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solenoid
ok, i have done all my research and have now figured out that I can set up a
pressurized Co2 system pretty cheap by jsut getting a dual guage reg from a beer supply, etc... the only difference I can really see between the JBJ and this is that the JBJ comes with the solenoid. Do I need that solenoid??? What options do I have if I dont have a solenoid... do you just run an airline with air stone into the tank at night??? or is it just better to get it with the solenoid...??? all comments greatly appricated - thnax, Josh |
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solenoid
aquaticeco.com has a CO2 regulator and solenoid for a combined price
of $69. Thats a pretty good price! I just came across it a few days ago. Part# is AZ19002 "Josh" wrote in message news ok, i have done all my research and have now figured out that I can set up a pressurized Co2 system pretty cheap by jsut getting a dual guage reg from a beer supply, etc... the only difference I can really see between the JBJ and this is that the JBJ comes with the solenoid. Do I need that solenoid??? What options do I have if I dont have a solenoid... do you just run an airline with air stone into the tank at night??? or is it just better to get it with the solenoid...??? all comments greatly appricated - thnax, Josh |
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We have the ones with regulator, bubble counter and solenoid fo 75
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:58:32 GMT, "Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote: aquaticeco.com has a CO2 regulator and solenoid for a combined price of $69. Thats a pretty good price! I just came across it a few days ago. Part# is AZ19002 "Josh" wrote in message news ok, i have done all my research and have now figured out that I can set up a pressurized Co2 system pretty cheap by jsut getting a dual guage reg from a beer supply, etc... the only difference I can really see between the JBJ and this is that the JBJ comes with the solenoid. Do I need that solenoid??? What options do I have if I dont have a solenoid... do you just run an airline with air stone into the tank at night??? or is it just better to get it with the solenoid...??? all comments greatly appricated - thnax, Josh Marcus http://www.aquatic-store.com/ Co2 tanks on sale Eheim 2026 $143 Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75 WEBBOARD http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php |
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solenoid
Really?! I got to go check that out.
"AQUATIC-STORE.COM" sales a@t aquatic-store.com wrote in message ... We have the ones with regulator, bubble counter and solenoid fo 75 On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:58:32 GMT, "Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote: aquaticeco.com has a CO2 regulator and solenoid for a combined price of $69. Thats a pretty good price! I just came across it a few days ago. Part# is AZ19002 "Josh" wrote in message news ok, i have done all my research and have now figured out that I can set up a pressurized Co2 system pretty cheap by jsut getting a dual guage reg from a beer supply, etc... the only difference I can really see between the JBJ and this is that the JBJ comes with the solenoid. Do I need that solenoid??? What options do I have if I dont have a solenoid... do you just run an airline with air stone into the tank at night??? or is it just better to get it with the solenoid...??? all comments greatly appricated - thnax, Josh Marcus http://www.aquatic-store.com/ Co2 tanks on sale Eheim 2026 $143 Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75 WEBBOARD http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php |
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solenoid
I bought a redhat solenoid from eBay for only $5 but ended taking it
off in the long run. I use a power reactor and have that connected to my light timer, the CO2 is on 24/7 but it's no big deal seeing it's cheap to refill and lasts a long time. I also bought my tank and regulator from eBay ($35) but my local fire extinguisher company who refills it for me also had some really good deals on used tanks and regulators. I used the Clippard needle valve to regulate the CO2, not the best in fine adjustment but it works and so far it has held a steady rate, just needs a little fiddling around with at first to get the bubble rate you are looking for. The main reason for removing the solenoid was to eliminate some cables under the tank and at the same time I wasn't thrilled about the heat it generated (even though the heat probably helps dissolve the CO2 better). If you plan on using a PH controller then it's a must, otherwise you can always put your reactor on a timer and save some money. Hope that helps Giancarlo Podio |
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Ghori contaCT ME VIA EMAIL, MAYBE WE CAN WORK OUT AN EVEN BETTER
PRICE! Marcus http://www.aquatic-store.com/ Co2 tanks on sale Eheim 2026 $143 Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75 WEBBOARD http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php |
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(even though the
heat probably helps dissolve the CO2 better). Seems right at first: But no, the colder the water, the more gas it is able to hold in solution at equilibrium. Colder water has more O and CO2 or any atomspheric gas everything else being equal. If you plan on using a PH controller then it's a must, otherwise you can always put your reactor on a timer and save some money. Hope that helps Giancarlo Podio You can use a powerhead to run the system and use a controller with that instead of a solenoid. The gas will burp out and be wasted is all. Solenoid's main usage for practical matters in planted tanks seems best suited for larger tanks/multiple tank set ups to save the CO2 gas in the bottle. Still, planted tanks use CO2 to supply the plants with ample CO2, pH controllers do not maintain any better control in every planted tank I have seen or had vs a needle valve and no control(24-7) and what happens at night doesn't matter much as far as the plants are concerned. They just want CO2 when the lights are on. Hydroponic places sell them and ebay etc. 40$ or less is a decent price for a nice new one. I'm thinking about one for my multiple tank set up but it'll take about 6 years to make my $ back in gas savings provided the solenoid last that long. Regards, Tom Barr |
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"Josh" wrote in message ...
ok, i have done all my research and have now figured out that I can set up a pressurized Co2 system pretty cheap by jsut getting a dual guage reg from a beer supply, etc... the only difference I can really see between the JBJ and this is that the JBJ comes with the solenoid. Do I need that solenoid??? What options do I have if I dont have a solenoid... do you just run an airline with air stone into the tank at night??? or is it just better to get it with the solenoid...??? all comments greatly appricated - thnax, Josh The JBJ regulator has a fixed working pressure, so there is nothing to ajust as far as pressure. Besides a solenoid, it also has a needle valve and a bubble counter. The milwaukee regulator also has a solenoid, bubblecounter, and needle valve, but its not a fixed working pressure. Robert Hudson www.aquabotanic.com |
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