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Well, health reasons have now made it insane for me to ever stick
another piece my body into the dirt or get any of it anywhere on my
body.

I was hospitalized for the third time the day after gardening, weeding
actually. I am very sick, have very low white blood count and red is
also very low for which I shoot Procrit. I had a shot of Nupigen to
increase my bone marrow production of white blood cells.

Now, when I go anywhere I have to bring alcohol cloths and wipe the
shopping cart off, and apply hand sanitizer after being in public
places. Flying may also be risky.

I have stage four cirrhosis, children's class A. The Interferon seems
to be working, but I have trouble doing everything. It's rough
treatment.

I suppose the point is, I actually paid people to come in and weed for
me. I'm fortunate to have the money, but it was never about that
anyway. I feel sad, but I do believe gardening days are over for me.

V
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Jangchub wrote:

Well, health reasons have now made it insane for me to ever stick
another piece my body into the dirt or get any of it anywhere on my
body.

I was hospitalized for the third time the day after gardening, weeding
actually. I am very sick, have very low white blood count.........
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It's time to have a greenhouse built and a hydroponic system put in!

Steve
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:46:14 +0100, Janet Baraclough
Never! Adapt your gardening to what's possible and safe in changed
circumstances, but don't give it all up. What could you do in raised
containers, with soft-surface plants like succulents herbs and salad
veg,, and good disposable gloves?

Surely it would be simple and effective to wear cotton washable gloves
for shopping trips. I met someone who does this *every* time she steps
outside her own home (because of similar health concerns) . Her
pristine little gloves are co-ordinated to every outfit along with the
ear-rings and makeup.. She has multiple pairs to change, launder and
re-use.

A product you might find useful btw is "invisible glove", lots of
brands available but I use Dermasand. It's applied *before* any
potentially unhygeinic contact. You just smooth it on to form an
anti-bacterial skin-barrier on the hands which lasts until you wash it
off (used by many masseurs). In the UK , pharmacies stock it to the
public.

Janet.


All very good advice. I will have to see how my labs turn out this
week before I do anything. A few years ago I had breast reduction
surgery in February. That May I spent nine days in the hospital, they
operated to remove the infection and guess what it was that got in
there. Yes, actinomycete! The soil in my yard is apparantly like a
Stephen King book! The soil wants me.

It took them so long to get me off antibiotics, amoxycillin for six
months.

Then there was the time in 94 most will remember I tripped over my
late dog Ozzy and stepped right onto a cultivator and it scratched the
bone in my left foot. I was in the hospital for 6 weeks, daily
sterile whirlpool, wound care for almost 18 months and that infection
also came from barnyard animal manures and it turned out it was called
Mycobacterium abesses chealonea (spelling may be wrong) and I was the
53 person in the US to be diagnosed with it. I'm in medical books!

After the property is really weeded proper, I'm going to call in a
landscape architect and have some decks built for container gardening
and also incorporate an aviary for my little parrot, Mikabird.

Once it's all under control I may garden. I always did say that Mark
should drag me out an my belly and put a trowel in my hand and I want
to die gardening. I just don't waqnt to die at 50!

V

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"Jangchub" wrote in message
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Well, health reasons have now made it insane for me to ever stick
another piece my body into the dirt or get any of it anywhere on my
body.

I was hospitalized for the third time the day after gardening, weeding
actually. I am very sick, have very low white blood count and red is
also very low for which I shoot Procrit. I had a shot of Nupigen to
increase my bone marrow production of white blood cells.

Now, when I go anywhere I have to bring alcohol cloths and wipe the
shopping cart off, and apply hand sanitizer after being in public
places. Flying may also be risky.

I have stage four cirrhosis, children's class A. The Interferon seems
to be working, but I have trouble doing everything. It's rough
treatment.

I suppose the point is, I actually paid people to come in and weed for
me. I'm fortunate to have the money, but it was never about that
anyway. I feel sad, but I do believe gardening days are over for me.


Victoria, I had wondered how you were doing. I'm so sorry to hear that
there is no more gardening for you, but if you have someone weed for you
hopefully you can still look at your beautiful garden.

Please take care, and I'll be thinking of you.

Callen in VA


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"Callen Molenda" wrote:

"Jangchub" wrote in message
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Well, health reasons have now made it insane for me to ever stick
another piece my body into the dirt or get any of it anywhere on my
body.

I was hospitalized for the third time the day after gardening, weeding
actually. I am very sick, have very low white blood count and red is
also very low for which I shoot Procrit. I had a shot of Nupigen to
increase my bone marrow production of white blood cells.

Now, when I go anywhere I have to bring alcohol cloths and wipe the
shopping cart off, and apply hand sanitizer after being in public
places. Flying may also be risky.

I have stage four cirrhosis, children's class A. The Interferon seems
to be working, but I have trouble doing everything. It's rough
treatment.

I suppose the point is, I actually paid people to come in and weed for
me. I'm fortunate to have the money, but it was never about that
anyway. I feel sad, but I do believe gardening days are over for me.


Victoria, I had wondered how you were doing. I'm so sorry to hear that
there is no more gardening for you, but if you have someone weed for you
hopefully you can still look at your beautiful garden.

Please take care, and I'll be thinking of you.

Callen in VA


Perhaps a small Japanese Garden? About 10 feet by 10 feet. Set to
take advantage of borrowed scenery. Shrink the 10 X 10 by including a
water sculpture. Have a Koi or two. Landscape with a small pine and
perhaps a lily. Minimal planting maximum design. Use weed guard and
hire a contractor for initial setup. But design it oneself. Very
important.

Best!

Bill

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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:20:34 -0400, "Callen Molenda"
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Victoria, I had wondered how you were doing. I'm so sorry to hear that
there is no more gardening for you, but if you have someone weed for you
hopefully you can still look at your beautiful garden.

Please take care, and I'll be thinking of you.

Callen in VA


Thank you Callen. I hate to be morose, but sometimes I think I am
simply not going to have a long life. Not this time around. If
treatment doesn't work, I will need a liver transplant.

Buddhism has been the one constant in my life beside my darling
husband and my Lama's. I guess I'm a bit depressed and this will
pass.

The garden look so much better after they weeded, but they worked
eight hours and only did PART of the back! I have half acre, all
cultivated beds. LOL
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:02:46 -0400, William Wagner
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Perhaps a small Japanese Garden? About 10 feet by 10 feet. Set to
take advantage of borrowed scenery. Shrink the 10 X 10 by including a
water sculpture. Have a Koi or two. Landscape with a small pine and
perhaps a lily. Minimal planting maximum design. Use weed guard and
hire a contractor for initial setup. But design it oneself. Very
important.

Best!

Bill


Yes, once all weeding is done and trash trees are gone (boy can birds
plant those things everywhere) I will call in a landscape architect
and tell him/her what I want. I didn't know it, but one of those
trees which just showed up is a fig! At least they're not all trash!
NO GRASS and wood decks, or composit wood is also fab. I can do
container gardening on the decks.

I still collect brugmansia's and datura's so those are all in huge 30
gallon containers.
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Jangchub wrote:
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:20:34 -0400, "Callen Molenda"
wrote:


Victoria, I had wondered how you were doing. I'm so sorry to hear that
there is no more gardening for you, but if you have someone weed for you
hopefully you can still look at your beautiful garden.

Please take care, and I'll be thinking of you.

Callen in VA


Thank you Callen. I hate to be morose, but sometimes I think I am
simply not going to have a long life. Not this time around. If
treatment doesn't work, I will need a liver transplant.

Buddhism has been the one constant in my life beside my darling
husband and my Lama's. I guess I'm a bit depressed and this will
pass.

The garden look so much better after they weeded, but they worked
eight hours and only did PART of the back! I have half acre, all
cultivated beds. LOL



ahhhhhh Vinnie.......how I worried about you. Poor sugar.. Well you've
had the blessing to have someone like your husband who has been
incredible. Maybe with the idea's that your gardening buddies have
passed on to you and some tweeking for some raised and container
gardens, you can continue onwards. I know the composite decking is good
stuff. Son extended my nook deck a titch with it and I adore it. No
splinters, easy to clean (if I did) lasts for 75 years... My love and
thoughts are with you honey. Keep in touch as you're able. I've been
absent this whole season and only recently posted myself. Not that I've
not been inspired by the overly weedy Fairy Holler, just caught up in
insane stuff....

my love and thoughts Vinnie. (((huge cyber hug))))
maddie
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Best of luck to you.

I'm sure you are aware of the variety of long-handled tools that are
available for pulling weeds, digging holes, cultivating, etc. There's
a good list of such tools available online at the Ergonica World of
Weeds website.

All plants want to grow and blossom. That's their mission in life. It
seems that our human destiny is to cultivate, consume and contain the
green world around us.

Gardening is good for you.



Jangchub wrote:
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:02:46 -0400, William Wagner
wrote:

Perhaps a small Japanese Garden? About 10 feet by 10 feet. Set to
take advantage of borrowed scenery. Shrink the 10 X 10 by including a
water sculpture. Have a Koi or two. Landscape with a small pine and
perhaps a lily. Minimal planting maximum design. Use weed guard and
hire a contractor for initial setup. But design it oneself. Very
important.

Best!

Bill


Yes, once all weeding is done and trash trees are gone (boy can birds
plant those things everywhere) I will call in a landscape architect
and tell him/her what I want. I didn't know it, but one of those
trees which just showed up is a fig! At least they're not all trash!
NO GRASS and wood decks, or composit wood is also fab. I can do
container gardening on the decks.

I still collect brugmansia's and datura's so those are all in huge 30
gallon containers.


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"Jangchub" wrote in message
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Well, health reasons have now made it insane for me to ever stick
another piece my body into the dirt or get any of it anywhere on my
body.

I was hospitalized for the third time the day after gardening, weeding
actually. I am very sick, have very low white blood count and red is
also very low for which I shoot Procrit. I had a shot of Nupigen to
increase my bone marrow production of white blood cells.

Now, when I go anywhere I have to bring alcohol cloths and wipe the
shopping cart off, and apply hand sanitizer after being in public
places. Flying may also be risky.

I have stage four cirrhosis, children's class A. The Interferon seems
to be working, but I have trouble doing everything. It's rough
treatment.

I suppose the point is, I actually paid people to come in and weed for
me. I'm fortunate to have the money, but it was never about that
anyway. I feel sad, but I do believe gardening days are over for me.

V





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So so sorry to hear this V
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"Jangchub" wrote in message
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Well, health reasons have now made it insane for me to ever stick
another piece my body into the dirt or get any of it anywhere on my
body.

I was hospitalized for the third time the day after gardening, weeding
actually. I am very sick, have very low white blood count and red is
also very low for which I shoot Procrit. I had a shot of Nupigen to
increase my bone marrow production of white blood cells.

Now, when I go anywhere I have to bring alcohol cloths and wipe the
shopping cart off, and apply hand sanitizer after being in public
places. Flying may also be risky.

I have stage four cirrhosis, children's class A. The Interferon seems
to be working, but I have trouble doing everything. It's rough
treatment.

I suppose the point is, I actually paid people to come in and weed for
me. I'm fortunate to have the money, but it was never about that
anyway. I feel sad, but I do believe gardening days are over for me.

V





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Get you a copy of "Square Foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholamew(sic). People in
wheelchairs use this form of gardening. It's great.


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So so sorry to hear this V
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"Jangchub" wrote in message
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Well, health reasons have now made it insane for me to ever stick
another piece my body into the dirt or get any of it anywhere on my
body.

I was hospitalized for the third time the day after gardening, weeding
actually. I am very sick, have very low white blood count and red is
also very low for which I shoot Procrit. I had a shot of Nupigen to
increase my bone marrow production of white blood cells.

Now, when I go anywhere I have to bring alcohol cloths and wipe the
shopping cart off, and apply hand sanitizer after being in public
places. Flying may also be risky.

I have stage four cirrhosis, children's class A. The Interferon seems
to be working, but I have trouble doing everything. It's rough
treatment.

I suppose the point is, I actually paid people to come in and weed for
me. I'm fortunate to have the money, but it was never about that
anyway. I feel sad, but I do believe gardening days are over for me.

V







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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:08:47 -0400, madgardener
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ahhhhhh Vinnie.......how I worried about you. Poor sugar.. Well you've
had the blessing to have someone like your husband who has been
incredible. Maybe with the idea's that your gardening buddies have
passed on to you and some tweeking for some raised and container
gardens, you can continue onwards. I know the composite decking is good
stuff. Son extended my nook deck a titch with it and I adore it. No
splinters, easy to clean (if I did) lasts for 75 years... My love and
thoughts are with you honey. Keep in touch as you're able. I've been
absent this whole season and only recently posted myself. Not that I've
not been inspired by the overly weedy Fairy Holler, just caught up in
insane stuff....

my love and thoughts Vinnie. (((huge cyber hug))))
maddie


As always, you are a dear. And I will take that hug!

love you back,
V
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:11:51 GMT, "J.C." wrote:

Get you a copy of "Square Foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholamew(sic). People in
wheelchairs use this form of gardening. It's great.


Physically I can do the gardening, it's my immune system which seems
to suck up any massive infection that lives anywhere! One time I had
a PIC line directly into my heart and I infused with antibiotics 12
hours a day! And the WORST kind, Vancomyacin and Primaxin.
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:11:51 GMT, "J.C." wrote:

Get you a copy of "Square Foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholamew(sic). People
in
wheelchairs use this form of gardening. It's great.


Physically I can do the gardening, it's my immune system which seems
to suck up any massive infection that lives anywhere! One time I had
a PIC line directly into my heart and I infused with antibiotics 12
hours a day! And the WORST kind, Vancomyacin and Primaxin.


Hmm, sorry to hear that. I wish you well.

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