominated "nominal" for those whose dimensions _were_ 2x4 and
"dimensional" for those that _are_ 2x4 after drying, etc. (Drying shrinks
lumber.)

No clue how 5 gallon buckets came to hold anything less than 5 gals.

Bill
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