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Old 12-03-2005, 06:33 PM
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Hi,

I am in Northern California and the weather is so beautiful so I
thought of growing some tmatoe and herbs in containers as I live in an
apartment. Pity not to have a house with a big yard here! anyway,

I want plant some herbs in the same container as the tomatoes. I don't
know what would be a good match to grow in the same part. I guess Basil
and chives are good choices, But

I need lots of Mint and Basil and French Tarragon, I love them so much
, just eat them raw with my food!

So, I thought grow Mint in one container. French Tarragon in one.

I don't need that much Oregano, Thyme and chive. So can I grow these
three in the same container where I grow my tomatoes.

I went to nursery yesterday and there is so many different thymes?
which one should I get? I am concerned about the falvor.

How about Bell peppers, Can I grow them in the same container with
herbs or tomatoes? How big they get, How big a container Ineed to grow
peppers?

And finally last question! I have got "Sweet 100" and "Early girl"
tomatoes so far. I want to get 2-3 more. What do you recommend? I am
looking for high yeild and long season bearing.

Hope to get answers soon, Many thanks in advance.

Gardner Newbie.

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Old 12-03-2005, 07:52 PM
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You are going need some huge containers. From my experience, the root system
from one tomato plant alone takes up almost the whole container.

Tomato plants can and do grow at times to the excess of 6 feet tall

Read up on companion planting. I have read that basil and tomatoes work well
together but that you should not plant chives with tomatoes.


"tomato lover" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

I am in Northern California and the weather is so beautiful so I
thought of growing some tmatoe and herbs in containers as I live in an
apartment. Pity not to have a house with a big yard here! anyway,

I want plant some herbs in the same container as the tomatoes. I don't
know what would be a good match to grow in the same part. I guess Basil
and chives are good choices, But

I need lots of Mint and Basil and French Tarragon, I love them so much
, just eat them raw with my food!

So, I thought grow Mint in one container. French Tarragon in one.

I don't need that much Oregano, Thyme and chive. So can I grow these
three in the same container where I grow my tomatoes.

I went to nursery yesterday and there is so many different thymes?
which one should I get? I am concerned about the falvor.

How about Bell peppers, Can I grow them in the same container with
herbs or tomatoes? How big they get, How big a container Ineed to grow
peppers?

And finally last question! I have got "Sweet 100" and "Early girl"
tomatoes so far. I want to get 2-3 more. What do you recommend? I am
looking for high yeild and long season bearing.

Hope to get answers soon, Many thanks in advance.

Gardner Newbie.



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Old 12-03-2005, 08:39 PM
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"tomato lover" wrote in message
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Hi,

I am in Northern California and the weather is so beautiful so I
thought of growing some tmatoe and herbs in containers as I live in an
apartment. Pity not to have a house with a big yard here! anyway,

I want plant some herbs in the same container as the tomatoes. I don't
know what would be a good match to grow in the same part. I guess Basil
and chives are good choices, But

I need lots of Mint and Basil and French Tarragon, I love them so much
, just eat them raw with my food!

So, I thought grow Mint in one container. French Tarragon in one.

I don't need that much Oregano, Thyme and chive. So can I grow these
three in the same container where I grow my tomatoes.

I went to nursery yesterday and there is so many different thymes?


It's because you live in America. The one you want is Pacific Standard Thyme
:-))

Steve




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Old 12-03-2005, 09:47 PM
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, says...
Hi,

I am in Northern California and the weather is so beautiful so I
thought of growing some tomato and herbs in containers as I live in an
apartment.



Be aware that tomatoes like lots of light and heat.


I went to nursery yesterday and there is so many different thymes?
which one should I get? I am concerned about the flavor.



Maybe just be patient, and try a few different types
over a period of time. That was how I settled on my
favourite lettuce (Buttercrunch.) I may very well just
keep doing different tomato varieties each year. Etc,
etc.


How about Bell peppers, Can I grow them in the same container with
herbs or tomatoes? How big they get, How big a container Ineed to grow
peppers?



I strongly suggest planting them alone. I use 10-litre
(2 and a half gal) buckets for those. Maybe a foot and
a half tall for my largest one right now. BTW, I
suggest using a single bamboo stake next to the main
stem, and loosely tie the plant to it, for stability.


And finally last question! I have got "Sweet 100" and "Early girl"
tomatoes so far. I want to get 2-3 more. What do you recommend? I am
looking for high yeild and long season bearing.



There might be more specific advice if you say exactly
how much total space you have for all the plants.
Another issue is your light - what direction is your
apartment facing? Do you have a balcony or other
outside area, or is everything indoors?

Also, patience is very important with any fruiting type
vegetable. Lettuce can yield fairly fast (maybe 10
weeks or so - I haven't kept track.) But things like
tomatoes, capsicums (bell peppers), cucumbers, etc,
take many months of care before you can start eating.
For example, my capsicums that I planted in September,
are still working on some small fruits, and similar-
aged tomato plants have had some ripe fruits, but most
are still green.


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Old 13-03-2005, 12:53 AM
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tomato lover wrote:
Hi,

I am in Northern California and the weather is so beautiful so I
thought of growing some tmatoe and herbs in containers as I live in an
apartment. Pity not to have a house with a big yard here! anyway,

I want plant some herbs in the same container as the tomatoes. I don't
know what would be a good match to grow in the same part. I guess Basil
and chives are good choices, But

I need lots of Mint and Basil and French Tarragon, I love them so much
, just eat them raw with my food!

So, I thought grow Mint in one container. French Tarragon in one.

I don't need that much Oregano, Thyme and chive. So can I grow these
three in the same container where I grow my tomatoes.

I went to nursery yesterday and there is so many different thymes?
which one should I get? I am concerned about the falvor.

How about Bell peppers, Can I grow them in the same container with
herbs or tomatoes? How big they get, How big a container Ineed to grow
peppers?

And finally last question! I have got "Sweet 100" and "Early girl"
tomatoes so far. I want to get 2-3 more. What do you recommend? I am
looking for high yeild and long season bearing.

Hope to get answers soon, Many thanks in advance.

Gardner Newbie.

I've read that Basil is an excellent companion plant for tomatoes. I
wouldn't know from personal experience as I _always_ have Basil growing
;-) Marigolds are also good companions for tomatoes, and catnip is great
to grow with just about everything.

As for the thyme, if you are looking for the best thyme like flavor, go
with common (or vulgar) thyme or lemon thyme. I probably have four or
five different thymes going right now. I get the best look from the
silver thyme, but it's flavor is not as full.

Be careful growing herbs, though, they have a way of creeping into your
senses (and heart) and changing you forever.

David



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Old 13-03-2005, 04:03 AM
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:47:07 -0800, Antipodean Bucket Farmer
wrote:

In article
s.com
, says...
Hi,

I am in Northern California and the weather is so beautiful so I
thought of growing some tomato and herbs in containers as I live in an
apartment.



Be aware that tomatoes like lots of light and heat.


Actually, they don't like really hot weather. Around here, the
tomatoes slow down or stop setting fruit when the temperatures
stay above 80 F during the night and in the upper 90's during
the day. Some varieties are more heat tolerant than others, but
too much heat can be as bad for tomatoes as too much cold.


...

Also, patience is very important with any fruiting type
vegetable. Lettuce can yield fairly fast (maybe 10
weeks or so - I haven't kept track.) But things like
tomatoes, capsicums (bell peppers), cucumbers, etc,
take many months of care before you can start eating.
For example, my capsicums that I planted in September,
are still working on some small fruits, and similar-
aged tomato plants have had some ripe fruits, but most
are still green.


Most of the tomato or pepper varieties I look at here in the
States at the very least list whether they're long, short, or
mid-season. Most give the number of days to first fruit from
when the plant is set out.

And, um, am I counting it right...you're saying that after 6
months you still don't have many ripe peppers or tomatoes?
Those are some _very_ long season varieties! I always plant
some short season varieties; patience may be a virtue, but it's
not one of mine.


Penelope


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Old 13-03-2005, 04:16 AM
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On 12 Mar 2005 10:33:26 -0800, "tomato lover"
wrote:

I want plant some herbs in the same container as the tomatoes. I don't
know what would be a good match to grow in the same part. I guess Basil
and chives are good choices, But

I need lots of Mint and Basil and French Tarragon, I love them so much
, just eat them raw with my food!

So, I thought grow Mint in one container. French Tarragon in one.


You can grow the mint around the tomatoes or peppers, too.
There's spearmint around the Grenada Seasoning pepper that
I've overwintered the last 2 years, and both plants are thriving.

I don't need that much Oregano, Thyme and chive. So can I grow these
three in the same container where I grow my tomatoes.


Just make sure the tomato doesn't shade them. They like sun.

I went to nursery yesterday and there is so many different thymes?
which one should I get? I am concerned about the falvor.


Brush the leaves with your fingers, then sniff. Take the ones
that smell especially good to you.

How about Bell peppers, Can I grow them in the same container with
herbs or tomatoes? How big they get, How big a container Ineed to grow
peppers?


It depends on the variety, some get bigger than others. Buran is
a nice container bell, it's on the small side, but very
productive. You could probably grow one of them in a gallon pot.
Lemon Drop peppers are a nice container chili pepper, but they'll
want a larger pot, probably at least 3 gallons.

And finally last question! I have got "Sweet 100" and "Early girl"
tomatoes so far. I want to get 2-3 more. What do you recommend? I am
looking for high yeild and long season bearing.


Consider Russian Silvery Fur Tree tomatoes. It works well in
containers, and produces lots and lots of medium/small tomatoes.
Plus the foliage is more ornamental than most tomatoes. Current
tomatoes are nice, too. I've grown them in hanging baskets
before.


Good Luck!

Penelope
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Old 13-03-2005, 06:24 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for your informative reply.

My apartment faces SouthEast and I have a balcony. It gets pretty good
sunlight and it's a good size but I can not fill it out all with
plants. I still need space for my Grill.

I finally got three tomato plants and I am going to plant them today in
18 Qt containers. they are "Sweet 100", "Early Girl" and "Celebrity".
These containers have 4 drainage hole in them, is it enough? or should
I drill more holes. should I put a layer of rocks at the bottom of the
container or just several pieces of rocks are enough?

I got two rectangular containers for strawberries. They are about 30"
by 6" , I don't think I get more than a few strawberries from them ,
but worth the taste. do strawberries need good drainage too? more than
the two preinstalled holes?

I want to plant the basil in the tomato containers, BUT , are they
going to be covered all by the tomatoes?

Thanks again.
Gardner Newbie.

Antipodean Bucket Farmer wrote:
In article
.com
, says...
Hi,

I am in Northern California and the weather is so beautiful so I
thought of growing some tomato and herbs in containers as I live in

an
apartment.



Be aware that tomatoes like lots of light and heat.


I went to nursery yesterday and there is so many different thymes?
which one should I get? I am concerned about the flavor.



Maybe just be patient, and try a few different types
over a period of time. That was how I settled on my
favourite lettuce (Buttercrunch.) I may very well just
keep doing different tomato varieties each year. Etc,
etc.


How about Bell peppers, Can I grow them in the same container with
herbs or tomatoes? How big they get, How big a container Ineed to

grow
peppers?



I strongly suggest planting them alone. I use 10-litre
(2 and a half gal) buckets for those. Maybe a foot and
a half tall for my largest one right now. BTW, I
suggest using a single bamboo stake next to the main
stem, and loosely tie the plant to it, for stability.


And finally last question! I have got "Sweet 100" and "Early girl"
tomatoes so far. I want to get 2-3 more. What do you recommend? I

am
looking for high yeild and long season bearing.



There might be more specific advice if you say exactly
how much total space you have for all the plants.
Another issue is your light - what direction is your
apartment facing? Do you have a balcony or other
outside area, or is everything indoors?

Also, patience is very important with any fruiting type
vegetable. Lettuce can yield fairly fast (maybe 10
weeks or so - I haven't kept track.) But things like
tomatoes, capsicums (bell peppers), cucumbers, etc,
take many months of care before you can start eating.
For example, my capsicums that I planted in September,
are still working on some small fruits, and similar-
aged tomato plants have had some ripe fruits, but most
are still green.


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Old 14-03-2005, 12:24 AM
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I think your containers are large enough, you won't get the amount of
tomatoes you can get growing in the ground but you'll get a few and
they'll be very good. I've had problems in the past of tomatoes
smothering anything else they share containers with. You might want
to plant your herbs in little 4-6" containers and set these on the
soil next to the tomatoes. Move the herbs around a bit so they don't
root into the tomato pot and as the tomatoes get bigger, they'll lean
in certain directions, simply move the herbs into better spots and
rotate your tomato plants while you're at it. I've never put rocks in
my container, but you might want to put mats under them to prevent
stains on your balcony. Also look around for tomato varieties
designed for container growing. You'll have to water frequently,
especially in hot weather.


"tomato lover" wrote in message roups.com...
Hi,

Thanks for your informative reply.

My apartment faces SouthEast and I have a balcony. It gets pretty good
sunlight and it's a good size but I can not fill it out all with
plants. I still need space for my Grill.

I finally got three tomato plants and I am going to plant them today in
18 Qt containers. they are "Sweet 100", "Early Girl" and "Celebrity".
These containers have 4 drainage hole in them, is it enough? or should
I drill more holes. should I put a layer of rocks at the bottom of the
container or just several pieces of rocks are enough?

I got two rectangular containers for strawberries. They are about 30"
by 6" , I don't think I get more than a few strawberries from them ,
but worth the taste. do strawberries need good drainage too? more than
the two preinstalled holes?

I want to plant the basil in the tomato containers, BUT , are they
going to be covered all by the tomatoes?

Thanks again.
Gardner Newbie.

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