On Jul 20, 1:32?pm, Billy Rose wrote:

Don't they have leash laws in western New York?

Western NY encompasses a huge area and of many population densities...
depends on where. In cities, towns, and villages there are leash
laws... in rural boonies leash laws don't make sense. Contrary to
much public opinion, Noo Yawk is not all like NYC... NYS is mostly
very rural, in fact it's mostly wilderness. In rural and wilderness
areas you'd no more put a leash on a dog than on cows and sheep, on
deer and coyote. Where I live it's very rural but most folks with
dogs keep them on their own property... occasionaly a dog will wander,
as dogs do, but folks are no more annoyed at an occasional dog poop as
they are with poops from dozens and dozens of other animals... you'd
need to have a Phd in scatology to know which is from domestic dog.
If it bothered me that there're poops on my property I'd best move
into town.

"Sheldon" wrote in message
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On Jul 20, 1:32?pm, Billy Rose wrote:

Don't they have leash laws in western New York?

Western NY encompasses a huge area and of many population densities...
depends on where. In cities, towns, and villages there are leash
laws... in rural boonies leash laws don't make sense. Contrary to
much public opinion, Noo Yawk is not all like NYC... NYS is mostly
very rural, in fact it's mostly wilderness. In rural and wilderness
areas you'd no more put a leash on a dog than on cows and sheep, on
deer and coyote. Where I live it's very rural but most folks with
dogs keep them on their own property... occasionaly a dog will wander,
as dogs do, but folks are no more annoyed at an occasional dog poop as
they are with poops from dozens and dozens of other animals... you'd
need to have a Phd in scatology to know which is from domestic dog.
If it bothered me that there're poops on my property I'd best move
into town.


Yeah, but where you live, you can cap the dog and tell the neighbors you
shot a coyote that was harrassing your mail box.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:00:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Sheldon" wrote in message
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On Jul 19, 5:17?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"rachael simpson" wrote in message

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Sheldon wrote:
On Jul 18, 7:20?pm, Xoobee wrote:
I am...was...so very proud of my dwarf sunflowers this year.
I grew them from seed, and they ALL came up! All 40 of them!
Happy little sunflower faces...sigh....
Now there are none.
I found 'evidence' along the top of the wooden fence that surrounds
the yard, leading me to believe it was a nasty SQRL!

Evidence? What evidence do squirrels leave on a fence; paw prints,
DNA? I seriously doubt squirrels got your sunflowers, not if the
entire flower head is gone. And btw, because of their configuration
and how they grow sunflower seeds are essentially bird and squirrel
proof. I've watched squirrels and blue jays have conniptions trying
to find a way to get to my sunflowers, can't be done. I'd suggest
thinking about raccoons, they can easily scale most any fence and
they'd have no problem ripping off the entire flower heads and
carrying them off.

well your blue jays may have problems with it, but the turtle doves
here
love the sunflowers...........they scatter quite a few seeds, but they
get
the job done!

Same with the cardinals here

I don't believe yoose... unless what yoose call sunflowers ain't. No
bird on the planet can scavange a real sunflower while it's still on
the plant... just not a possibility. The sunflower head grows upside
down, and has a natural barrior all around the circumference that no
bird or squirrel can penetrate. I've been growing sunflowers for nigh
on 50 years, no bird or squirrel has ever gotten to my sunflower seeds
until I whack off the flower and allow them access.

I don't know what kind of wussy pansies yoose grow but these are
sunflowers:

http://i19.tinypic.com/4losnxj.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/6fqklmu.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4tsxam8.jpg



Whatever you say, Sheldon. My 7 foot tall sunflowers, grown from a packet of
seeds labeled "sunflowers", are not really sunflowers. And, the birds which
look look just like all other cardinals are actually cockatiels.

The birds empty/eat all of my sunflower heads before the end
of September. The finches (House and Gold), Nuthatch,
Woodpeckers can all eat from upside down just fine. I wonder
where Sheldon lives that he doesn't have any of these birds
around...

Some old picts of my sunflowers can be found he

http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/


--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:00:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Sheldon" wrote in message
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On Jul 19, 5:17?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"rachael simpson" wrote in message

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Sheldon wrote:
On Jul 18, 7:20?pm, Xoobee wrote:
I am...was...so very proud of my dwarf sunflowers this year.
I grew them from seed, and they ALL came up! All 40 of them!
Happy little sunflower faces...sigh....
Now there are none.
I found 'evidence' along the top of the wooden fence that surrounds
the yard, leading me to believe it was a nasty SQRL!

Evidence? What evidence do squirrels leave on a fence; paw prints,
DNA? I seriously doubt squirrels got your sunflowers, not if the
entire flower head is gone. And btw, because of their configuration
and how they grow sunflower seeds are essentially bird and squirrel
proof. I've watched squirrels and blue jays have conniptions trying
to find a way to get to my sunflowers, can't be done. I'd suggest
thinking about raccoons, they can easily scale most any fence and
they'd have no problem ripping off the entire flower heads and
carrying them off.

well your blue jays may have problems with it, but the turtle doves
here
love the sunflowers...........they scatter quite a few seeds, but
they
get
the job done!

Same with the cardinals here

I don't believe yoose... unless what yoose call sunflowers ain't. No
bird on the planet can scavange a real sunflower while it's still on
the plant... just not a possibility. The sunflower head grows upside
down, and has a natural barrior all around the circumference that no
bird or squirrel can penetrate. I've been growing sunflowers for nigh
on 50 years, no bird or squirrel has ever gotten to my sunflower seeds
until I whack off the flower and allow them access.

I don't know what kind of wussy pansies yoose grow but these are
sunflowers:

http://i19.tinypic.com/4losnxj.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/6fqklmu.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4tsxam8.jpg



Whatever you say, Sheldon. My 7 foot tall sunflowers, grown from a packet
of
seeds labeled "sunflowers", are not really sunflowers. And, the birds
which
look look just like all other cardinals are actually cockatiels.

The birds empty/eat all of my sunflower heads before the end
of September. The finches (House and Gold), Nuthatch,
Woodpeckers can all eat from upside down just fine. I wonder
where Sheldon lives that he doesn't have any of these birds
around...

He has these birds. He's just being contrary and claiming everyone else is
wrong.

In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Ann" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" expounded:


It's not hatred. It's realism. You probably don't much like mosquitoes,
and
you probably kill a few now and then when they affect you too closely.
There's no fundamental difference between a dog and a mosquito.

You're so immersed in your hatred you've lost all sense of proportion
or reason. I don't much like mosquitoes, but my dislike of them
doesn''t cause me to diagnose other people with ailments, that's for
sure....

Then, there's coprophilia, something which many dog owners are afflicted
with. Why they don't seek treatment is unexplainable.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a


Everybody is required to like dogs? Is that it? Some people find frogs
revolting. Some people totally freak out when they see a bee, even if they
are not allergic.

Why do you think dogs are so special?

Uh, I thought we were talking about dog caca on your lawn or sidewalk.
You seem to be talkin' a doggie holocaust. Tell me it ain't so Joe.
--
Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

On Jul 20, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Leon Fisk" wrote in message

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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:00:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Sheldon" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Jul 19, 5:17?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"rachael simpson" wrote in message

...

Sheldon wrote:
On Jul 18, 7:20?pm, Xoobee wrote:
I am...was...so very proud of my dwarf sunflowers this year.
I grew them from seed, and they ALL came up! All 40 of them!
Happy little sunflower faces...sigh....
Now there are none.
I found 'evidence' along the top of the wooden fence that surrounds
the yard, leading me to believe it was a nasty SQRL!

Evidence? What evidence do squirrels leave on a fence; paw prints,
DNA? I seriously doubt squirrels got your sunflowers, not if the
entire flower head is gone. And btw, because of their configuration
and how they grow sunflower seeds are essentially bird and squirrel
proof. I've watched squirrels and blue jays have conniptions trying
to find a way to get to my sunflowers, can't be done. I'd suggest
thinking about raccoons, they can easily scale most any fence and
they'd have no problem ripping off the entire flower heads and
carrying them off.

well your blue jays may have problems with it, but the turtle doves
here
love the sunflowers...........they scatter quite a few seeds, but
they
get
the job done!

Same with the cardinals here

I don't believe yoose... unless what yoose call sunflowers ain't. No
bird on the planet can scavange a real sunflower while it's still on
the plant... just not a possibility. The sunflower head grows upside
down, and has a natural barrior all around the circumference that no
bird or squirrel can penetrate. I've been growing sunflowers for nigh
on 50 years, no bird or squirrel has ever gotten to my sunflower seeds
until I whack off the flower and allow them access.

I don't know what kind of wussy pansies yoose grow but these are
sunflowers:

http://i19.tinypic.com/4losnxj.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/6fqklmu.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4tsxam8.jpg

Whatever you say, Sheldon. My 7 foot tall sunflowers, grown from a packet
of
seeds labeled "sunflowers", are not really sunflowers. And, the birds
which
look look just like all other cardinals are actually cockatiels.

The birds empty/eat all of my sunflower heads before the end
of September. The finches (House and Gold), Nuthatch,
Woodpeckers can all eat from upside down just fine. I wonder
where Sheldon lives that he doesn't have any of these birds
around...

He has these birds. He's just being contrary and claiming everyone else is
wrong.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

isn't that the norm?

Billy Rose expounded:


Uh, I thought we were talking about dog caca on your lawn or sidewalk.
You seem to be talkin' a doggie holocaust. Tell me it ain't so Joe.

Oh, it's true, he's rabid about his hatred of all things canine.
Relentlessly rabid. I'm done playing with him.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

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raeannsimpson wrote:

On Jul 20, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Leon Fisk" wrote in message

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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:00:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Sheldon" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Jul 19, 5:17?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"rachael simpson" wrote in message

...

Sheldon wrote:
On Jul 18, 7:20?pm, Xoobee wrote:
I am...was...so very proud of my dwarf sunflowers this year.
I grew them from seed, and they ALL came up! All 40 of them!
Happy little sunflower faces...sigh....
Now there are none.
I found 'evidence' along the top of the wooden fence that surrounds
the yard, leading me to believe it was a nasty SQRL!

Evidence? What evidence do squirrels leave on a fence; paw prints,
DNA? I seriously doubt squirrels got your sunflowers, not if the
entire flower head is gone. And btw, because of their configuration
and how they grow sunflower seeds are essentially bird and squirrel
proof. I've watched squirrels and blue jays have conniptions trying
to find a way to get to my sunflowers, can't be done. I'd suggest
thinking about raccoons, they can easily scale most any fence and
they'd have no problem ripping off the entire flower heads and
carrying them off.

well your blue jays may have problems with it, but the turtle doves
here
love the sunflowers...........they scatter quite a few seeds, but
they
get
the job done!

Same with the cardinals here

I don't believe yoose... unless what yoose call sunflowers ain't. No
bird on the planet can scavange a real sunflower while it's still on
the plant... just not a possibility. The sunflower head grows upside
down, and has a natural barrior all around the circumference that no
bird or squirrel can penetrate. I've been growing sunflowers for nigh
on 50 years, no bird or squirrel has ever gotten to my sunflower seeds
until I whack off the flower and allow them access.

I don't know what kind of wussy pansies yoose grow but these are
sunflowers:

http://i19.tinypic.com/4losnxj.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/6fqklmu.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4tsxam8.jpg

Whatever you say, Sheldon. My 7 foot tall sunflowers, grown from a packet
of
seeds labeled "sunflowers", are not really sunflowers. And, the birds
which
look look just like all other cardinals are actually cockatiels.

The birds empty/eat all of my sunflower heads before the end
of September. The finches (House and Gold), Nuthatch,
Woodpeckers can all eat from upside down just fine. I wonder
where Sheldon lives that he doesn't have any of these birds
around...

He has these birds. He's just being contrary and claiming everyone else is
wrong.


isn't that the norm?

The Sheldon is certifiable.
--
Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

Squirrels will eat right through those mesh bags; they know how to
destroy just about anything. I found old nylon stocking stretched
over the sunflowers will deter the birds but as far as squirrels I use
a Havahart trap regularly and make regular "deposits" on the other
side of town.

Ask everyone you know (including yourself) to save those mesh bags that
onions come in. Put them over the developing flowers and tie with any
non-plastic string. Ugly, but they work.

"ctlady" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ask everyone you know (including yourself) to save those mesh bags that
onions come in. Put them over the developing flowers and tie with any
non-plastic string. Ugly, but they work.




Squirrels will eat right through those mesh bags; they know how to
destroy just about anything. I found old nylon stocking stretched
over the sunflowers will deter the birds but as far as squirrels I use
a Havahart trap regularly and make regular "deposits" on the other
side of town.


That hasn't been my experience, but things can happen somewhere else that
don't happen here. I read that somewhere.

"Ann" wrote in message
...
Billy Rose expounded:


Uh, I thought we were talking about dog caca on your lawn or sidewalk.
You seem to be talkin' a doggie holocaust. Tell me it ain't so Joe.

Oh, it's true, he's rabid about his hatred of all things canine.
Relentlessly rabid. I'm done playing with him.
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a


I'll bet you're not.

In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"ctlady" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ask everyone you know (including yourself) to save those mesh bags that
onions come in. Put them over the developing flowers and tie with any
non-plastic string. Ugly, but they work.




Squirrels will eat right through those mesh bags; they know how to
destroy just about anything. I found old nylon stocking stretched
over the sunflowers will deter the birds but as far as squirrels I use
a Havahart trap regularly and make regular "deposits" on the other
side of town.


That hasn't been my experience, but things can happen somewhere else that
don't happen here. I read that somewhere.

So which one are you? Walter Matthau or Jack Lemon?
--
Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

"Billy Rose" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"ctlady" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ask everyone you know (including yourself) to save those mesh bags
that
onions come in. Put them over the developing flowers and tie with any
non-plastic string. Ugly, but they work.




Squirrels will eat right through those mesh bags; they know how to
destroy just about anything. I found old nylon stocking stretched
over the sunflowers will deter the birds but as far as squirrels I use
a Havahart trap regularly and make regular "deposits" on the other
side of town.


That hasn't been my experience, but things can happen somewhere else that
don't happen here. I read that somewhere.

So which one are you? Walter Matthau or Jack Lemon?
--
Billy


Did one of them steal my line?

Charlie wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:02:19 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Ann" wrote in message
. ..
Billy Rose expounded:


Uh, I thought we were talking about dog caca on your lawn or sidewalk.
You seem to be talkin' a doggie holocaust. Tell me it ain't so Joe.

Oh, it's true, he's rabid about his hatred of all things canine.
Relentlessly rabid. I'm done playing with him.
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a


I'll bet you're not.

Yeah, you are kinda of a loveable old grouch. ;-)



I am. Sometimes, I paint a big red dot on dogs so when they're running, it's
easier for me to sight in on the heart shot. I ***always*** use non-toxic
paint for this, for the dog's benefit.

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:12:16 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


Then, there's coprophilia, something which many dog owners are afflicted
with. Why they don't seek treatment is unexplainable.


????????????

I certainly have seen poo-eating dogs, but poo-eating humans?

What are you on about with *this*, Oscar? Ya didn't change subjects,
mid-thought did ya'? I am sure there are other groups related to
*that* discussion, butt I don't want to hear about it, thank you very
much!

Charlie

Don't forget to "Fart for Freedom".
Face away from White House and raise a big stink.
--
Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/