AC/DCdude17 wrote:

I think you're just getting P'ed off at me for being honest.

More like annoyed with you for attacking someone who is providing
extremely good deals to fellow hobbyists.



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This was in response to your comment "Priority Mail shipping rules have
changed.
It's no longer $3 or $4 to anywhere
in the country. ". Priority has never been $3 or $4 nationwide without a
regard to
weight. It is only the case for 1lbs or less and it's implies that we're
talking
about 1lbs or less package.

You're wrong. Priority Mail used to be the same rate anywhere in the country.
And there used to be a "two pound pack" -- up to two pounds for one flat rate.
Over that, and it was more money, but it was the same rate for anywhere in the
U.S.

I mail a lot of packages, and have for years. I used to love Priority Mail.
It made things so easy. Just stick ten stamps on the package, and drop it in
the mail box. No need to go to the P.O. That was the whole point of Priority
Mail; it was supposed to spare you a trip to the P.O. and make it easier to
mail packages. That was ended by the Unibomber. Because of him, they changed
the rules so that if a package was over a pound, you had to go to the PO, just
to prove you weren't a terrorist. Then they started raising rates, and then
they got rid of the two-pound pack and started this "zone" pricing. Everything
that made Priority Mail great is gone.

If you already knew they're going to be more than a pound, why did you even
raise a
topic about shipping rate for 1lb?


Er...I didn't. You did.

Yeah, so let's charge them for maximum possible weight the package might be
and
coast-to-coast rate. oh what a wonderful idea.

Why should they lose money, when they're doing something out of the goodness of
their hearts?

If you've no idea how much it will cost to ship, what data do you use to
derive the
fixed shipping rate?

I have some idea. But I can't know the exact rate, and you're suggesting that
I charge the exact rate, no more, no less.

BS. Don't tell me each box weighs SIGNIFICANTLY different when it contains
very
similar item in similar packaging. If you figure out the weight ONCE, weight
of
subsequent package can be assumed.

It can. Because plants are packed in wet newspaper, the amount of water in
each package can be very different, and the weight thus very different. Sure,
I have an idea of how much the package will weigh, but not enough to tell if
it's going to cost $5 or $10.

I think you're just getting P'ed off at me for being honest.

Why should I be mad? I'm not the one who posted the message and earned your
ire. It's Dominic who should be P'ed off, if anyone is.

If the purpose is philanthropical, giving away something is part of it, but
shipping labor isn't included and requires monetary compensation in form of
handling?

No, but if you're getting something for free (or for much cheaper than you
could get from a merchant), then you shouldn't get bent out of shape if your
benefactor rounds up a few bucks, for the sake of convenience. He has a right
to make it as easy as possible for himself, and to not lose money on the deal.



Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

Seriously, don't let the complainers get you down on this. $8 S/H for
the number of plants you provide is an excellent deal, and most of us
here recognize that.


That's ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! I dont care if all $8 is 100% profit, it is STILL
a great deal.

~Mort

You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with delivery
confirmation.

Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
makes this NOT FREE.


Yeah, he's getting rich off the few bucks over the actual postage
cost. Yup, I bet that might pay a little bit of the fertilizers, CO2,
lighting, etc that grew the plants.

I'll be sure to put any of these whiners on my "f* off" list next time
I offer free (and/or cheap) plants.


Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

"Chuck Gadd" wrote in message
...
You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with
delivery
confirmation.

Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
makes this NOT FREE.


Yeah, he's getting rich off the few bucks over the actual postage
cost. Yup, I bet that might pay a little bit of the fertilizers, CO2,
lighting, etc that grew the plants.

I'll be sure to put any of these whiners on my "f* off" list next time
I offer free (and/or cheap) plants.


Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua



You tell 'em Chuck!

~Mort

You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with delivery
confirmation.

Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
makes this NOT FREE.


Yeah, he's getting rich off the few bucks over the actual postage
cost. Yup, I bet that might pay a little bit of the fertilizers, CO2,
lighting, etc that grew the plants.

I'll be sure to put any of these whiners on my "f* off" list next time
I offer free (and/or cheap) plants.


Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

"Chuck Gadd" wrote in message
...
You pay shipping and handling $8.00 including USPS Priority with
delivery
confirmation.

Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion, which
makes this NOT FREE.


Yeah, he's getting rich off the few bucks over the actual postage
cost. Yup, I bet that might pay a little bit of the fertilizers, CO2,
lighting, etc that grew the plants.

I'll be sure to put any of these whiners on my "f* off" list next time
I offer free (and/or cheap) plants.


Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua



You tell 'em Chuck!

~Mort

"Aqua" wrote in message ...
One batch gone and one more available.

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua



Do you still have second batch available ?

Thanks

Do you have any clippings left ?

Do you still have second batch available ?


This topic has gone in a different direction, so I was not able to post that
info. All of them gone on the same say.

Regards
Dominic

Are you guys really arguing about 8 bucks (a couple of big mac's) for a
great selection
of plants?

Talk about bottom sucking scum dwellers.

Geez.


"AC/DCdude17" wrote in message
...
X-No-Archive: Yes

LeighMo wrote:

Seems to me that you're making money off of the "handling" portion,
which
makes this NOT FREE.


Seems to me that this is NOT TRUE.

Priority Mail shipping rules have changed. It's no longer $3 or $4 to
anywhere
in the country.

I just looked at the chart.

Priority for 1 pound and below IS $3.85 NATIONWIDE(used to be $3.50). In
excess of
1lbs, the difference for different zone gets greater the heavier the
package. At
five pounds, local shipment is $5.85, coast to coast is $12.15

It costs more depending on distance. I'm in NY, and shipping
a box of plants to the south or to the West coast costs $8 or more more
(depending on weight).

I have done some transactions online and when people use fixed rate S&H,
there is
always a thought of profit in it and I don't think the word "free" is just
here.

People with real interest in charging nothing would say "you pay shipping
by xxx
method for xxx weight from zip code #####" + $## handling fee. And if
handling fee
significantly exceeds actual cost, it constitutes as profit.

Profit from overcharging shipping and imposing handling fee is a major
source of
revenue for a lot of eBayers and online retailers believe it or not.


I'm curious what the package weight for 12 plants is.

I'm arguing about misapplication of the term "free".

That's all. I don't care who's profiting or whether they're or not.

AC/DC dude,
You know, there are so many ruined newsgroups and forums on the internet, due
in part to crap like you posted about the plants. How about giving "petty"
nonsense like arguing over whether or not a kind hearted soul who wants to
share is actually making $1.00 or not a rest, eh? Your comments on this issue
at best should have been reserved for email, since you felt compelled to
complain. I was saddened to see what you wrote, and I hope you think twice next
time. Better yet, you collect a bunch of your aquatic plants, prepare them for
shipping, get the bubble wrap, peanuts, container, zip lock, and priority
shipping materials, trim your plants, take an hour to prepare and box them,
drive them to the post office, wait in line, then see if your "free" complain
had any warrant at all. Then find out that you even lost a dollar or two,
because shipping ended up being even more than what you "guesstimated" when you
offered the plants up for free!
Think about it, or even better, share with someone some time, it will make you
feel better
Jen

LOL i Like her style

I'm arguing about misapplication of the term "free".

Some morons just can't help but try and ruin someone else's good thing... it
usually boils down to jealousy, or ignorance.... in this case, could be
both....

after my recent "free" purchase from Chuck Gadd, I'm gonna spread as much of
my money to fellow hobbyists who are better growers than I, and I can't wait
until this moron speaks up and comments, let alone asks to purchase some....
I think his rude comments will resonate thru this group, and we'll remember
his banter like nails across a chalkboard.... he'll not get anything from
me...

"RedForeman" wrote:

Some morons just can't help but try and ruin someone else's good thing... it
usually boils down to jealousy, or ignorance.... in this case, could be
both....

Another potential clue of an attitude problem is the presence of the
directive "X-No-Archive: Yes". I'm automatically suspicious of people
who don't want their posts to be archived. I'm not always correct in
my suspicion, but most of the time it works.

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