Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com



You have a conflicting pair of ideas in what you wrote. First, you said
"garden soil prices", which suggests that ALL garden soil has increased in
price. Then, you mentioned "black gold", which sounds like a brand name.
Matter of fact, it *is* a brand name. I wonder if other brands have NOT
increased in price and had their packages made smaller.

It might be worthwhile to hire a private detective for a day, to assist you
in finding stores which sell a different brand.

On Mar 29, 10:47 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Harold" wrote in message

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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

You have a conflicting pair of ideas in what you wrote. First, you said
"garden soil prices", which suggests that ALL garden soil has increased in
price. Then, you mentioned "black gold", which sounds like a brand name.
Matter of fact, it *is* a brand name. I wonder if other brands have NOT
increased in price and had their packages made smaller.

It might be worthwhile to hire a private detective for a day, to assist you
in finding stores which sell a different brand.

Thanks for your comments. I went to three mass merchandisers and the
prices have all increased. The phrase "black gold" came from the mouth
of a guy on TV describing the process of taking waste building
material and making it into compost. Last season I was able to buy one
cubic yard of soil for $24.00 but this year the prevailing price is
$48.00 for the same amount of stuff. I would say that such an increase
is quite significant and troubling.
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in
one hand, Starbucks in the other, totally worn out and
screaming,

"WOO HOO what a ride!"

BetsyB



"Harold" wrote in message
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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com


I am retired Teamster and know that rising gas/fuel prices control the
prices of everything we buy. Most are truck delivered.

Betsy

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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

You have a conflicting pair of ideas in what you wrote. First, you said
"garden soil prices", which suggests that ALL garden soil has increased
in
price. Then, you mentioned "black gold", which sounds like a brand name.
Matter of fact, it *is* a brand name. I wonder if other brands have NOT
increased in price and had their packages made smaller.

It might be worthwhile to hire a private detective for a day, to assist
you
in finding stores which sell a different brand.

Thanks for your comments. I went to three mass merchandisers and the
prices have all increased. The phrase "black gold" came from the mouth
of a guy on TV describing the process of taking waste building
material and making it into compost. Last season I was able to buy one
cubic yard of soil for $24.00 but this year the prevailing price is
$48.00 for the same amount of stuff. I would say that such an increase
is quite significant and troubling.
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com



It sounds like a weird product, so I don't know why you'd buy it to begin
with. And, the main thing contributing to the price increases you've
mentioned is the cost of fuel for vehicles which deliver pretty much
everything. My company ships product by truck, and the per mile rate is up
drastically over the past 18 months.

On Mar 29, 1:27 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Harold" wrote in message

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On Mar 29, 10:47 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Harold" wrote in message

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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

You have a conflicting pair of ideas in what you wrote. First, you said
"garden soil prices", which suggests that ALL garden soil has increased
in
price. Then, you mentioned "black gold", which sounds like a brand name.
Matter of fact, it *is* a brand name. I wonder if other brands have NOT
increased in price and had their packages made smaller.

It might be worthwhile to hire a private detective for a day, to assist
you
in finding stores which sell a different brand.

Thanks for your comments. I went to three mass merchandisers and the
prices have all increased. The phrase "black gold" came from the mouth
of a guy on TV describing the process of taking waste building
material and making it into compost. Last season I was able to buy one
cubic yard of soil for $24.00 but this year the prevailing price is
$48.00 for the same amount of stuff. I would say that such an increase
is quite significant and troubling.
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

It sounds like a weird product, so I don't know why you'd buy it to begin
with. And, the main thing contributing to the price increases you've
mentioned is the cost of fuel for vehicles which deliver pretty much
everything. My company ships product by truck, and the per mile rate is up
drastically over the past 18 months.

My only alternative is to buy it by the truck load which would give me
more than I can use and don't care to have a big pile of dirt in my
yard.

"Harold" wrote in message
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On Mar 29, 1:27 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Mar 29, 10:47 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Harold" wrote in message

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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into
consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price
when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

You have a conflicting pair of ideas in what you wrote. First, you
said
"garden soil prices", which suggests that ALL garden soil has
increased
in
price. Then, you mentioned "black gold", which sounds like a brand
name.
Matter of fact, it *is* a brand name. I wonder if other brands have
NOT
increased in price and had their packages made smaller.

It might be worthwhile to hire a private detective for a day, to
assist
you
in finding stores which sell a different brand.

Thanks for your comments. I went to three mass merchandisers and the
prices have all increased. The phrase "black gold" came from the mouth
of a guy on TV describing the process of taking waste building
material and making it into compost. Last season I was able to buy one
cubic yard of soil for $24.00 but this year the prevailing price is
$48.00 for the same amount of stuff. I would say that such an increase
is quite significant and troubling.
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

It sounds like a weird product, so I don't know why you'd buy it to begin
with. And, the main thing contributing to the price increases you've
mentioned is the cost of fuel for vehicles which deliver pretty much
everything. My company ships product by truck, and the per mile rate is
up
drastically over the past 18 months.

My only alternative is to buy it by the truck load which would give me
more than I can use and don't care to have a big pile of dirt in my
yard.



With every response, this gets more interesting. In the beginning, you
referred to bagged soil. Are you saying that where you live, there is no
source of a different brand of bagged soil? There are NO other sources of
BAGGED soil?

AND - this black gold stuff may contain lead and all sorts of other crap.
Were you planning on using it to grow things you plan to eat?

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Harold" wrote in message
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On Mar 29, 1:27 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Mar 29, 10:47 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Harold" wrote in message

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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into
consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price
when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

You have a conflicting pair of ideas in what you wrote. First, you
said
"garden soil prices", which suggests that ALL garden soil has
increased
in
price. Then, you mentioned "black gold", which sounds like a brand
name.
Matter of fact, it *is* a brand name. I wonder if other brands have
NOT
increased in price and had their packages made smaller.

It might be worthwhile to hire a private detective for a day, to
assist
you
in finding stores which sell a different brand.

Thanks for your comments. I went to three mass merchandisers and the
prices have all increased. The phrase "black gold" came from the mouth
of a guy on TV describing the process of taking waste building
material and making it into compost. Last season I was able to buy one
cubic yard of soil for $24.00 but this year the prevailing price is
$48.00 for the same amount of stuff. I would say that such an increase
is quite significant and troubling.
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

It sounds like a weird product, so I don't know why you'd buy it to begin
with. And, the main thing contributing to the price increases you've
mentioned is the cost of fuel for vehicles which deliver pretty much
everything. My company ships product by truck, and the per mile rate is
up
drastically over the past 18 months.

My only alternative is to buy it by the truck load which would give me
more than I can use and don't care to have a big pile of dirt in my
yard.



With every response, this gets more interesting. In the beginning, you
referred to bagged soil. Are you saying that where you live, there is no
source of a different brand of bagged soil? There are NO other sources of
BAGGED soil?

AND - this black gold stuff may contain lead and all sorts of other crap.
Were you planning on using it to grow things you plan to eat?

Harold may live under a bridge.

Bill

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On 29 Mar 2007 08:53:30 -0700, "Harold" wrote:

Thanks for your comments. I went to three mass merchandisers and the
prices have all increased. The phrase "black gold" came from the mouth
of a guy on TV describing the process of taking waste building
material and making it into compost. Last season I was able to buy one
cubic yard of soil for $24.00 but this year the prevailing price is
$48.00 for the same amount of stuff. I would say that such an increase
is quite significant and troubling.
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

Yeah, and in case you didn't notice, that soil is delivered by rigs
and gas is now almost $3.00 a gallon. So, that is one of the big
reasons why everything has gone up.

On 29 Mar 2007 11:31:11 -0700, Harold wrote:
My only alternative is to buy it by the truck load which would give me
more than I can use and don't care to have a big pile of dirt in my
yard.

So talk to the neighbors, and split a truckload. Or topdress your lawn
with the remainder. I've ordered half-truckloads before, too... if
you don't care about exact delivery time, one of the local compost suppliers
just waits till someone else wants a half load and delivers half to you
and half to the other person. Or it may be cheaper to get an entire load
and offer the remains on freecycle.

You might also want to add some mineral elements to your raised bed soils,
if you haven't already -- decreases the "shrinkage" of soil over the year,
buffers the soil pH, adds cation exchange capacity, improves drainage and
texture...

Kay

We ought to go back to using trains!

Sherwin D.

betsyb wrote:

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in
one hand, Starbucks in the other, totally worn out and
screaming,

"WOO HOO what a ride!"

BetsyB

"Harold" wrote in message
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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com


I am retired Teamster and know that rising gas/fuel prices control the
prices of everything we buy. Most are truck delivered.

Betsy

We do use trains. We deliver American cars made in Mexico or Canada.
Big, honkin gas guzzlers. My Expedition is now ten years old. There
is 67,000 original miles on it. I barely drive it, but it's all I
have. I could try to sell it, but what car on the market truly gets
good gas mileage? A Mini Cooper?


On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:00:00 -0600, sherwindu
wrote:

We ought to go back to using trains!

Sherwin D.

betsyb wrote:

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in
one hand, Starbucks in the other, totally worn out and
screaming,

"WOO HOO what a ride!"

BetsyB

"Harold" wrote in message
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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com


I am retired Teamster and know that rising gas/fuel prices control the
prices of everything we buy. Most are truck delivered.

Betsy

"Jangchub" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:00:00 -0600, sherwindu
wrote:

We ought to go back to using trains!

Sherwin D.

betsyb wrote:

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in
one hand, Starbucks in the other, totally worn out and
screaming,

"WOO HOO what a ride!"

BetsyB

"Harold" wrote in message
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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com


I am retired Teamster and know that rising gas/fuel prices control the
prices of everything we buy. Most are truck delivered.

Betsy


We do use trains. We deliver American cars made in Mexico or Canada.
Big, honkin gas guzzlers. My Expedition is now ten years old. There
is 67,000 original miles on it. I barely drive it, but it's all I
have. I could try to sell it, but what car on the market truly gets
good gas mileage? A Mini Cooper?


The reference was to freight costs, not car mileage. Shipping things by
truck has gotten a LOT more expensive over the past couple of years. The
less "things" on each truck, the more expensive each "thing" becomes.

On Mar 30, 9:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Jangchub" wrote in message

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:00:00 -0600, sherwindu
wrote:

We ought to go back to using trains!

Sherwin D.

betsyb wrote:

--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in
one hand, Starbucks in the other, totally worn out and
screaming,

"WOO HOO what a ride!"

BetsyB

"Harold" wrote in message
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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

I am retired Teamster and know that rising gas/fuel prices control the
prices of everything we buy. Most are truck delivered.

Betsy

We do use trains. We deliver American cars made in Mexico or Canada.
Big, honkin gas guzzlers. My Expedition is now ten years old. There
is 67,000 original miles on it. I barely drive it, but it's all I
have. I could try to sell it, but what car on the market truly gets
good gas mileage? A Mini Cooper?

The reference was to freight costs, not car mileage. Shipping things by
truck has gotten a LOT more expensive over the past couple of years. The
less "things" on each truck, the more expensive each "thing" becomes.

So what's your point?

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On Mar 29, 10:47 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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Garden soil prices escalate.

I have just returned from shopping for bagged garden soil for my
raised garden and found since last season, that not only have they
increased the price by 60 percent but they have reduced the size of
the bags by twenty five percent. The soil is made of ground-up
materials from old buildings that are torn down and allowed to
compost, lead based paints and all. The processors call the product
"black gold." I wonder if the inflation gurus take into
consideration
the reduction of the sizes of goods on top of the increased price
when
establishing the inflation rate?
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

You have a conflicting pair of ideas in what you wrote. First, you
said
"garden soil prices", which suggests that ALL garden soil has
increased
in
price. Then, you mentioned "black gold", which sounds like a brand
name.
Matter of fact, it *is* a brand name. I wonder if other brands have
NOT
increased in price and had their packages made smaller.

It might be worthwhile to hire a private detective for a day, to
assist
you
in finding stores which sell a different brand.

Thanks for your comments. I went to three mass merchandisers and the
prices have all increased. The phrase "black gold" came from the mouth
of a guy on TV describing the process of taking waste building
material and making it into compost. Last season I was able to buy one
cubic yard of soil for $24.00 but this year the prevailing price is
$48.00 for the same amount of stuff. I would say that such an increase
is quite significant and troubling.
Harold
www.raised-garden-bed.com

It sounds like a weird product, so I don't know why you'd buy it to begin
with. And, the main thing contributing to the price increases you've
mentioned is the cost of fuel for vehicles which deliver pretty much
everything. My company ships product by truck, and the per mile rate is
up
drastically over the past 18 months.

My only alternative is to buy it by the truck load which would give me
more than I can use and don't care to have a big pile of dirt in my
yard.

With every response, this gets more interesting. In the beginning, you
referred to bagged soil. Are you saying that where you live, there is no
source of a different brand of bagged soil? There are NO other sources of
BAGGED soil?

AND - this black gold stuff may contain lead and all sorts of other crap.
Were you planning on using it to grow things you plan to eat?

Why don't you go to another group if you want to stir up controversy