I read through the group to get a feel for things: this is my 1st post of
this type. I have bought scotch bonnets to make my homemade chicken wing
sauce, but I want it hotter in the future. I know I could use Capsaicin
concentrate, but have no idea if it is necessary (yet), or if it is
available to me in a store. Will I be able to find Red Savina habaneros
either fresh, or in seed form in Toronto and could I get them to grow? If I
were to have a pet plant this would have to be it, and I could give some
special attention.

Up until then, I have just pulled the seeds from some scotch bonnets, within
the inside pod or whatever it is called, and have them sitting in a glass
jar in the fridge. What do I do with these scotch bonnet seeds right now and
in the mean time?

As far I know, the last frost date here could be June 1st, so giving 10
weeks germination (12-14 in a short growing season), which is what I assume
TO is, then I should put seeds in some dirt about the 10th of March indoors.
If I can follow some simple procedure, I will give scotch bonnets a try. I'm
really hoping for Red Savina though. I don't want to do anything heroic: I
can get some good soil(s), fertilizer(s), pot(s) or flats, cover(s), I'll
water them, etc., but I don't know about heating pads or fluorescent lights
(mostly b/c I don't have them).

This is what I can see: I can make a plywood greenhouse and line it with
aluminum foil, and put in a fluorescent lamp, maybe one of those round ones,
to get the soil temp up. Can I use one pot, with one soil, except with the
top inch or three having peat mixed in for germination. I do have some room
in the ground, but I think I could use the same big pot and take it outdoors
June 5th.

bent wrote:
I read through the group to get a feel for things: this is my 1st post of
this type. I have bought scotch bonnets to make my homemade chicken wing
sauce, but I want it hotter in the future. I know I could use Capsaicin
concentrate, but have no idea if it is necessary (yet), or if it is
available to me in a store. Will I be able to find Red Savina habaneros
either fresh, or in seed form in Toronto and could I get them to grow? If I
were to have a pet plant this would have to be it, and I could give some
special attention.

Up until then, I have just pulled the seeds from some scotch bonnets, within
the inside pod or whatever it is called, and have them sitting in a glass
jar in the fridge. What do I do with these scotch bonnet seeds right now and
in the mean time?

As far I know, the last frost date here could be June 1st, so giving 10
weeks germination (12-14 in a short growing season), which is what I assume
TO is, then I should put seeds in some dirt about the 10th of March indoors.
If I can follow some simple procedure, I will give scotch bonnets a try. I'm
really hoping for Red Savina though. I don't want to do anything heroic: I
can get some good soil(s), fertilizer(s), pot(s) or flats, cover(s), I'll
water them, etc., but I don't know about heating pads or fluorescent lights
(mostly b/c I don't have them).

This is what I can see: I can make a plywood greenhouse and line it with
aluminum foil, and put in a fluorescent lamp, maybe one of those round ones,
to get the soil temp up. Can I use one pot, with one soil, except with the
top inch or three having peat mixed in for germination. I do have some room
in the ground, but I think I could use the same big pot and take it outdoors
June 5th.





If I can grow them in Minnesota, you should be able to grow them in
Toronto. (if the summer has unusually cool nights, like last year, the
yield from peppers and tomatoes may not be very good)

I will probably start my tobasco and dundicutt pepper seeds in about a
week, and my other hot peppers in late February; the tomatoes about
April 1. I get best germination when I sit the pepper and tomato flats
on the back of the fluorescent lights for warmth. I have a heating
cable, but I think I cooked my seeds one year :-(

Best regards,
Bob

Do you mean Red Savina or scotch bonnet?

bent wrote:
Do you mean Red Savina or scotch bonnet?



I mean just about any kind of hot pepper I grow, including some red or
chocolate colored habaneros.

This year I'm going to try Fatalii, I've eaten them before and they
were very good and extremely hot -- and they supposedly produce well in
northern climates. I bought Fatalii seeds a few years ago and they
turned out to be a mislabled very poor strain of habanero. So I bought
seeds from a different vendor this time. I haven't planted them yet
because it's a little early.

If you can grow tomatoes, you should be able to grow just about any hot
pepper except maybe Rocoto. You just have to start the pepper seeds a
lot earlier than tomatoes.

Bob

bent wrote:
Do you mean Red Savina or scotch bonnet?



I mean just about any kind of hot pepper I grow, including some red or
chocolate colored habaneros.

This year I'm going to try Fatalii, I've eaten them before and they
were very good and extremely hot -- and they supposedly produce well in
northern climates. I bought Fatalii seeds a few years ago and they
turned out to be a mislabled very poor strain of habanero. So I bought
seeds from a different vendor this time. I haven't planted them yet
because it's a little early.

If you can grow tomatoes, you should be able to grow just about any hot
pepper except maybe Rocoto. You just have to start the pepper seeds a
lot earlier than tomatoes.

Bob

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:15:28 -0500, "bent" wrote:

Do you mean Red Savina or scotch bonnet?


What kind of Scotch Bonnet? grin

If you can grow Scotch Bonnets, you can probably grow Red Savinas.
Scotch Bonnets and Red Savinas are _C chinense_, and are all
considered long season peppers, I think.

Penelope

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:43:46 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

cut to the chase

If you can grow tomatoes, you should be able to grow just about any hot
pepper except maybe Rocoto. You just have to start the pepper seeds a
lot earlier than tomatoes.

Why Rocoto? Are they especially long season, or are they sensitive to
cool temps? They're _C.pubescens_, correct?

The only _C chinense_ I have ever had problems with is Chocolate Long
Habeneros. It had just started to bloom heavily when we had an unusual
cool and rainy spell. It dropped the blossoms, and never produced
anymore. I have noticed that some varieties are more sensitive to cool
weather than others, but that's the only one I've ever grown that I
didn't get a single pepper off of. Most _C chinense_ are so productive
that one or two plants produce the greatest of plenty peppers!


Penelope

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:43:46 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

cut to the chase

If you can grow tomatoes, you should be able to grow just about any hot
pepper except maybe Rocoto. You just have to start the pepper seeds a
lot earlier than tomatoes.

Why Rocoto? Are they especially long season, or are they sensitive to
cool temps? They're _C.pubescens_, correct?

The only _C chinense_ I have ever had problems with is Chocolate Long
Habeneros. It had just started to bloom heavily when we had an unusual
cool and rainy spell. It dropped the blossoms, and never produced
anymore. I have noticed that some varieties are more sensitive to cool
weather than others, but that's the only one I've ever grown that I
didn't get a single pepper off of. Most _C chinense_ are so productive
that one or two plants produce the greatest of plenty peppers!


Penelope

Penelope Periwinkle wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:43:46 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

cut to the chase

If you can grow tomatoes, you should be able to grow just about any hot
pepper except maybe Rocoto. You just have to start the pepper seeds a
lot earlier than tomatoes.


Why Rocoto? Are they especially long season, or are they sensitive to
cool temps? They're _C.pubescens_, correct?

They probably like cool temps. The problem is the extremely long
season. (I've only tried them once and gave up. YMMV) Yes, they are
C. pubescens, and the plants are interesting.


The only _C chinense_ I have ever had problems with is Chocolate Long
Habeneros. It had just started to bloom heavily when we had an unusual
cool and rainy spell. It dropped the blossoms, and never produced
anymore. I have noticed that some varieties are more sensitive to cool
weather than others, but that's the only one I've ever grown that I
didn't get a single pepper off of. Most _C chinense_ are so productive
that one or two plants produce the greatest of plenty peppers!


Penelope

Penelope Periwinkle wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:43:46 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

cut to the chase

If you can grow tomatoes, you should be able to grow just about any hot
pepper except maybe Rocoto. You just have to start the pepper seeds a
lot earlier than tomatoes.


Why Rocoto? Are they especially long season, or are they sensitive to
cool temps? They're _C.pubescens_, correct?

They probably like cool temps. The problem is the extremely long
season. (I've only tried them once and gave up. YMMV) Yes, they are
C. pubescens, and the plants are interesting.


The only _C chinense_ I have ever had problems with is Chocolate Long
Habeneros. It had just started to bloom heavily when we had an unusual
cool and rainy spell. It dropped the blossoms, and never produced
anymore. I have noticed that some varieties are more sensitive to cool
weather than others, but that's the only one I've ever grown that I
didn't get a single pepper off of. Most _C chinense_ are so productive
that one or two plants produce the greatest of plenty peppers!


Penelope

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:16:10 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

Rocoto Peppers

They probably like cool temps. The problem is the extremely long
season. (I've only tried them once and gave up. YMMV) Yes, they are
C. pubescens, and the plants are interesting.

Ah, ok. Thank you.

I belive my season is longer than yours since I'm in the south, but I
wonder if the heat and humidity would adversly affect them? Maybe
I'll try one as a test this year.

Penelope

Penelope Periwinkle wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:16:10 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

Rocoto Peppers

They probably like cool temps. The problem is the extremely long
season. (I've only tried them once and gave up. YMMV) Yes, they are
C. pubescens, and the plants are interesting.


Ah, ok. Thank you.

I belive my season is longer than yours since I'm in the south, but I
wonder if the heat and humidity would adversly affect them? Maybe
I'll try one as a test this year.

Penelope

They should do very well in the south if you plant them in very bright
shade or partial sun. They won't do so well in full sun -- or at least
that's what I've read.

Bob

Penelope Periwinkle wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:16:10 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

Rocoto Peppers

They probably like cool temps. The problem is the extremely long
season. (I've only tried them once and gave up. YMMV) Yes, they are
C. pubescens, and the plants are interesting.


Ah, ok. Thank you.

I belive my season is longer than yours since I'm in the south, but I
wonder if the heat and humidity would adversly affect them? Maybe
I'll try one as a test this year.

Penelope

They should do very well in the south if you plant them in very bright
shade or partial sun. They won't do so well in full sun -- or at least
that's what I've read.

Bob

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:48:05 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:
Penelope Periwinkle wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:16:10 -0600, zxcvbob wrote:

Rocoto Peppers

They probably like cool temps. The problem is the extremely long
season. (I've only tried them once and gave up. YMMV) Yes, they are
C. pubescens, and the plants are interesting.

I belive my season is longer than yours since I'm in the south, but I
wonder if the heat and humidity would adversly affect them? Maybe
I'll try one as a test this year.

Penelope

They should do very well in the south if you plant them in very bright
shade or partial sun. They won't do so well in full sun -- or at least
that's what I've read.

Tsk, now you've done it. I'll have to plant one just to see if I can
grow it!

Like I need another pepper to add to my list!


Penelope

Penelope Periwinkle wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:48:05 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

Penelope Periwinkle wrote:


On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:16:10 -0600, zxcvbob wrote:

Rocoto Peppers

They probably like cool temps. The problem is the extremely long
season. (I've only tried them once and gave up. YMMV) Yes, they are
C. pubescens, and the plants are interesting.


I belive my season is longer than yours since I'm in the south, but I
wonder if the heat and humidity would adversly affect them? Maybe
I'll try one as a test this year.

Penelope

They should do very well in the south if you plant them in very bright
shade or partial sun. They won't do so well in full sun -- or at least
that's what I've read.


Tsk, now you've done it. I'll have to plant one just to see if I can
grow it!

Like I need another pepper to add to my list!


Penelope



Are you gonna grow the red ones or the yellow ones? ;-)

Bob