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Apple tree advice needed
I have this huge old apple tree in my yard. Here are some pictures:
This is a pic of the top of one of the branches. Notice missing bark and cracks: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3743.jpg http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3744.jpg Trunk: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3745.jpg http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3746.jpg Entire tree: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3750.jpg The pics may not really give a good indication of the tree's overall health. The leaves are warped, curled slightly. No new growth. Apples look good, so far. Some of the branches have missing bark and cracks. I'm not sure how healthy it is or how long it will live. What can be done to maintain and improve the health of an old tree like this? |
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Apple tree advice needed
Matthew Reed wrote:
I have this huge old apple tree in my yard. Here are some pictures: This is a pic of the top of one of the branches. Notice missing bark and cracks: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3743.jpg http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3744.jpg Trunk: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3745.jpg http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3746.jpg Entire tree: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3750.jpg The pics may not really give a good indication of the tree's overall health. The leaves are warped, curled slightly. No new growth. Apples look good, so far. Some of the branches have missing bark and cracks. I'm not sure how healthy it is or how long it will live. What can be done to maintain and improve the health of an old tree like this? Looks like every other really old apple tree I've ever seen. Do you fertilize it, or prune it properly, does it get adequate water? Those are things you can do yourself with some self-study. Call your state ag agent, should be one in your county, and ask for some help in determining the health and well-being of your great old tree. The ag agents are paid with your tax dollars and generally, or so I've found, are willing to give you advice. Wish I had the tree but apples don't grow well in SW Louisiana. HTH George |
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Apple tree advice needed
My overall opinion based on the pictures is that there is nothing seriously
wrong with this tree. I get curled leaves on some of my dwarf apple trees, and although unsightly, doesn't seem to be a danger to them. To improve it's health, you may want to do some pruning to open up the tree, although with a tree this big, it won't be easy and possibly not safe for you to do yourself. You might try and cut off any dead branches, as well. Also, keep it from drying out during any drought periods. That's pretty much all you can do as long as the tree has no diseases or insect infestation. Sherwin D. Matthew Reed wrote: I have this huge old apple tree in my yard. Here are some pictures: This is a pic of the top of one of the branches. Notice missing bark and cracks: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3743.jpg http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3744.jpg Trunk: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3745.jpg http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3746.jpg Entire tree: http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/2006%...s/DSCF3750.jpg The pics may not really give a good indication of the tree's overall health. The leaves are warped, curled slightly. No new growth. Apples look good, so far. Some of the branches have missing bark and cracks. I'm not sure how healthy it is or how long it will live. What can be done to maintain and improve the health of an old tree like this? |
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Apple tree advice needed
Looks like every other really old apple tree I've ever seen. Do you fertilize it, or prune it properly, does it get adequate water? Those are things you can do yourself with some self-study. Call your state ag agent, should be one in your county, and ask for some help in determining the health and well-being of your great old tree. The ag agents are paid with your tax dollars and generally, or so I've found, are willing to give you advice. Wish I had the tree but apples don't grow well in SW Louisiana. HTH George Ah, good advice from both of you. Should I not worry about the cracked branch missing bark? How about pruning? There are hundreds of little vertical suckers sticking up all over the top of the tree, should I cut all or some of them off? I will see about the aggy agent, might be of some help. How would I go about fertilizing it? Also, I'm not sure how to water it. In the spring the water table is only 9 feet deep. In summer I think it drops to 18 feet or maybe deeper. I'm not sure how deep the tree roots go. |
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Apple tree advice needed
Matthew Reed wrote:Ah, good advice from both of you. Should I not worry about the cracked branch missing bark? If the leaves extending from the crack look ok, leave it alone. How about pruning? There are hundreds of little vertical suckers sticking up all over the top of the tree, should I cut all or some of them off? You can cut off all the suckers, preferably while the tree is dormant in early Spring. Certainly remove any dead branches. You can also cut off one of every branch that crosses closely to another. Cut off branches that grow inwards towards the trunk. That should do it. I will see about the aggy agent, might be of some help. How would I go about fertilizing it? You can spread mulch around the drip line and/or mix in some composted manure. Also, I'm not sure how to water it. In the spring the water table is only 9 feet deep. In summer I think it drops to 18 feet or maybe deeper. I'm not sure how deep the tree roots go. Apple trees do not send out deep roots and tend to stay near to the surface. Test the soil about 6 inches or so deep for signs of moisture. If necessary, deep water the tree about once a week. Sherwin D. |
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Apple tree advice needed
snip excellent advice from several people
Ahh...much more good advice, but it does bring up one more question. This tree once sprawled with very long branches. The guy that had the property before me butchered it back, and now it have these very thick 12" or so branches that leave the main trunk and go about 15 feet or more, and stop because he cut them all off. From these is a lot of new growth sprawling all over. I should take som pics of inside the canopy so you can see what I'm describing. Also, two main branches that are over 12" thick all but cross each other. I could cut one off, but it's quite large and would leave a big scar - again let me see if I can get some pics so this makes more sense. The challenge here is that this is a big tree and the branches themselves as they branch from the main trunk are over very thick. I think the main trunk itself is easily 36" diameter. Hmm...tomorrow I'll measure it and take pics and post links to them here so you can see what I'm describing. It's a big beautiful tree, and I'm willing to invest some time and effort to save it. It gives a lot of shade, and there is a rope swing on one of the branches that my girls love (should this be removed so it doesn't damage the limb any more then it has?). |
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Apple tree advice needed
Matthew Reed wrote: snip excellent advice from several people Ahh...much more good advice, but it does bring up one more question. This tree once sprawled with very long branches. The guy that had the property before me butchered it back, and now it have these very thick 12" or so branches that leave the main trunk and go about 15 feet or more, and stop because he cut them all off. From these is a lot of new growth sprawling all over. I should take som pics of inside the canopy so you can see what I'm describing. Aside from not looking very nice, I don't think this stubby growth pattern seems to have damaged the tree. You could encourage these branches to grow a new 'leader' by pruning off the smaller branches and selecting the biggest and strongest for that purpose. Also, two main branches that are over 12" thick all but cross each other. I could cut one off, but it's quite large and would leave a big scar - again let me see if I can get some pics so this makes more sense. I think it might be too late to fix that problem. Cutting off such a large branch could do more harm than good. The challenge here is that this is a big tree and the branches themselves as they branch from the main trunk are over very thick. I think the main trunk itself is easily 36" diameter. Hmm...tomorrow I'll measure it and take pics and post links to them here so you can see what I'm describing. If the branches are growning too tightly together, you could cut some of them off, especially the ones growing towards the center of the tree. Don't take off too much wood in one season. Check the web for info on how to prune to decide where to make your cuts, and in what fashion. It's a big beautiful tree, and I'm willing to invest some time and effort to save it. It gives a lot of shade, and there is a rope swing on one of the branches that my girls love (should this be removed so it doesn't damage the limb any more then it has?). Keep an eye on the attachment points that they are not cutting through the bark. You may want to add some padding at the attachement points to distribute the load. Sherwin |
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Apple tree advice needed
Matthew,
I'm no expert, but do have one old ancient tree like this and have transplanted about 95 11-15yo trees from an orchard that was closing down and only had one DOA out of the bunch. A tree as old as yours is bound to have some battle scars but I didn't see anything in the pictures that run up a caution flag. Overall it looks pretty healthy. As was mentioned in another post, I would take the time once it is dormant to open up the center canopy a bit. I spent a good bit of time on-line and talking with local experts and here is what I do. snip Any guesses as to the age of the tree? The trunk is about 36 inches in diameter - big. I chopped down a tree half it's size that had about 70 or so rings. I had to cut it down because one of the two main trunks had rotted 2/3 of the way through, and it was dangerous. Hated to do it, poor thing |
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