Portland Oregon area

Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

Soil is well drained and loamy, has 3/4 day sun.

Plant from sets?

What time of year?

Thanks.

"jJim McLaughlin" wrote in message
. ..
Portland Oregon area

Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

Soil is well drained and loamy, has 3/4 day sun.

Plant from sets?

What time of year?

Thanks.



Plant sets in the fall.

--
Travis in Shoreline Washington

Travis M. wrote:
"jJim McLaughlin" wrote in message
. ..

Portland Oregon area

Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

Soil is well drained and loamy, has 3/4 day sun.

Plant from sets?

What time of year?

Thanks.



Plant sets in the fall.

Thank you.

Add sulphur to the soil?

Its already pretty acid due to the centuries of fri**ing Douglas fir
needle fall.

Should have figured the sets in the fall. Its a bulb after all.

I've had real good luck with shallots in the same general garden area
so I think I ought to try the garlic, too.

Shallots and garlic are reasonably small and I use them in cooking, bu
not in huge quanities.

Onions wouldn't work. They take too much room and I use too many. I
wouldnt be able to grow enough
volume. The soil is too clayish, despite years of compost and sand
amendment. And I don't want to only
do onions.

| Portland Oregon area
| Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

| Plant sets in the fall.


If you miss the fall opportunity, early spring is OK although the
bulbs will be a bit smaller come harvest.

Alexander Miller, Vancouver Island; Zone 7-8ish?
Soggy winters, baked dry summers.
Shallow topsoil, blue clay beneath.
Using mostly raised beds

I would either order the garlic I wanted or buy some from the grocery store.
Break the cloves apart and separate them by size. Use the small ones and
plant the larger.

Find a bed that you will be able to keep up for years. Plant the cloves 4
inches apart with the pointed end up, in a row deep enough so you will have
1/2 inch of dirt on top. They grow in almost any soil. I raised it in
Arkansas (Acidic soil) and here now in Kansas (neutral soil). I prefer the
elephant garlic over the strong ones. I add fertilizer to the soil between
my harvest and the replanting of the next years crop. I use 10-10-10, and
do it sparingly. I like to water the crop every 5 or so days when we don't
get any rain.

I harvest mine when the tops start dying back (end of June to first of
August, depending upon the year), cure them (wash the dirt off, cut all but
6 to 8 inches of stem off, and lay them on the floor of my garage for 10 to
15 days), and then put them in the coolest room of the basement until
September. Then I take out a bunch of the largest, separate the cloves,
plant 100 of the biggest cloves and use or give away the smaller. It last
in my basement until well into the next summer if I don't use it or give it
away.

Dwayne


"jJim McLaughlin" wrote in message
. ..
Portland Oregon area

Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

Soil is well drained and loamy, has 3/4 day sun.

Plant from sets?

What time of year?

Thanks.

Dwayne wrote:

I would either order the garlic I wanted or buy
some from the grocery store.
Break the cloves apart and separate them by
size. Use the small ones and plant the larger.

Find a bed that you will be able to keep up for
years. Plant the cloves 4 inches apart with the
pointed end up, in a row deep enough so you will
have
1/2 inch of dirt on top. They grow in almost
any soil. I raised it in
Arkansas (Acidic soil) and here now in Kansas
(neutral soil). I prefer the
elephant garlic over the strong ones. I add
fertilizer to the soil between
my harvest and the replanting of the next years
crop. I use 10-10-10, and
do it sparingly. I like to water the crop every
5 or so days when we don't get any rain.

I harvest mine when the tops start dying back
(end of June to first of August, depending upon
the year), cure them (wash the dirt off, cut all
but 6 to 8 inches of stem off, and lay them on
the floor of my garage for 10 to 15 days), and
then put them in the coolest room of the
basement until
September. Then I take out a bunch of the
largest, separate the cloves,
plant 100 of the biggest cloves and use or give
away the smaller. It last in my basement until
well into the next summer if I don't use it or
give it away.

Dwayne
If you do not harvest them, will they come up
again next spring?

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:13:25 -0700, jJim McLaughlin
wrote:

Portland Oregon area

Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

Soil is well drained and loamy, has 3/4 day sun.
That's good. Give em some rotted cow manure, fish emulsion, organic
matter if you want strong plants.


Plant from sets?

That will work. I took apart a corm and planted each toe.

What time of year?
Not sure. Mine continue to come up Jan-June year after year then die
back in the summer heat (e.TN). In Ohio they grew more prolific,
liking a cooler climate. Yours should do well in a cool sunny
location.

Thanks.

In article ,
jJim McLaughlin wrote:

Travis M. wrote:
"jJim McLaughlin" wrote in message
. ..

Portland Oregon area

Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

Soil is well drained and loamy, has 3/4 day sun.

Plant from sets?

What time of year?

Thanks.



Plant sets in the fall.

Thank you.

Add sulphur to the soil?

Its already pretty acid due to the centuries of fri**ing Douglas fir
needle fall.

Should have figured the sets in the fall. Its a bulb after all.

I've had real good luck with shallots in the same general garden area
so I think I ought to try the garlic, too.

Shallots and garlic are reasonably small and I use them in cooking, bu
not in huge quanities.

Onions wouldn't work. They take too much room and I use too many. I
wouldnt be able to grow enough
volume. The soil is too clayish, despite years of compost and sand
amendment. And I don't want to only
do onions.

Look up Filaree Farms online. They sell all sorts of yummy
garlic and offer cultivation advice. They're a great company.
I'm a happy customer : )

Jan in Alaska

--
Bedouin proverb: If you have no troubles, buy a goat.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:09:09 -0500, "Dwayne" wrote:

I would either order the garlic I wanted or buy some from the grocery store.
Break the cloves apart and separate them by size. Use the small ones and
plant the larger.


You cannot tell what climate the grocery store garlics were raised in,
very likely it was China as most garlic comes from there these days.

There are plenty of reputable suppliers of various varieties of garlic
on line. Google garlic and pick whichever one fits your fancy.

John

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:39:47 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
wrote:

If you do not harvest them, will they come up
again next spring?

Yes but you will not be happy with the result. Each clove produces a
new plant which develops a head full of cloves. So if you leave a
head in the ground with 10 cloves in you will get 10 plants which will
each try to produce a new head. The proxomity of all these plants to
one another will prevent the development of any useable garlic.

Dig 'em.

John

wrote in message
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| Portland Oregon area
| Suddenly have an urge to grow garlic.

| Plant sets in the fall.


If you miss the fall opportunity, early spring is OK although the
bulbs will be a bit smaller come harvest.

Alexander Miller, Vancouver Island; Zone 7-8ish?
Soggy winters, baked dry summers.
Shallow topsoil, blue clay beneath.
Using mostly raised beds


You forgot the sig delimiter.
hyphen hyphen space enter.

--
Travis in Shoreline Washington

Here are bunch of garlics to peruse.

http://www.nicholsgardennursery.com/...LLSRFKE98ASQ9H
UGC563TJ4KLJAT6Q65

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ytx572

They are located in Oregon, USA.


Bill

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade
http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid
This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

Yes. If you plant them now they will come up but probably not develop into
cloves by harvest time. My Elephant garlic wont. It turns out to be one
big ball. The second summer they will split. If you wait until Sept to
plant the cloves, rather than now, they will be ready by next summer. If
you don't harvest all of them, the cloves will on the ones left in the
ground will make grow into more balls and split into cloves. The man who
gave me some of his garlic has a 30 ft row. He harvests and cures what he
needs and leaves the rest in the ground.

Dwayne


"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
. ..
Dwayne wrote:

I would either order the garlic I wanted or buy
some from the grocery store.
Break the cloves apart and separate them by
size. Use the small ones and plant the larger.

Find a bed that you will be able to keep up for
years. Plant the cloves 4 inches apart with the
pointed end up, in a row deep enough so you will
have
1/2 inch of dirt on top. They grow in almost
any soil. I raised it in
Arkansas (Acidic soil) and here now in Kansas
(neutral soil). I prefer the
elephant garlic over the strong ones. I add
fertilizer to the soil between
my harvest and the replanting of the next years
crop. I use 10-10-10, and
do it sparingly. I like to water the crop every
5 or so days when we don't get any rain.

I harvest mine when the tops start dying back
(end of June to first of August, depending upon
the year), cure them (wash the dirt off, cut all
but 6 to 8 inches of stem off, and lay them on
the floor of my garage for 10 to 15 days), and
then put them in the coolest room of the
basement until
September. Then I take out a bunch of the
largest, separate the cloves,
plant 100 of the biggest cloves and use or give
away the smaller. It last in my basement until
well into the next summer if I don't use it or
give it away.

Dwayne
If you do not harvest them, will they come up
again next spring?

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:34:13 GMT, "Travis M."
wrote:

|You forgot the sig delimiter.
|hyphen hyphen space enter.

Actually no, I didn't.

But when posting a follow-up I try to remember to delete whatever quoted thread
seems irrelevant, and leave only enough - in my judgement of course - to set or
clarify the context for my response. And of course, while highliting the parts
to delete, it's no problem to include any part of a signature I'd rather not
quote.

There are several good reasons to do this, including global bandwidth economy as
well as courtesy to - among others - those who may be stuck with slow &
expensive dial-up connections.

But I'm sure you know all this. Possibly you, yourself, sometimes forget. If so
would you like to be reminded? Maybe meantime you could post follow-ups to all
the other folks here who don't know (or forget) about this.

Now this is a gardening forum,
So can you contribute something about garlic to the garlic thread?

Or what do you know about, say, symphylans?

"Fom things that go bump in the night
And the signature police
Dear Lord,
Protect Us."

wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:34:13 GMT, "Travis M."
wrote:

|You forgot the sig delimiter.
|hyphen hyphen space enter.

Actually no, I didn't.

But when posting a follow-up I try to remember to delete whatever quoted thread
seems irrelevant, and leave only enough - in my judgement of course - to set or
clarify the context for my response. And of course, while highliting the parts
to delete, it's no problem to include any part of a signature I'd rather not
quote.

Adding a sig delimiter is a courtesy to any and all who may reply, often
as important as editing or trimming replies.

--
john mcwilliams