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Hi Bill,
How ironic it has become to me that we struck up a conversation on
aluminum.
Two weeks ago, the Peds doc did a allergy blood test on my son. he

has a
severe case of eczema as well as allergies. results in today - guess

what
one of his allergies are..............yep - right train of thought!
ALUMINUM!!!

alu min Ium. aluminIum.

rob


Rob, here in 'Merica we have our own special way of screwing up the
English language, no doubt about it;-)


I know, I just thought I'd pick a fight.

rob

Tomato - as in Tom r to
z - as in zed

Sorry! won't pick a fight with me - maybe someone else
though...............i got's other things t' worry about now! lol


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Hi Janet,

did your pharmacist get the E45 for you or did you get it elsewhere? I've
searched and talked with my pharm. this AM, and he doesn't know if he can
get it. I want to try the cream and shampoo that they have out, but i've
only found it in the UK. can you tell me of any place online that i might
could order it from that is US based?

Also:

I recieved an email from someone who said that i sounded like a know it all
on all my post on the garden groups. (someone who has not posted anything on
this subject!) They also said that i should quit posting when i didn't know
"jack" (they used another 4-letter word) about what i was posting. Anyway,
i ain't gonna let them "run" me out. however, if i did come off as a
know-it-all to you. I am deeply sorry - i did not mean to sound like that.
I was trying to shed a little more light on our situation, in case there was
more that you or others could suggest. surely didn't mean no harm! i hope
you haven't taken it that way!

Always willing to learn more............
Rae



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(Whack)
ALUMINUM!!!

alu min Ium. aluminIum.

rob


Rob, here in 'Merica we have our own special way of screwing up the
English language, no doubt about it;-)


I know, I just thought I'd pick a fight.

rob

Tomato - as in Tom r to
z - as in zed


Rob, no sense in making an unnecessary effort. We be 'Mericans. Sack and
Pillage is our middle name. What 'chew got that we wants? Them pesky
Canadians somehow got our water on their land but it is only a matter of
time before we take it back, quicker than you can say,"Bob's your
Uncle". You wouldn't have room for about 32,805,041 refugees, would you?
Of course it would go quicker if'n we had a leader with some smarts. You
may have heard about our present leader. He is about as sharp as a
bowling ball.

What you trying to say 'bout 'maters? Step up boy and stop mumbling. Tom
r 2 z? Don't understand. Pie r squared. I think but, that don't rightly
make much sense teither (or is it teether?). Now you getting me all
confused.

Anyway, let us know what you got and, when would be a good time to send
the stealth bombers to pick it up.

Uh, one question 'fore you go. When you catch a few zeds, doesn't it get
a might noisy?

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
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He still has the mattress from his crib - when i bought his crib I
made sure
it was one of those convertible types so we could save money in the
long run
there. the mattress a hypo-allergenic one with the vinyl covering.


One of the irritants to eczema, is sweat, and getting too warm,
especially at night. Vinyl and rubber near the skin promote sweat and
skin heating. Make sure you have a good layer of cotton (not polyester)
mattress padding between the vinyl and the pure cotton bottom sheet, to
wick away any sweat.

you know, i knew the part about the sweat - i mean I know how sweat makes it
worse, it does on myself. But i hadn't thought about the vinyl matress and
sweating from it - i do use a waterproof - hypo-allergenic mattress pad, but
i don't use it always - will start doing that. i think it's all cotton:
will have to check on that though.

I wash his, mine, and my daughters clothes all in baby detergent. I
figured that was as safe as it gets.


Not always. One of my son's allergens, was the UK's biggest and most
famous brand of baby
products at the time, (Johnstons) which is still marketed as gentle
and safe for the tenderest skin. "Baby" market products nearly all
contain perfume :-( to make babies smell nice, and a range of
petroleum-based emollients. I learned to avoid "baby" products like the
plague.



Never seen or heard of Filetti.


http://www.filetti.co.uk/filetti/about.cfm


thanks for the link - checking them out now

(Don't use any biological washing agents, on his clothes, towels or
bedding).
An extra cold rinse cycle in the machine after the normal wash, can
also help remove detergent traces.

i use dye & perfume free detergent - hadn't thought or previously been told
about the extra wash part. that makes a lot of sence - gonna start doing
that also. might have to wait til after the drought though....well's
starting to go dry!

Also gonna try getting the E45.
Don't remember hearing about that.


It's the very neutral water- base-cream used by UK pharmacists to make
up prescription ointments and salves. The cream itself is available over
the counter without prescription in every UK chemist shop )pharmacy. You
should be able to buy it from UK sources if not in the USA


You have all my sympathy. I know exactly the feeling of a desperate
mother of a sleepless, limb-thrashing child who is crying in pain and
irritation.. I had a red raw baby from the age of 3 months. People used
to look in his pram and recoil in horror. First task of the morning was
to soak the sheets off the baby where the blood and serum had glued him
to them in the night. But having said all that, I found the hard way,
that the very simplest treatments produce far more comfort and relief
than the many and complex prescribed ones we tried.

you should have seen me while i was pregnant with wyatt - oh my god! i just
wanted to hide in the closet and not let anyone see me. so bad on my scalp
that my hair started falling out. haven't had many break-out with eczema
myself since i gave birth to him. although i would rather have to have it
all myself than see him suffer from it like he does.

Another son's eczema (and behavioural outbursts) were triggered by
artificial food additives, especially food colourants in the
yellow/orange/red spectrum. I would strongly recommend a month's trial
of eliminating those from the family's diet; it means cooking from
scratch with raw ingredients, and a complete ban on all
manufactured/convenience foods especially coloured and artificially
flavoured drinks and sweets.

no soda's at all - i only let him have all natural juices and milk -
sometimes a bit of tea (decaff!). his only "junk-food" is potato chips.
already watch out for red dye food products. for some reason he can climb
walls after eating/drinking something with red food colouring in it! lol

Thanks so much for the ideas - you don't know how much i appreciate it!
Rae


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get this,
the detergent i use is the US version of your Filetti.

guess i'm alright in that department then!

rae




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"Rachael Simpson" wrote:

An extra cold rinse cycle in the machine after the normal wash, can
also help remove detergent traces.

i use dye & perfume free detergent - hadn't thought or previously been told
about the extra wash part. that makes a lot of sence - gonna start doing
that also. might have to wait til after the drought though....well's
starting to go dry!


Rachael, chemicals are more soluble in hot water than cold. Hot water is
best, warm is good, cold is better than nothing. Chemists rinse three
times and count to twenty when the dripping starts and that's for glass,
with cloth, spin dry and re-soak.

Good Luck,

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One of the irritants to eczema, is sweat, and getting too warm,
especially at night. Vinyl and rubber near the skin promote sweat and
skin heating. Make sure you have a good layer of cotton (not polyester)
mattress padding between the vinyl and the pure cotton bottom sheet, to
wick away any sweat.

you know, i knew the part about the sweat - i mean I know how sweat makes
it worse, it does on myself. But i hadn't thought about the vinyl matress
and sweating from it - i do use a waterproof - hypo-allergenic mattress
pad, but i don't use it always - will start doing that. i think it's all
cotton: will have to check on that though.


Racheal wool is a wonderful product for waterproofing but as Janet mentioned
should never be in contact with the skin of sensitive people. It is
wonderful though for warmth if wet and will act as a buffer between the
vinyl mattress and the sheet. It's even better if it's felted (such as an
old woollen blanket cut up to fit the mattress and then run thhrough a hto
wash then cold rinse a few times).


(Don't use any biological washing agents, on his clothes, towels or
bedding).
An extra cold rinse cycle in the machine after the normal wash, can
also help remove detergent traces.

i use dye & perfume free detergent - hadn't thought or previously been
told about the extra wash part. that makes a lot of sence - gonna start
doing that also. might have to wait til after the drought
though....well's starting to go dry!


Half a cup of vinegar (but a good quality naturally brewed one such as malt
vineger) added to the rinse cycle also gets rid of detergent residues and
shouldn't cause any allergy reaction.


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An extra cold rinse cycle in the machine after the normal wash, can
also help remove detergent traces.

i use dye & perfume free detergent - hadn't thought or previously been
told
about the extra wash part. that makes a lot of sence - gonna start doing
that also. might have to wait til after the drought though....well's
starting to go dry!


Rachael, chemicals are more soluble in hot water than cold. Hot water is
best, warm is good, cold is better than nothing. Chemists rinse three
times and count to twenty when the dripping starts and that's for glass,
with cloth, spin dry and re-soak.

Good Luck,

Billy
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thanks! but doesn't hot water make pure cottons shrink? or maybe i'm
mixing it up with another material.........

Rae


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"Billy Rose" wrote in message
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(Whack)
ALUMINUM!!!

alu min Ium. aluminIum.

rob

Rob, here in 'Merica we have our own special way of screwing up the
English language, no doubt about it;-)


I know, I just thought I'd pick a fight.

rob

Tomato - as in Tom r to
z - as in zed


Rob, no sense in making an unnecessary effort.


well, maybe not picking a fight, rather just being
mischiveous/aeveous/eveous (or however you spell it correctly).

rob

I don't catch zeds, I have a snooze.


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In article ,
"Rachael Simpson" wrote:

An extra cold rinse cycle in the machine after the normal wash, can
also help remove detergent traces.

i use dye & perfume free detergent - hadn't thought or previously been
told
about the extra wash part. that makes a lot of sence - gonna start doing
that also. might have to wait til after the drought though....well's
starting to go dry!


Rachael, chemicals are more soluble in hot water than cold. Hot water is
best, warm is good, cold is better than nothing. Chemists rinse three
times and count to twenty when the dripping starts and that's for glass,
with cloth, spin dry and re-soak.

Good Luck,

Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


thanks! but doesn't hot water make pure cottons shrink? or maybe i'm
mixing it up with another material.........

Rae


Your probably right about the cotton but the hot water is more effective
in removing any chemical residue.

- Bill
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:03:29 -0700, Billy Rose
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Apparently, high levels of aluminum are found in the cerebral cortex in
Alzheimer's patients. Aluminum doesn't migrate much but because it is a
metal, it will dissolve in the presence of acid (citric, ascorbic,
oxalic, ect.). Cooking instructions always tell you to do sauces with
acids in them in enamel pans and pots because iron or aluminum can
change the color and taste of the sauce.


Does perspiration contain enough acid to dissolve and allow the skin to
absorb aluminum from anti-perspirants?


Maybe.
http://www.aakp.org/aakp-library/Alu...tiperspirants/


I've been using a mineral salts stick for awhile, seems to work fine,
at least the cat is not trying to cover me up.


The other way not to get Alzheimer's is to not get old or, have
circulatory problems like high blood pressure, high triglycerides or,
high cholesterol.


I'd like to add to that Bill. One segment of the population is nearly
guaranteed to get Alzheimer's, some times rather early onset.....people
with Down's syndrome. Doctor's and neurologists often start people
with Down's syndrome on Aricept, sometimes at a young age. Namenda may
be added as the disease progresses.



A lot of it is hereditary but why push your luck. If you make too many
bad bets, one is sure to come in.

You sound like your young enough and, have time to make adjustment.

To your health,

- Billy
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Charlie

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What was your gardening weather like this year, cold, hot, sunny,
overcast?
Big storm is supposed to be hitting eastern Australia. Are you catching
any of it?
What do you do with your garden in the winter, cover crop, nothing?

- Billy
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