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Effective method to prevent emerald ash borer
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You focus on degrees more than you focus on the understanding of trees and there associates. If you are certified, who certified the person that certified you? repeat to Joe as well: Ok it goes like this. Don says he's a forester. I ask him to define a forest, to him. Me with my eny-bitty little 3.5 day work shops was able to read data and write a page on what logging is to me, based on published data. With your longer term education maybe you could define what logging is to you (Don Staples). Please list page number and paragraph where data you mention can be found. Training with out education makes robots. Education without training makes? I think you are really a tree farmer who needs help managing trees on tree farms. Big difference from a true forester. Forest do not require that they be logged for trees and their associates. I.e., reflecting on how I define logging. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/ And can you make me a copy of your references so I can read them. I will do the same for you if you like. Tree farmers could place logs as nurse logs in the woods when you take one out. A logger friend of mine built a unique machine for moving logs back and forth in a tree farm. We have taken trees into the woods and brought trees out with little impact as a result of this unique design. http://home.ccil.org/~logbuyer/ We use logs from tree take downs that we do as a service. I will tell you that I have met some very fine people who are loggers in the edi-bitty 3.5 day workshops. Where is your resume Don Staples? We are doing some reforestation projects by bringing in some ecoart nurse logs. We have one more large oak to bing in and then we will selectively place many small diameter logs. This project will consist of planting in on and around the ecoart nurse logs thus increasing the health of the mini forest (nature preserve) by means of mentioned data he http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...nce/index.html This is the type of forestry I do. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/temp4/ Let me tell you that those 3.5 day workshops really add up. And yes, I am a want a be forester. To have a regular job as someone who cared for the vitality of the trees and their associates of a forest based on tree biology as defined in my dictionary. I list my definition of a forest in my dictionary. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/F/index.html I listed what I mean when I say tree biology he http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/index.html I do not like noise. - - Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. "Joe" wrote in message news:giKvi.3371$r14.2381@trndny06... John, have you or have not taken COLLEGE LEVEL COURSES on biology, trees? Any college level courses in natural resource departments? If you've taken several short courses (a few days each) on arborist subjects- and you have a lot of experience doing practical arborist work- that's real nice- but, in most parts of the country- you need a college degree plus experience to practice the arborist profession- at least a 2 year degree in most states. You can learn some good stuff in a few days- but calling yourself a TREE BIOLOGIST is overdoing it. A biologist is usually someone with at least a masters degree in biology from an accredited university. If you stick to your actual credentials, and stop exaggerating your knowledge and ability- perhaps Don Staples will get off your back, otherwise he won't. Joe "symplastless" wrote in message . .. What arborist societies are you a member of, Keslick? ISA? I am a member of The Allegheny Defense Project. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ I find their (young people) cause to be just and honest. I do not care for the way people try to misguide the younger generation out of the ignorance of tree biology. That is why I ask you to define yourself. Are you a biostitute Don Staples? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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Not only do I have a degree- I've been practicing forestry since 1973. I
currently manage about 15,000 acres in central New England and have walked on many other thousands of acres all over the country- most of the major national parks- including several backpack trips to the bottom of the Grand Canyon, and other wilderness areas. What is logging? Most of it SUCKS - with forests being RAPED by rapacious loggers to make an excessive profit for themselves and the wood industry- I don't defend RAW LOGGING. That's not what forestry is- real foresters don't do logging- they DO SILVICULTURE- look it up- and, they understand the LONG TERM ECONOMICS OF TREES AND FORESTS. Many people in the forestry business are indeed nothing but tree farmers, many are total assholes just procuring wood for their mill boss- real foresters don't defend those guys. Real foresters do indeed make use of silvicultural activity as part of their forest mgt.- over a long time frame. It's often not about trees to cut to sell- it's often about removing the less desirable trees to enhance the better trees. And, yes, it's good that many forests are not logged- they are in parks and reserves- and it's just fine that some people don't want to log their forests- but some do. Joe "symplastless" wrote in message . .. Joe You focus on degrees more than you focus on the understanding of trees and there associates. If you are certified, who certified the person that certified you? repeat to Joe as well: Ok it goes like this. Don says he's a forester. I ask him to define a forest, to him. Me with my eny-bitty little 3.5 day work shops was able to read data and write a page on what logging is to me, based on published data. With your longer term education maybe you could define what logging is to you (Don Staples). Please list page number and paragraph where data you mention can be found. Training with out education makes robots. Education without training makes? I think you are really a tree farmer who needs help managing trees on tree farms. Big difference from a true forester. Forest do not require that they be logged for trees and their associates. I.e., reflecting on how I define logging. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/ And can you make me a copy of your references so I can read them. I will do the same for you if you like. Tree farmers could place logs as nurse logs in the woods when you take one out. A logger friend of mine built a unique machine for moving logs back and forth in a tree farm. We have taken trees into the woods and brought trees out with little impact as a result of this unique design. http://home.ccil.org/~logbuyer/ We use logs from tree take downs that we do as a service. I will tell you that I have met some very fine people who are loggers in the edi-bitty 3.5 day workshops. Where is your resume Don Staples? We are doing some reforestation projects by bringing in some ecoart nurse logs. We have one more large oak to bing in and then we will selectively place many small diameter logs. This project will consist of planting in on and around the ecoart nurse logs thus increasing the health of the mini forest (nature preserve) by means of mentioned data he http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...nce/index.html This is the type of forestry I do. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/temp4/ Let me tell you that those 3.5 day workshops really add up. And yes, I am a want a be forester. To have a regular job as someone who cared for the vitality of the trees and their associates of a forest based on tree biology as defined in my dictionary. I list my definition of a forest in my dictionary. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/F/index.html I listed what I mean when I say tree biology he http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/index.html I do not like noise. - - Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. "Joe" wrote in message news:giKvi.3371$r14.2381@trndny06... John, have you or have not taken COLLEGE LEVEL COURSES on biology, trees? Any college level courses in natural resource departments? If you've taken several short courses (a few days each) on arborist subjects- and you have a lot of experience doing practical arborist work- that's real nice- but, in most parts of the country- you need a college degree plus experience to practice the arborist profession- at least a 2 year degree in most states. You can learn some good stuff in a few days- but calling yourself a TREE BIOLOGIST is overdoing it. A biologist is usually someone with at least a masters degree in biology from an accredited university. If you stick to your actual credentials, and stop exaggerating your knowledge and ability- perhaps Don Staples will get off your back, otherwise he won't. Joe "symplastless" wrote in message . .. What arborist societies are you a member of, Keslick? ISA? I am a member of The Allegheny Defense Project. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ I find their (young people) cause to be just and honest. I do not care for the way people try to misguide the younger generation out of the ignorance of tree biology. That is why I ask you to define yourself. Are you a biostitute Don Staples? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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Effective method to prevent emerald ash borer
You say you are a tree biologist. Here is your definition of Tree Biology.
Tree Biology is the science that brings together anatomy, physiology, genetics, evolution, ecology, and all other disciplines that focus on the life of a tree as a system and how death brings healthier life. So, Tell us, Tree Biologist, where you studied anatomy, physiology, genetics, evolution, ecology, dendrology, silvaculture, oh, wait, you didn't. Do not trust a "tree biologist" who has never studied biology. |
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Effective method to prevent emerald ash borer
In tree biology workshops. which your chair was empty. Where was ya? Out
cutting the wood out of the once fertile forest? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. "D. Staples" wrote in message ... You say you are a tree biologist. Here is your definition of Tree Biology. Tree Biology is the science that brings together anatomy, physiology, genetics, evolution, ecology, and all other disciplines that focus on the life of a tree as a system and how death brings healthier life. So, Tell us, Tree Biologist, where you studied anatomy, physiology, genetics, evolution, ecology, dendrology, silvaculture, oh, wait, you didn't. Do not trust a "tree biologist" who has never studied biology. |
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Effective method to prevent emerald ash borer
"symplastless" wrote in message . .. In tree biology workshops. which your chair was empty. Where was ya? Out cutting the wood out of the once fertile forest? You seem to be a typical dumb ass, who thinks all foresters do is cut wood. Tell me, "tree biologist" do you work in virgin forests, or in the forests (all east of the Mississippi) that have been created through forestry? |
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Effective method to prevent emerald ash borer
Please define what you mean when you say "forest". In other words when you
say forest, what do you mean? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. "D. Staples" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message . .. In tree biology workshops. which your chair was empty. Where was ya? Out cutting the wood out of the once fertile forest? You seem to be a typical dumb ass, who thinks all foresters do is cut wood. Tell me, "tree biologist" do you work in virgin forests, or in the forests (all east of the Mississippi) that have been created through forestry? |
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