I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?

Ook wrote:
I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?



Here (south-east NC) we have been known to plant as late as the end of
Aug, first part of Sept, for our fall/winter harvest. Of course,
normally it doesn't drop below freezing (or even get to freezing temps)
until mid-Dec.

Usually, we plant our fall crops (peas, peas, and more peas & some
cabbage) whenever the summer squash & cukes play-out. (till them in and
replant in those areas) Collards & turnips are usually our winter crop.
We have re-planted potatoes in Aug last year (not sure what part, that
part of the year was a blur for me, was caring for my grandpa then), but
they didn't fair as well as spring crop potatoes did.

Of course, you never really know til you try it, i guess....

On Jul 27, 6:15 pm, "Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at
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I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?


Ook
If I recall, the Willametter Valley is hills/valleys?
So there is the microclimate influence: south and west slopes vs
east and north slopes and so on. If you could locate your local
Cooperative Extension Service, they could give you specific
information.
Emilie

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On Jul 27, 6:15 pm, "Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at
zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote:
I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?


Ook
If I recall, the Willametter Valley is hills/valleys?
So there is the microclimate influence: south and west slopes vs
east and north slopes and so on. If you could locate your local
Cooperative Extension Service, they could give you specific
information.
Emilie

You mean like Oregon State University
Corvallis, Oregon 97331-4501
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/cat...ml/pnw/pnw548/ ?
--
Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:15:38 -0700, Ook Ook wrote:
I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gar...lendar/#august
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/cat...ml/pnw/pnw548/

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?

Got a greenhouse for them?

On Jul 27, 9:15 pm, "Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at
zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote:
I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?

Last year I planted cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage and collards in mid
September and the garden was a great success mostly from the aspect
that there was no insect damage. I was harvesting right through the
winter by adding a cloche over them if a hard freeze was expected.
Interestingly, I have one collard plant and one cabbage that came up
on their own this spring and as expected both became riddled by worm
holes. But the latest batch of leaves are remaining insect free which
leads me to assume that now would be a good time to begin my winter
garden. Just one problem, my summer vegetables are producing and I
don't wish to pull them up and replant with the winter varieties. I
have decided however to add another raised garden in order to begin my
winter garden.
Cheers,
Johnny
www.greatgardens.org

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On Jul 27, 9:15 pm, "Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at
zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote:
I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few
root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of
Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?

Last year I planted cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage and collards in mid
September and the garden was a great success mostly from the aspect
that there was no insect damage. I was harvesting right through the
winter by adding a cloche over them if a hard freeze was expected.
Interestingly, I have one collard plant and one cabbage that came up
on their own this spring and as expected both became riddled by worm
holes. But the latest batch of leaves are remaining insect free which
leads me to assume that now would be a good time to begin my winter
garden. Just one problem, my summer vegetables are producing and I
don't wish to pull them up and replant with the winter varieties. I
have decided however to add another raised garden in order to begin my
winter garden.
Cheers,
Johnny
www.greatgardens.org


That is the problem I have. No room for fall crops. Tomatillos are six feet
high (3-4 feet tall my arse!) and produce until frost, corn won't be out for
another month (maybe I'll start cabbages in flats and move into garden when
corn is gone?). Squash and cukes and tomatoes produce until frost, etc.
Peppers, eggplants....good until frost. Dang...everything produces gonzo
bonkers until the frost hits. How large were your cabbage heads? How well
did they develop in the cold weather?

On Jul 28, 4:46 pm, "Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at
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On Jul 27, 9:15 pm, "Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at
zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote:
I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few
root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of
Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?

Last year I planted cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage and collards in mid
September and the garden was a great success mostly from the aspect
that there was no insect damage. I was harvesting right through the
winter by adding a cloche over them if a hard freeze was expected.
Interestingly, I have one collard plant and one cabbage that came up
on their own this spring and as expected both became riddled by worm
holes. But the latest batch of leaves are remaining insect free which
leads me to assume that now would be a good time to begin my winter
garden. Just one problem, my summer vegetables are producing and I
don't wish to pull them up and replant with the winter varieties. I
have decided however to add another raised garden in order to begin my
winter garden.
Cheers,
Johnny
www.greatgardens.org

That is the problem I have. No room for fall crops. Tomatillos are six feet
high (3-4 feet tall my arse!) and produce until frost, corn won't be out for
another month (maybe I'll start cabbages in flats and move into garden when
corn is gone?). Squash and cukes and tomatoes produce until frost, etc.
Peppers, eggplants....good until frost. Dang...everything produces gonzo
bonkers until the frost hits. How large were your cabbage heads? How well
did they develop in the cold weather?

Please look at the photos at http://www.raised-garden-bed.com/Chapt7.html
and you will see the size of the cauliflowers and cabbage. Both were
the tastiest I have ever eaten.
I fertilize exclusively with turkey litter that is sold for
fertilizing golf courses. I have five raised gardens and plan to add
two eight footers within the month.
Cheers,
Johnny

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the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote:

I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root
veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem
Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only
info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a
big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?

And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter
crop?

If you know any Old Believers to talk to, ask them. They'll know.

The village next door to our ranch is OB's who came from the W. Valley
(by way of China, Turkey, Brazil, etc.). When the gals in the village
plant their spuds & cabbage, I plant.

Before the Russians moved here, all of the homestead women said you
couldn't grow raspberries here, because our elevation is too high.
The Russians moved in. They all planted huge sections of their yards
to raspberries. The plants made huge crops. Who knew? Now everyone
grows raspberries : )

Jan, near Vosnesenka, Alaska